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I'm going back in time instead of moving forward

88junior

88junior

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I have been detecting for over 30 years and man oh man how detectors and things detecting related has changed. I have tried a lot of the newest and greatest detectors on the market currently but I always end up going back to what I felt like worked for me and I had confidence in while using it. The newer detectors have way too many adjustments and I am always afraid of it not being set up right and what I could be missing due to that. That's one of the reasons I keep going back in time instead of in the future. I currently have a Fisher CZ 5 and a Explorer SE Pro a Deeptech Vista X and I just ordered a new Fisher F5. These are all excellent detectors and they are plenty deep enough and my confidence in them is through the roof. I have went back to sites that I had thought was picked cleaned by the newer detectors only to find things that they had missed while swinging a detector that was 20 + years older. I don't know if I'm the only one that is doing this but I have learned that if something works why change it out for something that takes a engineer to operate. This hobby is about having fun and I myself enjoy the simple old school detectors that I know like the back of my hand.
 
I think what happens is we read stories about someone making great finds at a given site and they tout about how their new detector made all the finds possible. In reality they would have made most of the same finds if they had been using their other "older" detector. To be fair their newer detector helped find targets that the old detector wouldn't have found that day,"BUT" if they had been using the older detector, it would have found targets that the "newer" detector would not have found that same day. We get caught up in hearing about the great finds and let our minds convince us it's all about the detector. The age old facts about methods used are still what dictates the finds we make. I always feel that what methods were used and what detector they were used on ,on any given day, were what worked for that day. Anyone that gives all the credit to the detector, are kidding themselves. Just about any quality detector made in the past 25 years when used right, in experienced hands, can match up to todays so called top model detector. I will say that todays "factory default settings" are helpful to someone that hasn't mastered their detector yet. The older detectors required a learning curve that is longer than the "turn on and go" detectors that are offered today. Not to say that the newer units don't have learning curves too, but they do seem to have the capability to allow the new user to be successful early on. This may be the biggest drawing point for justifying their purchase. I feel that if I am having fun and that I am overall successful using my chosen detector, then don't try to convince me that I am losing out by not swinging the latest and so called greatest model. There are still many detector users like myself that have hunted for 30 to 40+years and I bet most of them have many of the same feelings. If someone wants to swing every new detector that comes along, then have at it, enjoy the hobby, but trying to convince everyone else that they are not enjoying the hobby like they would if they had that new detector, doesn't help anyone.
 
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88junior said:
I have been detecting for over 30 years and man oh man how detectors and things detecting related has changed. I have tried a lot of the newest and greatest detectors on the market currently but I always end up going back to what I felt like worked for me and I had confidence in while using it. The newer detectors have way too many adjustments and I am always afraid of it not being set up right and what I could be missing due to that. That's one of the reasons I keep going back in time instead of in the future. I currently have a Fisher CZ 5 and a Explorer SE Pro a Deeptech Vista X and I just ordered a new Fisher F5. These are all excellent detectors and they are plenty deep enough and my confidence in them is through the roof. I have went back to sites that I had thought was picked cleaned by the newer detectors only to find things that they had missed while swinging a detector that was 20 + years older. I don't know if I'm the only one that is doing this but I have learned that if something works why change it out for something that takes a engineer to operate. This hobby is about having fun and I myself enjoy the simple old school detectors that I know like the back of my hand.
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I believe you pretty much just Nailed It. The detector that works best for the individual and does what it is needed to do, tends to be the BEST detector out there. HH and Continued Success to you.
 
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I totally agree. I just bought a new set of Gray Ghost NDT headphones after the speaker went out on the left side of my 15 year old Gray Ghost Original head phones. I just received a new Minelab 8' Pro search coil for my Minelab fbs Safari. The Safari may not be the latest, and greatest, but it works for me, and that's all that matters. It is as fast and goes as deep as I need it to, good for hunting relics and works great on the beach.
 
