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Hunting etiquette- Seeking your input

BARKER said:
Hi bda; Remember; To tame a bear use honey.!!!! :biteme:

I'm a big fan of the iron fist in the velvet glove 'technique'.:heh: Sometimes you tame the bear with honey and sometimes you just bait him with the honey and then blast him in the head.:super:

Gett'er Done,

BDA:cool:
 
OH ITS ON! IT WOULD BE LIKE STAR WARS, ONLY USING DETECTORS INSTEAD OF LIGHT SABER. LOL. just joking! i find only the new hunters do that. If it looks like someone who has been hunting for a while, then they are rude!
 
Hi bda + jimmy jam; I like the right hook approach myelf and WILL use it. 23 years at sea; no wusss here. i will ask first then swing with the stars so to speak. i hate 'intentional ignorance.!! :punch: later. PEACE:RONB :super:
 
I would say just move on. I have had 2 run ins with other detectors although it really bothered me that day I just chalk it up to lesson learned. Now I just wave to them and if they gesture like they are up for some small talk I stop other wize just move on. I am as competitive as the best of them but I'm there for fun not a fight. I am not afraid to fight just alittle out of practice :starwars: but don't push it. Good luck.
 
Just went back to read this older post and replies are still coming in, that's great.

I have never had a confrontation with another detectorist. I do agree that it is not worth getting into a fight.

I do agree that after storms, the beach can get crowded and manners can start to wane.

Surfline
 
Yes its a lot like fishing isnt it.

You get on to something good and the vultures start circling.

Had it happen to me yesterday. I was walking along an obvious trough, narrow enough to swing the whole width in one go so I was working toward the low point it emptied into, right out the front of an old beachside pub.

So this guy comes down from the carpark, sees me, sees where Im heading and just bee-lines for the trough area and starts working it, not 20m from where I am and right in front of me in the direction Im heading.

I didnt say anything because Im just not that petty. I turned and headed off in another direction and decided to leave it for later.

Another reason I was cool with him being so rude was..... he was swinging his coil like he was trying to swat flies, flies on his SHOULDERS! The only time his coil got close to the ground was for 1/2 a second 3" in front of his feet. The rest of the time it was pointing at the horizon or the sky (Im not making this up).

He covered the area in about 3 minutes (I figured there was 20-30 mins of work there). I let him have his fun, waited till he moved off and went back.

After about 10 mins in the trough I had 25c in 3 coins and a silver toe ring.

Karma is a bitch isnt it ? :detecting:
 
n/t
 
Things you could do to keep people away from where you are detecting....warning.....these can get you into trouble.

1. Detecting naked.
2. Jumping up and down and screaming shark at the top of your lungs.
3. Walk up and hug other detectorists telling them you love them.
4. Urinating on their machines and scoops.
5. Hitting others with your scoop.
6. Wear camo and tell everyone you are looking for land minds that were lost there during the war.
7. Walk up to other detectorists and tell them you will work for food.
8. Wear a gun out in the open....like an AR 15.
9. Pay kids to follow other detectorists around bugging them by asking all kinds of questions
10. Use Minelab machines. Once they see those, they figure there is nothing else to be found.
 
I was recently on a beach with a new cut and looking around trying to find a place to start from and two others came along from the other direction and as always I spoke and then started back looking. I advised my wife of the two gentlemen and this is a loose term for them and how rude they were. They were trying to run me not only off this beach but trying to send me miles away to Sebastian Inlet which i know where it is and what it is. I live two miles from the beach here and frequent it pretty much somewhere in a ten mile section around me. I passed it off as nothing more than an acquaintance I did not care to have.
I was back a week later on the same cut and had been thru and was working my way back and here the same two come again. I as before spoke one acknowledged and the other never even looked up and we passed withing distance of noticeable reading on my machine. I was getting ready to leave as tide was incoming for over 1.5 hrs and it was getting higher by the minute. As i passed the last man that did not speak I got a hit and then another and then another. nothing but coins on all but close to his path and should have been picked by him, I had already picked up a Cheap Gold ring behind them the last time and it just further acknowledged to me never give up on area covered by someone in front of you. Maybe on that day your machine is more in touch and will find what others have gone over and never let anything go if you receive a tone dig.

