basstrackerman
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Wow that looks like crap! quality workmanship was obviously not high on the list.
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Is now the time to purchase an MX-Sport ?
- Thread starter JASONSPAZ1
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ChuckVT
Active member
Thank you for the information, Tom. I have a new MX Sport on the way! I started this hobby back in 1968 and just love White's machines. Believe me, I have used ALL makes and almost all models out there. and liked so many of them, but I always come home to Sweet Home! My first "real" discriminating detector was a White's Coinmaster 4Db, and that got me off and running!
WaterHound
Member
Well I'M not impressed! with my new MX sport. No wonder loyal Whites customers are discouraged. This is my review! I am supposed to have the updated unit , so after many test runs in fresh water on most programs get ready to dig every thing..on all metal relic and prospecting small wire,,, bobby pins and all bottle caps, trust me I've read every forums pros and cons about this machine ,when someone said you can,t really Hunt by sound that's true ,! You have to keep checking the bouncing numbers on the target ID. I dont want to dig to China, l found more gold with my at pro than my mine lab friends this year by covering the bottom of the shore line consistently. This machine is a step back in technology ,, should have just saved for a mine lab, l made the mistake of watching whites movies and promo u tubs and trusting the stores that sell them . this machine is a mxt in a water proof bag ! My handle creeks like a saddle and people are sending the unit in for a second time, somones right they should have not used faithful buyers as testers. This pisses me off l worked my ass off to buy a better than at pro detector and get this , also pinpoint mode can hardly here it unless your on top of the target with full volume turned up, l sold an mxt because of things, and fell for it again ,that's my fault! And to return it theirs a 20 percent or more loss , thanks alot whites and the places that sell them,and don't,t tell me theirs alearning curve that's bull shit ,all l wanted to do is dig pull tabs and change ,not all metal! All the time!
WaterHound
Member
Please forgive me for such a nasty post , the MX sport I have could still be used for sand bars or out in the water farther or property markers and of course gold prospecting . lm sure many hunters are very happy with this machine ,and l can still use it for a back up detector. I'd be afraid to buy different coils now . wish their was a detector shop around here that had demos or even rentals of new models then a guy could at least try before they buy. Only in a perfect world ! Sorry again , not happy but I will live , to waste money again.
As far as the creeking noise, it is probably the upper rod where it locks into the camlock . Mine did the same thing, and after investigating, the upper rod was a little loose fitting. I put a little strip of black electrical tape on each side of the upper rod where it goes into the camlock, so it fits a little tighter, and no more creeking.
Old California
New member
Believe this is my forth MX Sport, each with different firmware. Recently, Received the latest, haven't spent too much time with it but what little time I've spend with the new sport I like it.
See some improvements, little more stability in mineralzion using prospecting or all metal mode. Can run SAT speed at lower settings with all metal modes, this is good as it enhances depth out in open areas. I'm more of an all metal relic hunter out in open areas away from iron, with the MXSport, all metal or prospecting mode has a depth edge over relic or any of the other modes.
Relic mode is my mode of choice for areas laced with iron, MXSport can hold it's own under these conditions. With relic mode, Use excessive SAT without loss of depth. But with all metal or prospecting mode, Excessive SAT will decrease depth but in heavy mineralztion if you need it use it for stability.
Recommend not using headsets with soft audio, stock headset are good maybe even the waterproof set and i plan on ordering one tomorrow. I found this out on a recent hunt after receiving my latest MXSport, was using a single cup headset and with a recent lose of hearing i wasn't hearing signals very well. As a result, was passing up weak signals masked by iron.
After going back to the stock two cup headset, signals opened up again now i was hearing those iron masked signals. Highly recommend using good headsets with the MXSport for those with poor hearing, stock headsets are good if your favorite headset audio are too soft.
I wouldn't worry about poor ocean ocean water performance, single frequently vlf don't fare well under these conditions. Inland mineralztion or fresh water black sand is what a user needs to be concerned with, that's were the MXSport does well for my type of hunting.
Paul
See some improvements, little more stability in mineralzion using prospecting or all metal mode. Can run SAT speed at lower settings with all metal modes, this is good as it enhances depth out in open areas. I'm more of an all metal relic hunter out in open areas away from iron, with the MXSport, all metal or prospecting mode has a depth edge over relic or any of the other modes.
Relic mode is my mode of choice for areas laced with iron, MXSport can hold it's own under these conditions. With relic mode, Use excessive SAT without loss of depth. But with all metal or prospecting mode, Excessive SAT will decrease depth but in heavy mineralztion if you need it use it for stability.
