Critter , good point on the rings, The cladda gold ring I found was just like that it was heavy end down and sounded totaly diffrent when i put it flat , In fact it sounded like a badd chunk of can slaw, ya those kind of rings will fall heavy side down , and the signal is night and day diffrent but the GT is good at things on edge, I have been trying that dig all to find masked items and I tell you I am not finding to many masked Items , but i am getting better at knowing whats down thear, but Jim in connecticut is weaning me of the all metal , LOL