It's very easy to have a civil discussion about any detectors pros and cons.

[Critterhunter]

Its definatly NOT a vast improvement over the GTI series! Its different but not better. What are you smokin? You probally never used them if you think the Propointer is Garretts best.

As far as the high freq...we Garrett users have been asking for it on some new releases of their machines besides the Scorpion, for a long time. If you dont like it, dont buy it.

Alan

So much for "keeping it civil". I have used the GTI series and put them through extensive testing. Namely, the depth was decent (but not spactacular), but at fringe detection depth the sweet spot on the coil was VERY tight. Discriminating NOTHING out and yet at fringe depth if I moved the coil even slightly off target it was gone. Never seen a machine with that picky of a sweet spot at depth. Not even a trashy junk signal to indicate to me that I should re-position the coil to obtain the best target ID. Vanished like a ghost at fringe depth if I was off by a hair. I did NOT like that. Talk about having to overlap your sweeps. Try by a inch at a time if you want to scan with the edge of the detection field.

Also, I remember when the GTI series came out. They hooped and hollored about the great technological break through of sizing ability on targets. Too bad they didn't mention that Whites had beat them to that with the flowing sizing display of the QXT. The XLT uses a different type of bars than the QXT. The QXT had a flowing/scrolling bar graph at the bottom of the screen that would both indicate target intensity (by height) and target size. 2 bars for a coin at normal sweep speed. 3 bars for a larger screw cap or something like a silver dollar. More for pop cans and such. Very versatile, and much more so than the sizing slots of the GTI series. I could trace the outline and shape of the target by watching the flowing sizing display as I went. Can't tell you how many times that helped find multiple targets. Sure, sound is a good way to trace and outline stuff, but there were times when I couldn't hear things that the sizing bars would tell me. I'd rather have that than a fixed "SIZE A GOES INTO SLOT B" type of static function on the GTI, if you know what I mean.

Regardless of all the above, I've seen better depth than a GTI on much more inexpensive machines. There were a few other things I didn't care for but I'm sure that's more than enough for you tell bash me on.

PS- I tried to stay civil despite your personal remark about me smoking anything, but I will "attack" detectors (not people)...I Pro Pointer on a stick would be intense competition for some brands and models, not just certain Garretts. I love that pin pointer.

 

[Pyledriver]

Thanks for you post Synthnut! I've never seen that one and the related explanation you gave. That will give me something to try come November!

 

[bearkat4160]

You correct about the GTI's getting less depth, However I have only noticed that in Disc mode (I know ways around it though ~crank to 90-95% power~)...the All Metal Mode is rare that I have found something that is as deep as the 2500's all metal, including Minelabs. Only thing I have found that is deeper is my PI's.

Never heard of those sizing features on the Whites. I do know they have that in the V3, or something similar. I still like the sizing of the Garrett's. It is clean, simple and powerful. Very uncomplicated system, Whites is just like using Windows compared to Mac...UNNECESSARILY COMPLICATED!

Alan

 

[DirtDiggerDaveinMD]

You correct about the GTI's getting less depth, However I have only noticed that in Disc mode (I know ways around it though ~crank to 90-95% power~)...the All Metal Mode is rare that I have found something that is as deep as the 2500's all metal, including Minelabs. Only thing I have found that is deeper is my PI's.

Never heard of those sizing features on the Whites. I do know they have that in the V3, or something similar. I still like the sizing of the Garrett's. It is clean, simple and powerful. Very uncomplicated system, Whites is just like using Windows compared to Mac...UNNECESSARILY COMPLICATED!

Alan

What is it about White's machines that you find so complicated?

 

[bearkat4160]

Well just look at the V3...man, to many things to adjust, to many programs, too much stuff to look at while detecting. Garrett has the same resuts with simplicity.

That said, Whites machine are not crap, and perform well. I prefer Garrett. I have used several Whites like the MXT.....It had such an aggressive ground tracking while prospecting in California that my GTI 2500 barely could match in severe ground. But I still found the gold, hahaha. Oh yeh!

Alan