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Id Excel,CoinStrike or CZ7A??

Ron from Michigan

Ron from Michigan

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I currently use an Id Excel with about 50 hours of experience.The Id Excel has performed well and I have found a couple of silver coins and about a dozen wheat pennies during this time. After checking the Id reading #20 for an Indian head penny I realized good targets may have been missed. I'm still learning with this unit.Most of my searching will be in the older trashy parks in Michigan.Before the weather breaks completely I would like to have the best metal detector for this type of hunting.I bought a CoinStrike and a CZ7A,which I will receive in a couple of days. I'm going to use these detectors in the area parks.The detector thats performs best for me and is user friendly I'll keep. One unit will be sold.Yes I do have doubts about the task at hand, after reading downloaded manuals, and I know there is going to be a learning curve with each detector.I have received the Coin Strike and used it about 20 hours.The C$ is calibrated different(ID numbers for targets) from the Id Excel.Comparing the ID & CS the Excel is silk smooth operating in trash where the C$ jumps around on signals. Ron
 
I don't know about the coinstrike but I do know that the cz7a pro will go deep. For trashy areas I notch out everything but $$, set the GB & sens as high as it will go and be stable, volume 4 (use headphones to regulate volume). I am digging mercury dimes @ 12 inches +. Granted your settings will be a bit different due to ground balancing (here in FL there is very little to no mineralization)
It's a good machine. Just listen for those low "round" hits & dig them
 
Erikk thats very impressive depth on a dime.I just receive the CZ7A Pro yesterday haven't had a chance to use it yet.I really think I'm going to like this detector. Thanks Ron
 
Ron
Didn't mention that after digging down about 3-4 inches or so I hit a root that was about 4 inches in diameter and the dime was quite a bit under that. Had to tunnel under and use my vibra probe to locate it and then fish it out. Give it a chance & I think you will like it. I also use a DFX but when I have an old place that has been hammered I go to the cz7a pro
 
My first field use of the CZ7APro was today in a park that I have yet to find silver.The detector was setup on the factory settings.I chose an area that I had gone over with my Id Excel and Ace 250. This detector seems to have just raw horsepower in this loam Michigan soil.I did dig some trash but the pinpoining was great and I could tell the size of the target and recovery was fast.I found 24 coins one 1964 silver Roosevelt dime,silver ring and two wheat pennies 40's.Some of the dimes were as deep as six inches.I'm still learning how to use this unit no nickles were found today.The detector was more heavy than the other detectors I've used but didn't notice any shoulder or back fatigue.My opinon of this detector after the first outing it is very easy comfortable works well in thrash and if there is silver there you'll find it. HH Ron
 
Down here in FL I run the sens to the max, the
GB at 10 & volume at 4. You probably will have to back it down some but go as high as you can. If you are finding wheaties you will find more silver. go slow and hunt deep
 
Erikk I'll try those settings.Today I ran GB5 SEN4 notched out everything to the last notch.I think the CZ7A is a great detector.I found silver again today 1952Roosevelt 3 wheats oldest 1928, 16 coins in all including a Kennedy Half 1976.This is only the second time I used this detector.Great finds your mercury dimes and wheat pennies. Ron
 
Nice-the great stuff is just waiting for you to get down and find it. Sounds like you have a place that hasn't been hit much. I think I might just dig everything but iron
 
Erikk The park is in a high crime area and its been bypassed over by treasure hunters through the years.A lady walking her dog told me Chief Pontiac had a camp site in the park.Years ago she said an Indian camp remained and that in the early 1900's school children would make field trips to the sites.None of my researched revealed any of this information its amazing what people will tell you if you give them a minute of your time.The CZ7A is 2 for 2 each time out silver I think this detector is a keeper.Oh by the way at this point I'm hoping for Barb coins. Thanks Ron
 
Go deep and you will fine them. I also carry a 45 in a fanny pack when I go to places like that, Had an incident up in Mass when I was in the state police some guys thought they needed my detector. Changed their minds real quick when I showed them why they were wrong...
 
Erikk I thought that was one of the reason hunter's use the CZ7A.The detector has so much power you could point it at a would be mugger with the sensitivity up and burn their nose hairs out. Ron
 
Whatever it takes.. It sounds like you have found a really good place and will be spending a lot of time there. It will not go unnoticed so be careful
 
Erikk Serious just common sense to be safe. I don't wear headphones in a area that could be unfriendly.I think searching with others is a good idea too.I like these new dirt diggers they look like a knife from a distance.Maybe just a little paranoid isn't bad,which can make one more alert in case there is a problem. Last we as tax payer's have the same right to be in the park,as that crack smoking punk. Ron
 
without headphones you may be missing some of the deep ones. Tske a buddy & be alert. Good luck-sounds like you have found a great place
 
Erikk I went to the park today for a couple of hours. The sensitivity was set at four and the ground balance set at the factory five.If the sensitivity was over four the detector was just too eratic. No silver was found this time,but out of seven coins three were wheats 1924,1937,1960. The older wheats would indicate old silver coin are in the park to be found.I guess there are no dig parks and this would be a no headphone park. Ron
 
Well, you know there is silver there and probably alot of old good coins.If you are going after the deep ones, the ones with the faint signals, you are going to have to use headphones. As you become more familiar with the machine you will learn to "hear" the very low signal. Sometimes it is so faint that you are just digging a "hunch"but it's there, and those are the ones that pay off
 
Erikk Thats what I like about the CZ7A the signal isn't full on or off like most of the newer detectors. The faint signals was the sweet spot for the old TR units because 99.9% of the time it was a old coin. Thanks Ron
 
I talked to a local guy who uses a CZ70 pro as his main machine. I asked for his advice this is his reply:

"At my DFX hunting buddy's family old farmsite, I brought my two Fishers at the time-CZ-70 and the C$. He really wanted to use my CZ-70 but since I was using it he picked the C$ up and tried it -and did great with it before my eyes. He asked me to come over and see what my CZ-70 would do over a target. I heard nothing even at a maxed out sensitivity of 6. He digs an 8-10 inch deep silver Roosie dime
that my machine did not hear. We then go to a different site where
he's digging 10 inch wheaties that my machine did not hear. He was simply listening for repeatable high tone signals. After about 6 inches, the EXII signal starts to break up and the ID becomes inconsistent. The C$ signals are loud and repeatable at 8-10 inches..or more. The depth gauge is like 1-99-it's a number scale which I never liked compared to my CZ-70 which gives you 2 inch increments and is right on. He also dug a wheatie under a
piece of foil which really impressed him since he could hear the tone
under the foil. I then took him to my 1838 honeyhole farmsite in Richmond Hts. He literally sets the coil on the ground that I've been over numerous times with my CZ-70 and digs a semi-key date 1870 IH but not much else that day. I found a nice 1893 IH along with a few wheats. He then bought it from me and hunted his own 1940's yard. He calls me about a week later all excited. He apparently dug a bunch of deep wheaties and several Mercs that he never heard with all of his other machines...in his own yard."

So I just bought a coinstrike. I'll let you know how it works out.

Mirage
 
as far as the depth reading using numbers, it's a might more accurate then the measuring scale most others use.
 
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