how is it.....

[redsumit]

that when i go out into my yard w/ the quattro i find not much of anything. BUT low n behold when i take out my wife's x terra 30 i find all kinds of stuff including coins rite where i was w/ the quattro? and yes i went rite over the same spot w/ the quattro and i got nothing. switch quattro 2 all metal and if i get any signal its -10 or -9 but broke up where the coins were. these were not freshly buried coins, just a good spot where there is high traffic and possibly yard sales. what gives? how can an xterra 30 out perform a quattro? and yes w/ the quattro i swing it very slow like it should be. as a matter of fact if i slow down anymore i wont need the MD because ill be back in time itself to just collect the coin rite after it was dropped. thanx

 

[backslyder]

It sounds to me like your Quatro either isn't working right (which I think would be a slim chance, but possible) or, you don't have something set right. I can't imagine an x terra outperforming a Quatro. Keep reading and practicing Andy Sabishs's book, or be let us know what your settings were when you tried that. Marc.

 

[John (Australia)]

As I do not know what coil you are using on either detector I am assuming the Xterra has an eliptical coil and you are using the stock coil on the quattro. If you are using the stock coil and a high sensitivity setting on the quattro and the area has a lot of trash that may explain why the xterra is finding the coins. If you don't have access to a smaller coil for the quattro try lower sensitivity settings and run the quattro over targets found by the xterra and see if they show up.
John

 

[backslyder]

redsumit-I'm so intrigued by your problem with the Quatro, I felt I needed to respond again on your delma, which I still don't understand. When you say you get a -9 where the coins were, implies that the coins aren't there any more, and there might be some iron there instead and that's why your getting a -9,. All I can say is I just took my Quatro out to the beach in an area with black mineralized sand, and found a quarter, a dime, and a few pennys, with a solid tone and the number on the quarter was a 37 or so, the dime was almost as high and the penny was about a 34. I had no background noise from the mineralized sand, probably because I ground balanced it to that sand, like Andy says in the book. Hold the coil on the ground, don't move it while it's ground balancing. I apologize if you already know all this, but I'm at a loss to wonder how an extera could find coins that a Quatro couldn't even detect. Just trying to help. I've never used an extera, but my Quatro, has found pennys in wet sand at a foot deep before. I'm at a loss to know why yours wont find stuff. Marc.

 

[redsumit]

your at a loss? hahahaha so am i. hmm where do i start. oh yeah this past summer i would have it on coin n jewelry and id get a 34 or something in that area of a coin hi pitch and id keep checkin it just 2 be sure, then id put it into all metal mode and id get a negative w/ a hi pitch (cross saved mode) which to me means hi ferrous. junk iron. couldnt figure it out so id go back 2 C/J mode and it was either gone or broken signal. now i didnt move i search the same spot. another thing that happens is in C/J mode, i dont use just coin mode 2 much, i get a good signal then its gone and i havent even dug it up yet (because i understand diggin it up ruins the halo effect). now i like 2 coin shoot, im after the old coins ive found some coins even some weaties but thats not what im really after. in 5 years ive found 2 old coins. the rest of the other coins ive found probably count 2 about 15 or 20 coins. not a very good track record for 5 years. it just seems 2 love findin junk and is allergic 2 the good stuff. but yes i was in my yard w/ the quattro and a month latter w/ xterra and found coins w/ it rite where i know i was w/ quattro. some times quattro acts normal then it just flips a switch and i cant figure out what its tellin me at all. granted i like 2 think im still learning but just when i get something small figured out it proves me wrong and im back 2 square 1 and confused. any ideas? thanx

 

[bubber]

Ive had a Quattro for a couple years, found a penny so far, dig all kinds of signals, nothing there. Have Sabishe's book, read it a lot of times, have 2 different coils besides the factory coil. Lots of people say it's a great machine, wish I could say the same.

 

[freeze12]

You read My post/response(quattro: hardly any posts....why????) regarding the Quattro..I guess i'm not the only unhappy owner of a paperweight!

