iron sounding good in 2 tone ferrous?

[jtalley007]

Only have a few hunts in with f75 ltd2. What tricks can you 75 pros share on iron sounding good. I even tried the 5" coil, maybe running it too hot, any thoughts? I usually use 0 disc but even edged that up to 10-15. Thanks

 

[squirrel1]

I've used my F75LTD2 quite a bit. Here's what I notice. Yes at times it will sound good on iron or square nails. But if you will lengthen your sweep some while over you can usually tell it's iron. On the other hand once you get the high tone and you start sweeping with real short sweeps you'll think good target all the way. Just widen your sweep and look to see if your detector hits the same on most sweeps and at the same spot. And the turning 90 degrees is sorta bs, because when turning you may lose the target, but guess what, the target may still be there. And if you walk oh well, there is always another detectorist who may come along and dig your find you left.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

And the turning 90 degrees is sorta bs, because when turning you may lose the target, but guess what, the target may still be there. And if you walk oh well, there is always another detectorist who may come along and dig your find you left.

Well if that's true maybe I'll find something you missed entirely when I sweep at a 90° path because it didn't respond when you went over it in one sweep plane. ;-) LOTS of times chirpy and broben tones with hopping TID turn out to be multiple targets

Just another technique in the toolbox - like lifting as you sweep to see how a target holds.

JTally007 - For iron (I assume you don't want iron sounding good) try the bottlecap process and/or 2L and 1n tones. Quiets down iron hits.

 

[ddmk6]

I also use pinpoint to help me out as well. You can get an idea of the target size by length of tone one direction then spin 90 and check length of tone as well. Also if you are getting a good tone and pinpoint over it and nothing is there but there is something off to the side a bit....probably iron unless it's too deep to pinpoint. But you should be able to tell it's deep by the sound.

Big iron will sound good but you will know it's big by using pinpoint. Then it's up to you if you want to dig or not.

Kenny

 

[c t]

When you get a hit that might be slightly broken with good tone and grunt on the beginning or end of swing try this bob the coil up and down over the target iron will grunt or be silent 95percent of the time. Nonferrous will give a good tone. I have done this with the gold 75 the 75 ltd camo and the se. I don't own the ltd2. But it stands to reason it will work as well. Hope this helps. It does work its on Page one of my r75 notes. HH to all. C t

 

[DirtyJohn]

I was going to say to bob the coil over the target. If it goes to iron all the time then it probably is, if you get an occasional high tone mixed in then dig it. You can try slanting the coil slightly while sweeping the coil over the target kind of like you do when trying to identify bottle caps. If it stays iron then it probably is. if you get an occasional high tone mixed in then dig it.

Also try PF mode for separation in iron. It's not as fast or deep as DE but seems to give a better two way high tone of good targets mixed with iron, kind of like FA just not as fast but deeper.

HH
John

 

[squirrel1]

And the turning 90 degrees is sorta bs, because when turning you may lose the target, but guess what, the target may still be there. And if you walk oh well, there is always another detectorist who may come along and dig your find you left.

Well if that's true maybe I'll find something you missed entirely when I sweep at a 90° path because it didn't respond when you went over it in one sweep plane. ;-) LOTS of times chirpy and broben tones with hopping TID turn out to be multiple targets

Just another technique in the toolbox - like lifting as you sweep to see how a target holds.

JTally007 - For iron (I assume you don't want iron sounding good) try the bottlecap process and/or 2L and 1n tones. Quiets down iron hits.

Don't quite understand what you were saying. I stated if you get a good tone and then turn 90 degrees and it disappears, watch out, don't necessarily walk. Some folks think when you turn and signal goes to iron or vanishes altogether, it's time to walk. This is far from the truth. I have found a many a good targets that only gave a good signal and when turning sounded like bs. I've even gotten iron tone in relic field and turned and got a good signal and dug some wonderful targets. There are no hard and fast rules. But one has to try and put the odds in their favor, hard to dig every single questionable signal. Some folks may, but not me. I'll take my chances on finding a better signal a lot of times; especially if my finds pouch already has some good finds. Now when not finding anything or much at all, that's when it's time sometimes to try and pull a rabbit out of the hat.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

I guess I misunderstood when you said the "turning 90 degrees is sorta bs". With any DD coil I always use the 90° pass to double check a target before digging or moving on.

 

[REVIER]

This might be helpful...
https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=4BFfAAkTQDg
https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=KJOarwHFHm4

 

[mudpuppy]

Great stuff!

I'm liking this DirtyJohn guy!....I see this is his first post, so Welcome!...I also 'hop coil' like he mentioned and dont rely on the 90 degree thing, especially in the trash with multiple targets under the coil skewing the signal..really a topic that seldom comes up is 'alternative coil manipulation techniques'....

A guy dont have to sweep side to side you know, Minelab wiggle and all that...

You can 'pump pulse' with these fast recovery Fishers even in heavy trash with the 11"dd...you all should try this 'little drummer boy', 'hop coil', 'jigging' style just once...its freaking killer fast, accurate feedback, and you wont use your PP button ever again...ping to pouch in less than 15 seconds on all targets 5" to surface...if you just give it a go you will see...

Hey Dirty...dont hold back here..introduce yourself and tell us what rig you are running and how you roll! I'm thinking you got some great style...or am I wrong?
Mud

 

[DirtyJohn]

Great stuff!

I'm liking this DirtyJohn guy!....I see this is his first post, so Welcome!...I also 'hop coil' like he mentioned and dont rely on the 90 degree thing, especially in the trash with multiple targets under the coil skewing the signal..really a topic that seldom comes up is 'alternative coil manipulation techniques'....

A guy dont have to sweep side to side you know, Minelab wiggle and all that...

You can 'pump pulse' with these fast recovery Fishers even in heavy trash with the 11"dd...you all should try this 'little drummer boy', 'hop coil', 'jigging' style just once...its freaking killer fast, accurate feedback, and you wont use your PP button ever again...ping to pouch in less than 15 seconds on all targets 5" to surface...if you just give it a go you will see...

Hey Dirty...dont hold back here..introduce yourself and tell us what rig you are running and how you roll! I'm thinking you got some great style...or am I wrong?
Mud

Thanks Mud,
I should have introduced myself. To tell you the truth, I thought I registered at this site years ago until I tried to sign in with every username and password I could think of. I guess I'm getting old.

I've been a member of some other sites for years so I thought I was on this one too. That's what I get for lurking.

Anyways right now I'm running only 2 machines, a Tesoro Tigershark for my Lake Michigan adventures and an updated F75ltd 2 for everything else. I've had quite a few machines over the years and been scrounging around in the dirt with them since the 80's.

I've got some good old military sites and some old homesites and parks that I hunt although the forest preserve depts. in our area has put alot off limits in recent years (Damn bureaucrats).
My bucket list is still quite long though.
HH
John