Holy Frijoles! bad ground

[LittleJohn]

Texas Ranger is from the UK......really? And he is going to describe the best method for hunting in mineralized ground with a 4x6 double d shooter coil? Seriously?

 

[Rob (IL)]

Well, time to move on. Thanks Derek for an interesting post.

 

[Downdeep]

 

[Larry (IL)]

I think his name is Kurttam and we used to know him as Themarshall. He likes to pretend that he knows what he is talking about.

 

[texasranger]

I have that coil. Do you think it would pick up the bullets at a foot in that ground? I know it hasn't picked up a quarter at a foot in my yard.

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Hello Derek.

It's been a busy week on the domestic work front here, but I've downed tools and having a peek at the forum.

Do you really expect an answer to the quoted text? .....You Do?.....Then a simple reply is sufficient......."Not a snowball in hells' chance"

I know you are a good detectorist and sensible about the principles involved...( I do read your posts)......

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Now, have you given any thought to the benefits of ANY smaller sized search he\d than the stock 10" DD ?

Remember, we were offering thoughts for the lousy ground you experienced, where a coin was barely detectable at 3 inches.

The SHOOTER would have ripped that out with ease...and some to spare.

DEPTH is not the goal in on such a site, but rather REDUCING GROUND EFFECT and NON-FERROUS TARGET DEGRADATION BY ADJACENT FERROUS TRASH.

THE SHOOTER WILL DO THAT.....and in the better ground, located the larger calibre bullets to very respectable depths, dependent on target size, attitude and shape.

The fact that the site is vast...600 acres.....is not the problem under discussion.

10 inch diameter or 6 inch diameter.....if the bigger coil is so overwhelmed by the ground, then you are probably wasting 70% of you time and 80% of your energy chasing iron?

Some of the other replies indicate to me that the writers didn't comprehend the words that were written.

i.e.

Find a productive area, and using the small coil, work it to death.......Simple, and even corroborated by one reader...LittleJohn.....

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As Bob suggested, lets leave that one in your capable hands to sort out.

Went out today with my V3 and the Shooter, just to remind myself of the sheer joy of its ease of use and power when applied in a demanding environment.

It was a wooded dale with a small meandering stream littered with decades of minute trash etc.

As kids we would see who could jump the gaps without falling on our rses and then having to walk home seven miles soaking wet.

A favorite, quiet location away from the maddening crowds. A playground from the past.

Two hours of peace, in the flickering sunlight of early Spring.


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[LittleJohn]

You just dont get it dude. It wasn't trash he was dealing with, it was mineralized ground.....that means "very iron rich soil"...not "trash" Again...Derek's post isn't about the trash...but the mineralization that he had to deal with in the soil.

 

[Downdeep]

Simple fact is that if I had used a smaller coil with less depth I would have gotten no finds. End of story.

It matters not if the coil excels beyond belief in any kind of ground if the targets are twice as deep as the limits of that coil.

 

[LittleJohn]

and that's why the super 12 is on the way.....you rascal!

 

[Downdeep]

Well, that 12 will work well around here but is a big no no in that ground in VA. Thats too big AND concentric instead of double d. Looking forward to getting it though.

 

[hang7575]

Just got back from DIV and that wonderful Va red dirt site ,was 4000 acres and 480 MDers.Lots and lots of pulse machines and that is the way to go in this stuff. Did ok with finds had my 14 year old grandson with me and was helping him . He did manage to find 2 bullets which were his first CW bullets. My best find was the silver plated CW era mechanical pencil first thing that I dug . Also got a nose piece from artillery shell with the threads for the fuse. And of course the standard bullets

 

[Downdeep]

Good stuff!! Were you using the V or did you jump over to a pulse unit? Just out of curiosity, if you were using the V, were you still using the settings we've found to be best down there or did you change it up a little?

 

[hang7575]

No used the V same single freq 7.5 All metal not mixed mode ,no disc, 12.5 high band I did learn that nails down there will give you a solid +95 then jump to +83 nail everytime. Also some of the bullets I had to kick the dirt clod around sometimes twice to get it to read right even out of the ground. Curtis got CS frame buckle and a breastplate. Good hunt.