I think it was Mark Twain that said that it is easier to fool someone than it is to convince them they have been fooled. Most people think if they pay big bucks, they are getting big buck extra performance instead of incremental gains. For some experts, it is worth every penny. For the majority of us, I doubt it makes much difference. I think knowing how your detector reacts to target makes a way bigger difference. Just my opinion
 
Believe it or not i know of guy that used a 1266 X for twenty years and was selling gold items to a gold melting company.What will surprise you is that he was making $800----$ 900 a year.This was in Arizona and he has retired.
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Too much fluff on these new machines. Honestly I don’t get it, but if it’s working for the users then so be it..As for me, I’m with JR88..A friend of mine in here said it pretty clearly,they’re trying to reinvent the wheel..It won’t stop, it can’t or else sales will fall off.
 
I just picked up a nice F-19 that I plan on using in iron infested camps. Have used the G2 and Gold Bug in past years with excellent results. I have used the X-Terra 70 and 705 for years for my field hunting. Our camps around here have been hunted to death so the 1st place I go is right into the iron patches and squeak out a few. I tried the F-70 a couple of times in the past and was really not impressed, I thought it was a eco model of the F-75. If I had a use for one now, I would jump on the low prices, better than a Ace 250 for a newbie also.
 
I have 12 Detectors the XP DEUS # 9 HOT Program full tone and disc at 10 is about the only detector that I use
I have a GO Pro chest mount camera harness I take the leather remote case pouch clip it where the camera goes .. I can open the case the remote hangs down where you can see it close it and go detect by tones .. I have alittle prob with bottle caps but who does not ..
Buddy has a NOX 900 I went behind him and found a gold ring .. He looked at the VDI and moved on .. It was broken not a complete circle so it had a funny tone
 
Working on my 51st year with the hobby, I've come to learn the best detector is the one you use and know. Back in the days when I couldn't afford many new detector offerings when one came out, I set kind of a rule of thumb I wouldn't trade or sell one until I had 150 hours on it. Since I hunt more today then back in those earlier years, I use 100 hours as the barometer for whether I like or dislike a detector. And as a result, I have never totally disliked any detector I have owned.

Having said all that, I do like the new technology verses the older. My current swing is very good in modern trash, deep and adjustable, if I want to play with it. Most importantly, though, I have several hundred hours on it and it finds me treasure because I do. HH jim tn
 
Things change.
I still have my F75, but I haven't used it for quite some time.
Probably the best tests are done if you take your old fisher and your new high tech unit out at the same time and test both on each target found.
Only then you can truely judge the effectiveness of both.
What I need is a detector Caddy😅, to carry the second unit.
 
Personally I feel no site is hunted out.
The ground is constantly moving.
From year to year it changes from freezing and heaving. Rain and heat to foot traffic.
Unless you grid the area. Overlapping every swing by 50%. Coming from 3 different angles.
And even then nobody's doing perfect swings Everytime.
You will always go back with any machine and find new targets.
And yes. I love my old machines.
 
I loved the cz 5 but the weight was getting to me , I had a bad injury, then total c2-c7 neck fusion. I had to find a lightweight detector, hence the D2 Ws6 master. 88junior if it works for you !! That’s all you need!!!! HH Tony
 
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I loved the cz 5 but the weight was getting to me , I had a bad injury, then total c2-c7 neck fusion. I had to find a lightweight detector, hence the D2 Ws6 master. 88junior if it works for you !! That’s all you need!!!! HH Tony
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I have spinel injuries from my sacrum to my skull.
17 disc's and sacrum and pelvis. Both hips to.
I've found Core exercises with bands keeps me on my feet. If you're interested I'll teach you.
 
My first detector was the F4. After a couple years I bought the F75 LTD camo. I struggled with all the deeper signals and chatter from my new detector!! With help from all you veterans I hung in there. I traded the F4 in for the Gold Bug. I didn't like it and after having problems with the coil on the F75 in the water I traded the Gold Bug in for the AT Pro. But I use the F75 the most. I have built up so much confidence in using it over the years I can't imagine using anything else. Don't get me wrong change is good. But why fix something that's not broke. So with the drop of prices on the Fisher line up I bought a new F75 SE. As a back up....hhrickinmi
 
Well I got my new Fisher F5 in yesterday and I must say it is a nice detector and it doesn't take a engineer to set it up and operate it! I took it to a local school that has yielded silver in the past no silver on this hunt but I did find a few wheaties that I know I have swang other detectors over before and missed them. Deepest one I dug was at the 7 inch mark on my digger. I was using the 10" elliptical concentric threshold at zero no discrimination and two tone.
 
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