they have a good base's with the vaq and tejon to do something. maybe take the vaquero, put a small id number readout on it so you do not have thumb the disc knob. kinda what the nokta fors core has. water proof it to 10-15 feet. so you can hunt next to or in streams, rivers and not worry about it getting wet. have the option to use headphones or not. be able to use it on wet salt sand or even in the surf effectively. price it around 7-8 hundred dollars. no need for multi tones, depth indicator, GPS, a cup holder, etc. a 10-15 year warranty on it, which would still be the best in the business. surely this should not be hard for a company who designs and makes metal detectors. but instead, all they have managed to come up with is a reinvented coil and change the color of a few models in the past 8-10 years. come on, people are loosing interest with them as a company. just a handful of die hard fans is not going to keep them in business and with their lack of communication with the customers they have now, what are they expecting from us. with no facebook page updates in nearly 2 years, no interest in their brand groups either. in the forums, when the do come on, we get scolded like kids for wanting a little info after all this time. and we suppose to have the confidence in them to actually come out with a new model that they said they are coming out with years ago? sorry but, what are they possibly thinking there. it's nuts. does this make sense to anyone else except me?