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Is this a counterfeit Quarter???

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GoGoGopher

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Got this quarter in change at a local deli...Notice the edge of the left coin...it looks like 2 pieces glued to a copper wafer in the middle. It is a 1965 quarter. The quarter on the left is a 1997 quarter...Was this a minting mistake? Has the quarter been pressed (flattened), or is it guenuinely fake? Sorry for the poor pic quality...I had the camera on a tripod, but it does not take good closeups...

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HH,
 
I had a clad half dollar delaminate also. It was about that vintage, so I think that when Uncle Sam started using that technology, it was an iffy proposition. I doubt it is counterfeit.

Mark
Elite 2200
 
thank it's ok i found one like that a couple months back look weird the copper core was a lot smaller than the silver i put it in the coin star machine with the beat up zinc pennies LOL
 
Well gogogopher,, I guess I lied to you,, my better half just informed me my quarter did not go Thu the coin star she took it out of the return slot,, here's some pictures of my it's a 1984 P what year was yours? Not very good pictures , I just got the camera a few days ago an haven't figured out how to use the Marco, by the the way paid for most of the camera with the booty finds from this year

Glad we have spell ck on here LOL
 
on the funny quarter's,, I decided to ck the weight on my quarter,, it weighted 5.0 grams then I checked about 10 other quarters, they all weighted in at 5.6 to 5.8 grams, most were at 5.7 grams

seems to be a little short,, hope somebody can tell us more about these odd quarters there's probably more of them out there some place. :confused:

One more thing odd about it! The copper in the center is smaller than the silver , I can put my finger nail between the two silver sides,, an lookig at it with a magnify glass the silver is only crimped on mostley on the tail side of the coin and the marks don't line up with the crimp marks on the copper core, now did thew get the crimps marks on the copper core with it being smaller than the silver sides,,

I than mabe we should put our quarters up on Ebay, maybe we can get ritch :rofl:
 
Yours looks exactly like mine...Mine was a 1965...I was wondering the same thing...is the copper core punched before the clad is added? it must be for it to have the ridges and be smaller than the top and bottom...Like I said, looks like someone super glued the top and bottom to a copper disc...:wacko:

HH,
 
Yeah...If I was Money I would be afraid too...don't have much fun when you spend all your time in the registers...They want to be in a nice warm bank vault...:surrender:

HH,
 
The laminateing process is similar to explosive laminating. This item was given a short powder charge......

Their coming to take it away Ha Ha
to the funny farm the happy home where all the cracked up quarters go.....


You might say it's a mint mistake. Coinage like that ususally has a nominal increased value...
 
edjcox - I would like to know more about explosive laminating

TABAGO - I would like to know more about "booty finds"

I guess you could put a cash value on "booty".
 
Hey GoGoGopher and Tabago.I think you coins are a victims of post mint damage.Have a Look at these coins and thread and see if it matches you're coin.
http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=52199
 
Very interesting...makes sense...the Acid would eat the copper faster than the clad...Now you see why you do not want to use harsh chemicals to clean your finds...
Hey!!! I know...I got this from a Deli...It is a New Deli Quarter...:hot:

HH,
 
ya! after looking at that page it makes since, my quarter looks a little pitted on the face side,, now here's the BUT if acid ate away the copper, why is the crimp marks on the copper still sharp and the silver crimp marks are almost gone? the silver over laps the copper core about the thickness of a sheet of paper, if acid cased this I would think the crimp marks on the core would be gone,, Any way it's ugly like me so I guess I will keep it LOL
 
WELL THIS IS OFF TOPIC ,, BUT HERE'S A LINK WE CAN ALL HAVE SOME FUN WITH
MAKE YOUR OWN SIGN'S LIKE ABOVE

http://www.says-it.com/
 
Read these

http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/4292377/description.html

http://www.dynamicmaterials.com/data/brochures/1-%20Young%20Paper%20on%20EXW%20History.pdf

http://books.google.com/books?id=7zQF2wmgnncC&pg=PA4&lpg=PA4&dq=explosive+lamination+of+coins&source=bl&ots=uMtM8ss3d7&sig=QHyao8rifKl353WbIwDeySgY4m0&hl=en&ei=Y8qlSuWQK6eM8Qbg1ZnpDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Will give you an idea as to how these laminated coins are produced. The US mint is vagues on the actual process as it portects it's coinage production methodology.
 
It looks to me that it is a folding trick quarter that you buy at a majic store. The grove would conseal a rubber band to hold it together.
 
Looks to me like corrosive damage. Nickle is one of the metals that make stainless steel corrosion resistant.
Now in mfg. we use methods that will evenly erode a part so that its dimensional stability will be intact while at the same time deburr and polish it.
Keeping that in mind if a coin sat in the ground in a corrosive area, acidic soils, fertilizers and such, the copper would be eroded faster then the nickle based clad outer layer. I would think it could happen in a fashion that would eat the high and low spots of the serrations evenly so that even if the copper was smaller in diameter it could still have some serration detail left.

HH
Jeff
 
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