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Initial impressions of Cortes

LilloEsquilo

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I recently took the plunge and bought a new Cortes. It's a machine that caught my eye when it first came out, but then I was a Minelab guy. But over the years I have wondered what the machine would be like, and recently I decided to satisfy my curiousity.

I got the machine, and was able to assemble it without reading the instructions, other than about the battery doors. It's mostly self-explanatory really, if you've ever used a beeper. Normally I use a test bed to try out a new detector, but I for some reason felt the Cortes wouldn't really need that, so I just took it out in the field.

My impressions are first it's very light weight and well balanced so your arm isn't going to get tired. With most detectors there is a learning curve, at least most of the detectors I've had which include the T2, F-75, Coinstrike, E-Trac, Sovereign and Explorer. The learning curve on the Cortes is almost zero - if you've used a detector before, you will be fine right away with the Cortes, and come to feel confident in it very quickly. You really can't say that about the Explorer. (Or at least I can't). I noticed a couple of things about the Cortes - first, it really discriminates iron very well, probably better than any of the machines I've mentioned do. Also when you have multiple targets in the hole, you will know that, way better than I ever did with my other machines. This was my first outing with it, and yet I still knew when there were multiple targets in the hole, and was very impressed when I re-checked the hole and sure enough there was something else there.

I also like the fact you have multiple ways to read the target on the screen - first the "smear graph", then an ID number, and finally the text saying what the likely target is. If these do not agree, or you don't get a repeatable signal, it's very likely junk from what I saw.

In short, this is a really easy to use and fun machine that you will get comfortable with very quickly. I did notice that the indicated depth reading was off on my machine, using the stock coil. It always read deeper than the target really was. I could probably send the machine in to Tesoro for this, and probably will after I the hunt season is over, but for now I am fine with being aware of that. I've honestly never seen a machine where the depth reading was "right on" anyway, it's always a best guess, and of course size of target will skew the readings.

It's got a lifetime warranty, so that says something to me. First detector I bothered to send the warranty card in for.

I could see myself using this for a long time to come, it's a pleasure to use, and if the coins are there this will find them.

Just my initial impressions of the Cortes I hope it helps someone. I got the 5.75 inch widescan for really trashy areas but did not use it my first outing. I'm also using a Garrett pinpointer with it, no interference at all that I saw between the detector and pinpointer. That little Garrett is a great pinpointer by the way but that's another story. I really like the Cortes a lot. I should add, that I'm a coinshooter, which this machine was really made for and meant to do, as opposed to relic or beach hunting. If I was a relic hunter I may well have tried a Tejon.

I say keep up the good work Tesoro, I can appreciate this machine and the fact it's backed by a lifetime warranty. No one else does that anymore that I'm aware of in this industry (not sure about Troy?). All the more reason to appreciate Tesoro.
 
But for us senior citizens awful small meter comes to mind...Tesoro sure makes good detectors but when it comes to ID meter units they just don't compare with the competition..
 
Lillo, I've had my Cortes over 3 years now and love it. My depth readings for coins seems to be accurate up to 6 inches, then it reads a little deeper, but still close enough. On some hunts I don't want to dig targets less than 4" deep and so I look at the depth reading. I always glance at the screen ID when I get a beep, it quickly gives me a clue about the target, especially the coins. The SUM mode is quite helpful when you want more info, but takes a while to understand. The SUM mode does a lot more internal processing about the target and will not give any info if the target signal is very weak in regular Disc mode, the regular Disc mode goes a little deeper. The Golden uMax is another nice machine. I prefer it over the Cortes when I'm in an area that has a lot of junk targets, those tones are great to have.
 
That's a good point on the sum mode. I tried that, but honestly felt like most of the time I really didn't need it. I can see where it would come in handy though at times. This thing tells apart multiple targets better than anything I've tried before, and it was just really refreshing to see that. Very good point!
 
Well I'm 45, and I found the size of the display just perfect and had no trouble reading it, but I know that won't be true for everyone.

I have to disagree with the point that their TID machines don't compete with those of other manufacturers. I've tried quite a few of the high end and mid range machines from other companies (I know you've got quite an arsenal too Dan) so I can compare these from personal experience. I could have any of these machines I wanted, but I chose the Cortes, and after running it in the field, it was actually better than I expected. Sure an E-Trac is an awesome metal detector, I've had one, it does have a bigger display, and the finds I made with it were fantastic, but it's heavy compared to the Cortes, it's much more expensive and even the aftermarket coils cost a lot more, and there is something to be said for the simplistic operation of the Cortes versus programming your E-Trac. Both are great, but I don't see it as Tesoro doesn't offer a product as good as the others, I think they do. I honestly think Tesoro got this right in the design of the machine, because when I go detecting I don't want to program computers, I do that at my day job, and I don't want to be heavily thinking about how I get it to do something I want to make a quick adjustment and see it, not scroll through the menu system trying to find my option for 5 minutes or carry a menu card with me (the E-Trac somes with a menu card for the field). I just want to hunt and the Cortes lets me do that and very well.

Just my 2 cents! I really like this machine and it's made me excited to go detecting for the first time in a while, since I sold my E-Trac actually.
 
I should mention that personally the changes I would want in it would be tone ID all the time vs just in SUM mode, also I would like to see the ground balance for discriminate mode as well as all-metal mode.

IF at all possible, I'd like to see a bit more target resolution on the upper end, so that you could tell a silver dime from a copper penny too. I know that may not be possible or they would have done it, BUT I'm just saying if I had my wish....

