Hello White's Electronics........

[Anonymous]

Please put 2 frequencies and the MXT style grip on the M6. That would make it close to perfect for me and sure beat other detectors where you have to change the coil to change the frequency.

Andy,NM

 

[Larry (IL)]

Just get a DFX. You get all of that and sooooooo much more.

 

[willy]

row through a whole load of menus, always wonder just what your settings are and if they're killing your depth or enhancing it. You'd also get to spend more time fooling around with setting up the detector instead of digging up nasty, dirty coins. ...Willy.

 

[Dave Z]

Once you've got your programs saved,you just load and go.You don't have to reset everything everytime you turn your detector on.I have 4 programs saved but basically only use twne for trash and one for relics.Takes about 10 seconds to load ond go.I'm off hunting while most guys are still deciding where they want to turn their discrimination knob and set their volume,etc.

 

[willy]

Some hunters (me for example) like to change disc. adjustments on the fly; depending on local conditions. I have a QXT, which doesn't have nearly the number of menus as on the XLT/DFX, yet is still a pain in the @ss. Not knowing what was last changed and then rowing through the menus is an unwanted distraction. Also, if a person comes across some trash targets that, due to the large number in the ground, get notched out.. it's easy to forget that such has been done and continue hunting with those settings. That's one advantage of the Garrett GTI/GTAX/GTP/Ace detectors; you know what your most common settings are at a glance.. and NO, I don't have a Garrett VLF. It's the same deal (but better in some respects) with the knob style detectors; near instantaneous visual evaluation and quick adjustment. It's also helpful when hunting tough and variable ground to have a knob adjust for dealing with hotrocks, mineralization, decomposed iron patches, etc. There's also one other area where knobs are superior.. screen problems. What if something happens to the screen and it's not displaying info? With a menu driven, touch pad control system a person is totally hooped. Now, on the other hand, a detector with knobs & switches can still be used/adjusted as an audio only detector.. even if it has VID. Sure, the detector can be sent away to be fixed, but it's finding zero targets in the meantime. Even worse, what if a person is out in the boonies for a week or more? Talk about frustrating. ..Willy.

 

[clondike clad]

That is why I have the XL PRO as my main detector.
It is as deep as the XLT and I can change setting on the fly.
My next best detector is the new M6 and the more I use that monster the more I like it.

 

[crazyman]

I do have a digital menu driven detector that is really starting to grow on me though but the settings are minumal and is close to a turn on and go type detector.

 

[Pap]

I was going to let this go but

 

[Anonymous]

with 2 frequencies so i can choose the right frequency for the type of hunting i want to do and it would work better on saltwater beaches.
I like the "out of the box" performance of the M6 and it is sure one of the easiest to use high performance detectors. Even a beginner could use most of its power and features within hours. I am sure a DFX can do more for the guys who took the time to learn it.
I like it simple and powerful.

HH,
Andy

 

[Dave Z]

I acceppt everything and let my eyes and ears do the rejecting.A coin one edge will read lower.A coin lying in iron will read lower,etc.People who let their detectors do their discriminating for them leave a lot in the ground.But I do like that,cuz there's more for me.Dave

 

[willy]

Bleeding green eh? Check your facts buddy before spouting off. The only Garrett detector I have, at present, is an Infinium.. and that's a PI. My other two are Whites detectors.. a QXT and an MXT. As for mineralization, I'll state right off the bat that the ground tracking probably wouldn't handle the ground where I hunt. The MXT struggles there and it has what many believe to be the most advanced ground tracking on the market. Hot rock reject on the DFX/XLT/6000 is rather limited in what it does and even Whites warns against losing targets with it on. Overshoot responses & coil height are often better ways of disc'ing out hotrocks. When it comes to making multiple adjustments quickly, menu driven systems are pretty slow. Yup, there's often a "hot" key to go back to the last setting, but that isn't permanent. If a person is constantly flicking the G.Track on /off and adjusting disc. & whatnot, it becomes cumbersome. Like I said, I have a menu driven detector and those are things I don't like about it. Preset programs are all fine & good if a person always hunts the same places. If not.. well then they're SOL. Now, I don't know where you came up with the grudge part, but you're mighty free with the accusations. Could it be that you "think" you've got amazing psychic powers? Here's a hint.. don't give up your day job. ..Willy.

 

[Dave Z]

Hot rock reject on the 6000 and xlt.Didn't know they had one.I think you mean bottle cap reject.The dfx has a hot rock reject and i've haven't dug one since i bought the machine 5 years ago.The dfx has filter adjustments and two freqs which help it deal with the ground much better.Haven't found a site I couldn't hunt yet.Had a lot of sites I couldn't hunt with the Fisher Czs and single freq detectors.MOstly sites which had a lot of hot rocks and heavy iron mineralization.Someday,someone who has a dfx and knows how to use it is going to pay a little visit to some of your worked out sites and show you what you've missed.haha

 

[willy]

is a surprisingly capable detector that wasn't really promoted by Whites. If they'd allowed some user programs and a more informative display (something like the digital Garretts, Xterras, even BH) it would have been a lot better. It's strange that these manufacturors are soooo loath to upgrade models. Instead of software changes they'll slap on a new sticker or just throw the baby out with the bathwater. