HELP with Nickels- v/buffalo/war/shield co numbers !!!

[Elmy]

6 x 8 sef coil....I have the ultimate 13 ....but it was using the 6 x 8 sef....I have used the stock coil ...the ultimate ...and the 6 x 8 sef...

But i still have trouble with the 12 to 14 range for nickels with all of them on nickels.

 

[daddyflea]

6 x 8 sef coil....I have the ultimate 13 ....but it was using the 6 x 8 sef....I have used the stock coil ...the ultimate ...and the 6 x 8 sef...

But i still have trouble with the 12 to 14 range for nickels with all of them on nickels.

You may have an issue with your Machine. I have two Etracs and they are the same. Unless it is a very clean area I rarely dig 12-14 0r 12-12 unless it will hit 12-13 on at least one pass. I dig quite a few Nickles using this method. I like to dig 12-32 and above as well, which will get you some war nickles.

 

[Elmy]

Great information...daddyflea... appreicate your posts to help me out.....my etrac was bought in 2013 and has been used most of the time i go detecting.

I guess dave the junky has the best answer for me which was dig 10 to 16 co....and dig the deeper signals !

I know g4e mentioned his war nickels almost always come in at 17 to 19 co....he only lives a dozen miles away from me...probably similar type soil...

So I have 10 to 19 to program in.....what a load of trash those numbers cover !!!!!!

 

[Mcdetect]

Also note that the etrac will give lower than expected numbers for a very worn or corroded coin. I believe because there is less metal left than normal.

 

[Elmy]

OK...that explains the lower than expected nickel co numbers ...thanks for that info MCDETECT !

I know Indians will do that as will seated dimes too for me....especially in a farmed field where fertilizer comes into play....Good Info for all coins !

 

[Explorer.se]

Hey guys Dave The Junkys acct has been deactivated? I tried PMing him.

 

[Mark kus]

Sorry to tell you but Nickles are easy on the ETrac. Dig 12-14 and you will get them. War Nickles not so much. Some War nickles will read as high as 12-32 depending on the Mint. Look at my past post about War Nickles. You will find that several guys did tests that confirmed my findings. I will see if I can find the Link.

That's why I dig those nickel "sound" they have a definite ring to them

 

[Goes4ever]

I sent you a message..........deep nickels are all over the place. I only disc out 25FE and down..........top ALL open, greatly helps getting nickels as they bounce a LOT

 

[Elmy]

Thanks to all who have responded to my question about nickels....I think I may have come up with a solution for finding these bouncing vdi rascals....

I will need time to test out my theory so bear with me and continue to post the vdi numbers so I can use them as a reference.....

Most believe that anywhere from 8 to 19 co.....which is far too many trash targets for me to dig per good targets....I also now know that simply a 12 and 13 will produce
allot of good nickel targets...but it seems to miss the older and deeper v's and buffalo's...in a farmed field where targets are plowed up and come near the surface a 12 and 13 works great.....but in a yard or park and such, these numbers seem to miss the majority of the targets.

 

[Gannon]

Good info! My nickle finds are terrible. I've got some work to do on the Etrac

 

[Elmy]

CONCLUSION.....

To quote daddyflea ........( Sorry to tell you but Nickles are easy on the ETrac. Dig 12-14 and you will get them. War Nickles not so much.)

From what I have tested and dug...daddy flea was right on......only difference in nickels was when there was trash in or near the hole or another coin in the hole with the nickel,
Then the numbers came in as goes4ever stated (nickels are all over the place and they bounce around a LOT ! )

If you hit a nickel all alone in the ground with nothing near it to effect the numbers, it will or should come up 12 to 14 on the etrac screen....except for war nickels...and that is a whole different story......Hopefully this post has helped a few nickel hunters out there.....Believe me...they can drive you crazy trying to figure them out !!

HH

ELMY

 

[Goes4ever]

If you hit a nickel all alone in the ground with nothing near it to effect the numbers, it will or should come up 12 to 14 on the etrac screen....except for war nickels...and that is a whole different story......Hopefully this post has helped a few nickel hunters out there.....Believe me...they can drive you crazy trying to figure them out !!

HH

ELMY

this part I quoted you on I strongly disagree with. I have dug MANY DEEP nickels, V's, buffs and shields that were NOT 12-14. many have been 01 on the FE side and the CO side they can bounce from 08 to 16,17,18
when I had a tight disc pattern i hardly ever dug deep nickels, when I opened it up to just disc out 25 FE and down I dug more deep nickels. If you want easy nickels sure you can dig the 12-13 easy ones. But if you want to get the ones others passed up, you have to willing to chase the odd numbers and yes you will get a LOT of trash. But I tell myself everytime I chase those low conductors I am not only giving my chance for a deep old nickel, but I am always greatly increasing my chance for gold jewelry

 

[daddyflea]

If you hit a nickel all alone in the ground with nothing near it to effect the numbers, it will or should come up 12 to 14 on the etrac screen....except for war nickels...and that is a whole different story......Hopefully this post has helped a few nickel hunters out there.....Believe me...they can drive you crazy trying to figure them out !!