 

[jjwest]

I've had a Quattro for two years. Initially, I hated it so much that I purchased a Whites DFX within a month of the Quattro purchase and thought of selling the Quattro. I stayed with the Quattro and it is my first choice when MD. Learning how the Quattro works is easy. Look back at old postings how other people made their Quattro work especially those of a lady named Golden in Australia. Smaller coil, high as you can run manual sensitivity, quality headset(to hear targets at low volumn because of all metal mode), high density, all metal mode, and slow sweep when a target is detected.

One of my favorite places to MD is a old military fort that has been hunted by hundreds of snow birds over thirty years. All the easy stuff has been found but I've learned to hunt in trash and find military buttons all the time. Do I like to hunt in trash, no. But that is where the good stuff is now and the Quattro can find it. The only setting I ever change now is the sensitivity.

Recently at a Gold Club(another hobby) meeting a new member told me that he had a Quattro and did I like mine? I knew exactly where he was coming from. A few weeks later we had a MD outing. He tried my settings, listened to my recommendations and now likes his Quattro and is going to keep it. Maybe I should not have shown him so much as I may have been able to get a super deal from a disenchanted Quattro owner.

 

[gravedigger]

one year 6months with quattro "i like it" Finds are getting better and better. Lots of creekside hunting cental buckeye state...practice..practice

 

[redsumit]

ok i was out the other day w/ quattro (and maybe i shouldnt say this for fear of jinxin it) but it seems like it mite be ok (even after dropping it a couple of times last year on the ground). i think maybe there were 3 things against me last year. 1 i was so frantic i must not have had a clear head and was confused. 2 the other day was the 1st time id been out w/ quattro since last summer, so i think i was able 2 actually figure out how to slow down the sweeps, WAY down. and 3rd and IMHO last summer was VERY dry. the ground here has tons of water in it now from melting snow and lots of rain. BUT i tried a clad nickel on its side and it didnt pick it up or if it did (cant remember) it was just barley. i put it flat and it picked it rite up. now how am i suppose 2 find something buried and on its side if it didnt pick it out on the surface of ground? go figure.

 

[backslyder]

Redusmit, I'm not sure how to answer this post, because I can hear your frustration, and I wish I was more up to snuff on the exact workings of the Quatro, but, if it's working correctly, I'm sure that if you ground balance correctly, put it in "coin and jewelry" or even all metal mode, and you get a positive reading, especially anything above 30, I'd dig it, and it would almost have to be a penny, quarter, dime or something in that general area. All I know is if it's working right, a nickel should be around a 14 or 15 or so, and all the clad coins and even good wheatbacks and silver should be somewhere above 30. I'm not sure where your "going wrong here", unless the detector is really "mal functioning" in some way. Marc. (backslyder).

 

[Golden]

I can't understand why anyone would just give up on this machine. When I first bought it and took it out on the goldfields where I lived, I thought it was broken too. The signals and tones didn't make any sense to me. And I was detecting the worst possible ground to start with for a learner, highly mineralised and high iron infested trash, not to mention the different types of soil and ground conditions from rocky to clay, but heh, I lived there so what was I to do but persevere. So, I've had the Quattro for close to 4 years now and it's paid for itself twice over from the stuff I've found, and some of what I've sold my treasures for. I've also found a heap of rusted iron artifacts or relics, stuff that some people just might have walked away from upon first initially hearing the signal for the target. All I can say is, if there is nothing wrong with your Quattro, then as with any detector, it's up to you to learn it's full capabilities and put in the time and effort. I did, and it paid off, and if mine broke down and became unuseable (probably through wear and tear in my case) I wouldn't hesitate to buy another to replace it. That's how confident I am in this machine.
Here's a few pics of just some of my finds that gave iffy signals.
HH Golden

 

[Ratman]

I've had a great time with my Quattro since I first purchased it in May of 2006 . Came here and read all I could on it and experimented with it too . I run All Metal no disc with sens between 14 to 18 and High Trash Density . No other adjustments needed in the parks that I hunt here in Los Angeles . My finds for this year 128 silver coins , 571 Wheat cents , over 20 pieces of silver jewelry and various other doo-dads . Not to mention over $200 dollars in clad coins . If the Quattro is such a rotten apple then how is it that I found my treasures ? Three things Practice Practice Practice ! Here's a couple pics of some of my finds . Pic # 1 Silver jewelry . Pic # 2 Silver coins . Enjoy !