These are the only ones I have ever had a negative time with and find most others are very helpful as I am just starting and actually take delight in assisting you. The last time I was in Ft Lauderdale I had one gentleman who had been Mding for a very long time took me into the water and showed me how to locate and dig items. Overall there are more good than bad out there. One $%^ will make you forget the hundreds of other good ones you find as you remember them more for the negative impact they have on you.
Thanks
 
I tried to help out a young couple with a brand new ACE250 yesterday but when I approached them they ran away.:shrug: I don't think I look that menacing in a wetsuit but I guess they thought I was going to give them a hard time, something I've never done to another hunter. Seeing as the coil was installed backwards and the top of his swing could have blinded a small child, I would have to assume that he knows what he is doing and just wanted to be left alone to find some loot.:razz:
Some people you just can't help.
 
I did something like that bda, and showed him how, he now has an etrac and i have competition, he no longer rings either :ranting:
 
Hi Folks; I agree with D - ALL THE ABOVE.!! I just cant help liking Steve from Ohio's #s 7 and 8. But on #6 I'd wear camo, go up and tell them your a Navy Seal on Special Ops and they look like a good practice target.!!! :surprised: :usan: If that don't get them nothing will. :ninja: :rofl:
Of Course we here on the Forum can laugh about it because we "know" better. My only point is if you are, or feel threatened "call the Police."
Why put yourself in danger or get in trouble over some idiot?? :devil: "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." :rolleyes: PEACE:RONB :biggrin:
 
Last year I had a guy cut right in front of me while in the water, then swung his coil as fast as he could zig zag a pattern to make sure he hit every area of a swimming hole before I could. The laughs were on him, he left empty handed, and I took my time and came back with the loot. A nice heavy mens 14 k band and a large silver mens ring went home with me. Those jerks are trying to play the "If I can get there first" game, I don't have time to compete, I am treasure hunting and not speed hunting. I take my time and hunt with brains, not brawn, not speed. Don't fall into the trap of trying to cover your area before anyone else gets close. Most of the speeders don't have a clue and don't have the right machines anyway. Take your time, dig good deep targets, keep your eye on the prize you seek, ignore, ignore, ignore the idiots that try to wreck your outing and our great sport, stay on your target and play your kind of game, not theirs! Good hunting and good riddance to speed hunters.
 
If i'm not sure and i'm in a strange place with other hunters and they were there first... if we get close I ask... . Tell them that you don't want to infringe on them and ask if they are hunting a certain area or grid today, ask them their bounds if they were there first. If not, if you were there first.. just do what feels right. If people get too close to me, I move generally along. There is always something else somewhere else... or maybe I stay there and move closer to them if I was there first. It is all accordingto how they act if I was there first. I actually don't mind hunting close to someone else as long as they don't mind but if I am moving in an obvious direction it bugs me it they move into it in front of me when they weren't already going that way.
I try to give people the benefit of the doubt, a lot of people really don't know how to act. They are totally self centered and if they weren't taught at home you have to remember, this society no longer teaches honorable behavior nor does it expect it.

Last week some guy at Publix cussed out a young lady in the ice cream isle because she said "pardon me" in order to get to the door to get what she wanted. "Get off the f...ing phone bi...ch... etc etc... she was scared. This guy was about 6.5' tall and she was maybe 110 lbs.

I don't get some people nowadays... 130 yrs or so ago he may well have gotten an extra hole in his head from someone who didn't like the way he treated a lady. People need to get a clue, being rude, presumptious, or thoughtless in general isn't ok.