Otherwise, for a VLF machine, it's pretty close to perfect in my view and there isn't much else I'd change. I know some people would like a bit bigger display, so that is something I recommend a person check before they buy if possible to be sure they are fine with the display size. I can't think of anything else I'd want to change on it. (I'm fine personally with the display as is).

Again, the fact it has a lifetime warranty says a lot to me, no one else I know of is doing that anymore now that Fisher dropped it. And I've heard Tesoro takes care of their customers and backs their stuff. I'm just liking this detector, quite a bit.
 
Whatever works I guess...I have a modded light Explorer XS which is my deep silver unit and a 19 year old Tesoro Pantera which gives me the audio variances I need to cut down the odds for a gold ring and both work well depending where I am and what I am looking for..Unfortunately am 72 and hard of hearing but the old Pantera just gives me the edge I need to find a gold ring now and then and have the fun in trying...luckily my tone and audio variance hearing is better than most so I have the best of both worlds..We all have our favorites and Tesoro makes excellent machines so use what works...PS: I could never handle a stock Explorers weight myself either but honestly didn't find it a hard unit to use....
 
Lillo, make a paper label using Microsoft Excel, spray it with lacquer, let it dry then attach it to the meter. I used a peelable doublestick tape to stick mine on and can be peeled off easy. Makes the meter easy to read with just a quick glance. The two up arrows on the screen indicates to raise the coil for a more accurate ID of the target.
 
Lillo, I'm using a DeLeon which has a bit bigger display, but lists copper pennies, clad and silver all under one bar and number. I've often wished it did list the copper penny and dime separately, but the other TID machines I've used listed the penny and dime together. I haven't seen any that separate that pair. The DeLeon and I assume the Cortes do clearly separate Zinc pennies and nickels from the other options. The D has preset ground balance in both all metal and disc which work fine in my area although I'd really like to see Tesoro come out with a similar machine with either true auto ground or manual. Regardless, I've retrieved many coins and a number of rings with it and have generally been well pleased.
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When I first got the Cortes I air tested targets in SUM mode to see what advantage it has. Didn't seem to do much other than help stabilize the meter on those jumpy targets and give tones. About a year later someone posted how great it is and so I tried it again. SUM is very useful to double check the meter and has 9 tones, one for each bar.
 
I had a Cortes and I loved it. I had great success with it and was pretty sure I would keep it for a very long time. I felt that if they could have combined the tones of the Golden
 
dan b said:
I found a machine that gave me everything the Cortes was lacking at a much cheaper price tag. It's deeper, can ground balance in both modes, has "live" tracking of the ground mineralization, and has tones that are clear and precise.

So what detector are you using now?
 

I don't want to go there. My point was that Tesoro is not competitive in this segment of the market. There are competitors selling twice the machine for hundreds less. But for non-metered machines, they are the absolute best. I had a Tejon, a Golden and a Vaquero. For beep and dig, in my opinion, there is no competition. Maybe they should just stick with that and forget about the TID market. Of course, having said that, if they ever did come out with a new TID machine I would definitely give it a whirl. But I'm not holding my breath.

Dan
 
Can you give a specific example of a competitor's detector that is twice the machine for hundreds less? I'm pretty familiar with most of the offerings by most makers and I can't think of one.

I still disagree, I've used a lot of the higher end and mid range metered machines out there, and in my opinion for whatever that is worth, Tesoro IS viable. Just my opinion. I really disagree with you on this one.
 
Yours is customized, that's really cool Jabbo. I also hadn't figured out yet about the double arrows, so thanks for that as well!
 
I'll bet it doesn't have a lifetime warranty. And the Cortes retails for 679, so I bet it also wasn't hundreds less.

Frankly I don't WANT Tesoro to start building the way FT does. The F75 I had was an awesome detector, but I would not call the build quality fantastic by any means.

I guess as you said to each their own. I'm happy with my Cortes.
 
Sounds from the description like a Teknetics Omega.

I had a T2, very good detector. I made some good finds with it. I still like my Cortes and that is my unit of choice. If someone else likes another detector more, more power to them, I'm sticking with what I like. And it is a pretty good detector, as far as I'm concerned.
 
The Tesoro company is still servicing 30 year old detectors, how long can you say first texas will be servicing the O8k?
 
Dunno honestly. Maybe they'll stand the test of time too. I guess I just don't get that you are in the Tesoro forum, posting that you like a particular Tesoro machine, and some guy has to pop up and try to push something else. That's his right, but I guess my feeling is if you don't care for Tesoro and prefer FT products, why not post positive posts in the FT forum instead of negative posts in the Tesoro forum? And why make claims that are pretty much nonsense like saying there are machines twice as good for hundreds less? As I said, name one please. I heard nothing in response. Any fool can claim anything, I prefer to see facts, and when someone can't back up what they claim, it just makes me think they have their head stuck in a certain body orifice.

Ok rant over, but it pretty much had to be said, and it's the truth. Name that machine that is twice as good for hundreds less so we can compare, or else just be considered a shill for another manufacturer.

And by the way I have no problem with saying how good FT products are if you feel that way. I wouldn't argue the point. I would argue coming into the Tesoro forum and talking kind of smack and not having the facts to back them up. I'm watching if he feels he has the facts, and if so I'm big enough to admit I was wrong and he's right. I guess we'll see.
 
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