 

[JT in Virginia]

I love my Quattro. I've had it for 2 years. I think its a great machine. Here are some pics of some finds.

 

[backslyder]

Redsumit, all I can cay on that one is, try picking up a coin on it's side with any other detector, besides a Quatro, and I think you'll still have a tough time. From what I've read from Charles Garrett, an expert detector designer, the eddi currents and "whatever that stuff is", doesn't have the surface area to make the detector respond, when it's "seeing" a coin on it's side. When you think about it, that's a pretty slim area for the detector to see. The larger the surface area, the better the response from "any" detector, is what I'm seeing here. Try turning the detector at kind of an angle while sweepiing, maybe that would hit the surface of a coin like that better ( I don't know that for sure), but I'm pretty darn sure about the surface area thing. Marc.

 

[redsumit]

hey backslider thanks. hey i tried something last nite, had me an idea for just that. what i did was, the shaft that the 10.5 coil is mounted 2, i pulled it out completely of the upper shaft turned it 45 degrees and put it back in the upper shaft, locked it and now all i have to do is swing it up and down instead of side to side to get it to go at an angle to the ground. next what i gotta do is get a platypus coil. because its egg shaped it will let the center strip get a little closer to the ground than the circular stock coil does at the angle.

 

[backslyder]

You know, I'm partially just trying to keep this Quatro site alive here, but honest to God, I am in complete agreement with all the posts above in response to redusmit's original post about Quatro verus extera, and all the problems he's been having. Redusmit, or any one else who is disgrunteled with the Quatro, my hand is on the Bible on this one,,,,,,,. THIS IS ONE OF THE FINEST DETECOTRS THAT MONEY CAN BUY. I swear, that in the hands of a good detectorist, like Golden, I'd put it up against any Explorer, or DFX, or any other detector in the world, and I'll bet it would either keep up with them or in the case of the Explorer, maybe fall behind a little (only because the Explorer has two numeric readings), but I'll bet they'd be neck in neck or in many cases the Quatro would beat them hands down. Even from my own semi-limited experience, this is one hell of a detector. I've found a penny one time in wet beach sand at 1 foot deep. It discriminates very acuratly between different metals, many times to within a few numbers of the stated numeric reading. It is very accurate on coin sized objects as far as depth reading, and I've had almost no problem, and I mean extremely little problems on mineralized sand or salt water. This bad boy just glides over salt water. If these other people and I didn't really believe this and weren't speaking from true experience, I don't think youd hear this many acolades about the Quatro. I know we're pretty fanatical about it, but for me, at least, it's the truth. I've never even used anything close to what this detector can do, IF IT'S WORKING PROPERLY, AND YOU'VE SET THE ADJUSTMENST CORECTLY, which of course just comes through knowledge of the instrument, reading Andy's book, and the owner's manual. Marc Trainor.

 

[Golden]

Here are a few more shot of my finds with a Quattro, plus our detecting arsenal, note: A Quattro!!!! (the four bars is for you John!) (minus a second Excalibur that's coming soon to our family!)
Golden

 

[redsumit]

hey backslider, read my January 15th post. im kinda treading back on my 1st initial thoughts about quattro. i think about 6 or 7 months away from using quattro was a good thing. because when i went out w/ it the other day i seemed 2 have a clearer head and actually slowed down. i think maybe b4 i was going way 2 fast. in a big rush 2 find all kinds of goodies in a big hurry. with that in mind it was very very dry this past summer here also. thanx

 

[JT in Virginia]

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