Recommend not using headsets with soft audio, stock headset are good maybe even the waterproof set and i plan on ordering one tomorrow. I found this out on a recent hunt after receiving my latest MXSport, was using a single cup headset and with a recent lose of hearing i wasn't hearing signals very well. As a result, was passing up weak signals masked by iron.
After going back to the stock two cup headset, signals opened up again now i was hearing those iron masked signals. Highly recommend using good headsets with the MXSport for those with poor hearing, stock headsets are good if your favorite headset audio are too soft.
I wouldn't worry about poor ocean ocean water performance, single frequently vlf don't fare well under these conditions. Inland mineralztion or fresh water black sand is what a user needs to be concerned with, that's were the MXSport does well for my type of hunting.
Paul
Old California
New member
hello El,
Not this trip had some things surface over the weekend, but in two weeks ill be there.
Remember i mentioned the MXSport audio didn't sound right, wasn't hearing masked signals like before. Turns out my hearing was the problem, plus using one cup headset on the bad ear didn't help. After switching to the stock headset, boy audio was much better.
Yup, my right ear hearing has greatly went down hill. Hopefully see you in two weeks, ill let you know when im heading out there.
HH, Paul
Not this trip had some things surface over the weekend, but in two weeks ill be there.
Remember i mentioned the MXSport audio didn't sound right, wasn't hearing masked signals like before. Turns out my hearing was the problem, plus using one cup headset on the bad ear didn't help. After switching to the stock headset, boy audio was much better.
Yup, my right ear hearing has greatly went down hill. Hopefully see you in two weeks, ill let you know when im heading out there.
HH, Paul
Old California
New member
Keep us posted,
I'm currently using three coils with my MXSport, Stock 10" DD, 7" DD detech and the elliptical DD.
Looking forward to your first MXSport finds.
HH,Paul
I'm currently using three coils with my MXSport, Stock 10" DD, 7" DD detech and the elliptical DD.
Looking forward to your first MXSport finds.
HH,Paul
Old California said:
Hey Paul, I spent a couple of hours in and around a football/soccer at a relatively new elementary school. It was EXTREMELY trashy (foil/can slaw) so the unit was chirping with regularity. I did find some clad and when it the coins were under the coil (stock BTW) they rang out very true on the VDI scale. I did notice that several pieces of can slaw rang up as a copper penny. Like most guys I didn't read the manual first so I need to figure out how best to notch out the trash so it's not chirping at meaningless stuff. I ran in it 2 tone as I'm not much on multiple tones. Any helpful suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
My previous detector was a V3i and I have to say that I'm much happier with the MX Sport.
davidtn said:
Same camp here, V3i is now a closet queen. Because of that I got a couple tips for ya!
1. Try turning the sensitivity down first. This will help the detector skip over some of the small targets like tiny can slaw pieces that can give you a solid tone like a coin. You will still pull targets at 8+ inches with a sensitivity of about 4/5 depending on ground. You can also try pivoting 90 degrees when you get a good signal. If it bounces around or changes drastically when you pivot, the chances are higher that it is not something you would dig. But there's only one way to be sure...
2. If it's still too trashy try relic mode with a fast SAT setting. This will also help some, though you will at the same time be hearing the all-metal channel so it takes a bit to get used to. But any discriminated target will chirp (or grunt if you have iron grunt on) and good targets will bang out with a solid tone.
I would NOT notch out the higher ranges - depending on depth, good targets like IHP, buttons, bullets, and many older coins will fall into the range you are tuning out. Targets you might not want to miss!
Old California
New member
Thank you Tom for sharing, very informative.
Appreciate all the help you've provided us, Whites hit a home run when they hired you.
Thanks again,
Paul
Appreciate all the help you've provided us, Whites hit a home run when they hired you.
Thanks again,
Paul
Old California
New member
Hello David,
I believe yyou'll use the MXSport more often over the V3, much more user friendly and it's waterproof.
Tom shared excellent tips for coin shooting. Very informative, those pieces of slaw can fool you.
This is the case with any sensitive VLF, especially higher khz models. Can slaw will fool you, but with tips such as Toms and others each detector has it's way of eliminating some can slaw.
Also, Tom put out a great video with audio modulation recently, I watched it while my MXSport was in for the latest firmware and meter assembly replacement. So i was excited to try it when my sport was returned with the latest upgrade, it does work.
