Southwind, comparing the Compadre to the ATP doesn't really make much sense. It's like saying that your sports car is better than my pickup truck - it's an argument that can never be won no matter how "logical" you think you are. People here are enthusiastic about the Compadre because it works and it's inexpensive, that part is fairly obvious. What's wrong with letting folks be enthusiastic about this little unit that works so well for the price of a nice family dinner? Certainly you could say the same about the Cibola, but Tabman and many others don't seem to be running short of good finds with it. Many here see detectors like yours, with a color TV to watch as you scan, as not necessary, and like spending $1000 to $1500 premium so you don't have to dig as much. One of the differences in some of the discussions I see here is they are centered more on how detectors and detecting works, not about the best "program" they should put in to their machine. Now, if you say that you dig just as much trash as a fellow with a Tesoro because "you never know unless you dig it", then why spend the money on an expensive unit? I can tell you why right now: because you like them! I like them too. Wrong or right doesn't matter, simplicity and performance that takes practice and know-how to achieve the highest performance in a unit that takes time to master is what what folks like about the Tesoros. In fact, I have an X-Terra 705 that works wonderfully and because of the different style and philosophy of the Tesoros I am close to pulling the trigger on a Vaquero or Tejon. You have lots experience to be sure, but when it comes to this type of argument it's best to recognize it for what it is and just let it go.