HH

ELMY

this part I quoted you on I strongly disagree with. I have dug MANY DEEP nickels, V's, buffs and shields that were NOT 12-14. many have been 01 on the FE side and the CO side they can bounce from 08 to 16,17,18
when I had a tight disc pattern i hardly ever dug deep nickels, when I opened it up to just disc out 25 FE and down I dug more deep nickels. If you want easy nickels sure you can dig the 12-13 easy ones. But if you want to get the ones others passed up, you have to willing to chase the odd numbers and yes you will get a LOT of trash. But I tell myself everytime I chase those low conductors I am not only giving my chance for a deep old nickel, but I am always greatly increasing my chance for gold jewelry

I think you are absolutely correct using the Stock Coil. This is why I don't like it. My Pattern actually has a real narrow opening under conductive 12 for Jewelry. Never had a 12-8 be a Nickle but several rings.

 

[Goes4ever]

If you hit a nickel all alone in the ground with nothing near it to effect the numbers, it will or should come up 12 to 14 on the etrac screen....except for war nickels...and that is a whole different story......Hopefully this post has helped a few nickel hunters out there.....Believe me...they can drive you crazy trying to figure them out !!

HH

ELMY

this part I quoted you on I strongly disagree with. I have dug MANY DEEP nickels, V's, buffs and shields that were NOT 12-14. many have been 01 on the FE side and the CO side they can bounce from 08 to 16,17,18
when I had a tight disc pattern i hardly ever dug deep nickels, when I opened it up to just disc out 25 FE and down I dug more deep nickels. If you want easy nickels sure you can dig the 12-13 easy ones. But if you want to get the ones others passed up, you have to willing to chase the odd numbers and yes you will get a LOT of trash. But I tell myself everytime I chase those low conductors I am not only giving my chance for a deep old nickel, but I am always greatly increasing my chance for gold jewelry

I think you are absolutely correct using the Stock Coil. This is why I don't like it. My Pattern actually has a real narrow opening under conductive 12 for Jewelry. Never had a 12-8 be a Nickle but several rings.

I haven't used the stock coil in like 3 years

 

[Elmy]

I dug a 1945 war nickel today with my 6 x 8 sef coil....
In the hole it was a 9-13....out of the hole it was 12-15....12-16.

So maybe a 12 to 14 co does work for my etrac.

 

[Goes4ever]

I dug a 1945 war nickel today with my 6 x 8 sef coil....
In the hole it was a 9-13....out of the hole it was 12-15....12-16.

So maybe a 12 to 14 co does work for my etrac.

normally in the hole they read the higher number for me, neverhad one come in like a reg nickel

 

[Elmy]

I have also had some Indian Head Pennies do that for me.....Could be my etrac but some deeper coins read lower than normal...
some mercs also read 43 or lower in the hole and 45 out. This also happened with my dfx.....especially Indians (not Fatties)...could be the
coil was not the original coil from minelab that it was setup for also this nickel was not worn either.There were no other targets in the hole that would effect
the numbers...steady threshold over the hole after the coin was removed. Honestly ,G4E , I don't really know.

 

[Delta Digger]

My E-Trac loves Nickels. Nickels come in around 12-13 to 12-15 in my soil.

 

[Elmy]

delta digger....Yep...In a trashy park I've been pulling my share of jefferson nickels with just a 12 to 13 co and a 9 to 17 fe pattern
This is a modern park from 1972 so I don't expect to pull buffalo's, v's, or shields from it...so this pattern works well here.

 

[MarkCZ]

DUH !...never thought of digging only the deeper signals....got to try that !
Thanks Dale ! Sometimes the obvious solution takes years to figure out.

You can often times somewhat date your detecting area as far as depth at layers, now of course you have to account for things like,
areas that have been filled in or dug out,
areas up close to large trees where the roots change the depth of target.

But, here is the idea,
Beavertail beverage tabs came to be in 1965, there were used until 1975, then came the square stay tabs.

In our city park the beavertail tabs range in around the 3-1/2" - to 4-1/2"
Square tabs above that.
Later silver will be at the bottom of the beavertail tabs.
The very old fresh drops of the 20's are around the 8" range.

Mark