At an old park, have a test bed of buried wheat pennies. As Tom mentioned in the video, it will loose some depth when using Audio Modulation. And it did when the user has audio modulation activated, so i tried something to bring back that loss of depth and it worked. When using audio modulation, if the user is after deep coins the extream deeper ones try rasing sensitivshariittle you'll be suprised how those loss deeper coin signals will spring back that are lost from audio modulation.
And as Tom mentions try using Relic mode, i too use relic mode for parks and have always been a believer of pushing SAT in relic mode. I don't see any loss of depth with using high SAT with relic mode, it actually helps the user in trashty areas without sacrificing depth out in cleaner areas.
Not to be confused with prospecting or all metal mode, Increased SAT does the opposite. Increased SAT with all metal modes is to stabilize the machine in tougher soils but it loses depth.
Ive had a long stretch of detecting off time last year, so i need to get refamilar with my upgraded MXSport. It's so easy to loose the edge when not getting out often, and it looks like my schedule hasn't changed for the next good part of the new year. Sure ill make sure to get out once in a while, but you can bet the MXSport will be one of my detectors of choice.
One thing i want to share, especially for those detecting older sites pounded year after year out in the cleaner areas. Need a good pi to get those deeper signals, or go all metal with the MXT or MXSport. You'll be susuprise with what you're missing using the other modes.
Good luck and keep us posted,
Paul
I believe yyou'll use the MXSport more often over the V3, much more user friendly and it's waterproof.
Tom shared excellent tips for coin shooting. Very informative, those pieces of slaw can fool you.
This is the case with any sensitive VLF, especially higher khz models. Can slaw will fool you, but with tips such as Toms and others each detector has it's way of eliminating some can slaw.
Also, Tom put out a great video with audio modulation recently, I watched it while my MXSport was in for the latest firmware and meter assembly replacement. So i was excited to try it when my sport was returned with the latest upgrade, it does work.
At an old park, have a test bed of buried wheat pennies. As Tom mentioned in the video, it will loose some depth when using Audio Modulation. And it did when the user has audio modulation activated, so i tried something to bring back that loss of depth and it worked. When using audio modulation, if the user is after deep coins the extream deeper ones try rasing sensitivshariittle you'll be suprised how those loss deeper coin signals will spring back that are lost from audio modulation.
And as Tom mentions try using Relic mode, i too use relic mode for parks and have always been a believer of pushing SAT in relic mode. I don't see any loss of depth with using high SAT with relic mode, it actually helps the user in trashty areas without sacrificing depth out in cleaner areas.
Not to be confused with prospecting or all metal mode, Increased SAT does the opposite. Increased SAT with all metal modes is to stabilize the machine in tougher soils but it loses depth.
Ive had a long stretch of detecting off time last year, so i need to get refamilar with my upgraded MXSport. It's so easy to loose the edge when not getting out often, and it looks like my schedule hasn't changed for the next good part of the new year. Sure ill make sure to get out once in a while, but you can bet the MXSport will be one of my detectors of choice.
One thing i want to share, especially for those detecting older sites pounded year after year out in the cleaner areas. Need a good pi to get those deeper signals, or go all metal with the MXT or MXSport. You'll be susuprise with what you're missing using the other modes.
Good luck and keep us posted,
Paul
Old California
New member
Was afraid to share this before trying this out with can slaw, maybe you or others can find time to test out my theory of using audio modulation to reduce can slaw.
Of course, if this does work it'll be the smaller pieces. Because audio modulation reduces some depth, maybe the smaller pieces of can slaw can be avoided because the signal is weaker. Think about this for a second, deeper weaker signals are harder to detect with Modulation on. Thus, in theory so should tiny surface signals such as can slaw.
Just something Ive been pondering on, so if others find that it helps reduce can slaw please do share.
Lower sensitivity should help reduce can slaw as well.
Paul
Of course, if this does work it'll be the smaller pieces. Because audio modulation reduces some depth, maybe the smaller pieces of can slaw can be avoided because the signal is weaker. Think about this for a second, deeper weaker signals are harder to detect with Modulation on. Thus, in theory so should tiny surface signals such as can slaw.
Just something Ive been pondering on, so if others find that it helps reduce can slaw please do share.
Lower sensitivity should help reduce can slaw as well.
Paul
All metal, relics, and prospecting is set up to find all metal. If you want to miss the iron you have to raise the disc. or hunt in coin mode if it has one. Most detectors you can eliminate most of the junk if you want to but you will miss coins and jewelry that reads lower.