This thread has gotten me in a mood... maybe someone will try to break into my house tonight and I can get the kinks worked out. :starwars:

I've been thinking about getting one of these: http://www.cabelas.com/p-0058399.shtml oh, and it's on SALE too!! What do you think two .58 cals, two 20 guage, or a 20 guage and a .50 cal ?? These need no liscense, are completely legal sawed off shotguns and you never know when you may need to shoot a tiger... (this is a great video) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jojNzvtP6LY

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Julien

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I usually don't come to this forum but I followed a link over to the above thread about some jerks hunting where someone's house had fallen over on the shore and then stating that were not trying to help the people who lost everything in the disaster... no they say it as an opportunity to "treasure hunt". http://www.findmall.com/read.php?26,1134163,1134163#msg-1134163

After reading that I was really POed. Then I scrolled down and read this thread... by this time of day I had a glass of wine and well... you know.

Sorry if it seemed a little over the top, I don't advocate shooting people... well, not many people. I do love the tiger video and I do want a Howdah though!


I don't get to the beach much, most of my hunting is either in an old yard or park or in the woods, usually with one or two people. We'll call each other over to check some signal but we usually stay at least 25' apart and try to not intersect. If I seem I am heading into that, I begin a curve or just turn.

On the rare occasion I get to the beach, if I see another hunter, you bet I am going to get around to coming over to say hello but I am not going to come try to hunt beside you. I'll be carrying my detector either over my shoulder or at hip level and it'll be off, I would never "swing my way up to you". I am just glad to meet someone else in the hobby, I want to see what you've found, what kind of machine you're using, and just have a couple of minutes of "hello". If I want to hunt an area anywhere near where you are i''ll ask if it's ok first. I never dreamed that it might bother someone for me to say hello...so if you tell me to get lost, i'll understand. :twodetecting:

Julien
 
Things like this make me wonder what this person does to a grassy area if they do manage to find something... this is probably the guy who left a muddy spot 1 foot wide and 3 foot long at the park. I don't know how much time I have spent filling other peoples holes and trying to fix damage to some lawn. I just don't understand.

These people are everywhere. I was at my favorite park last summer and up walks this guy, late 20s and his chubby little wife. He was carryingthe MXT he had just bought and she was carrying a full sized construction sort of shovel. He walks up and says, "Do you know where we can find some Civil War relics"? I told him that if I did I would be there but that anywhere in the area... you had a chance. Then he asked about the old Victorian house next door, said he had gotten permission to hunt there. We (I was with a buddy) told him he could try but we had already hunted it. He looked a little crestfallen but turned the MXT on and started off in that direction at a good clip. They stopped and dug one hole, disappeared over into the yard and were back in their pickup truck leaving in 15 minutes. I think they really thought virgin sites were all around and hunting was easy. They were going to make some easy money treasure hunting. There are relics in that park and in that yard but one day you may find three and the next you may find none... and you have to work at it... then the next week that big muddy spot showed up in one of the nicer parts of the park. I wonder if this is the same sort of people who steal copper wiring...

Julien
 
I would like to try three of your ideas... detect naked, carry a gun, and use a Minelab... well maybe just wear a thong but i'd take my cialis first!!

I'd be sure to offend someone... probably already did, laff!

J
 
Was at Myrtle beach Saw a older fellow in his 70's up ahead of me. headed north hunting with a minelab soverign as I got to where he had been digging there
was a bottle cap pulltab or other pice of trash laying by almost every hole he had dug and. I walked through this mine field picking up his trash as I cam to them.
Wanted to say something to him real bad but held my thoughts to my self. I do not care how close you hunt as long as our detectors are not cross talking. In the wet sand that the tide will cover soon I do not care if you cover your holes or not. The kids around are leaving holes that you could lose a car in. But please If you are going to detect pick up your trash you dig and do not leave it buy your hole in view of every beach goer walking by and for you or me to have to dig up again as soon as the tide covers it up again. Thinking back should have said something but thought yu can not teach a old dog new tricks. I am easy going and like to take the time to talk to other folks detecting on the beach but this made my blood boil.

Jason
 
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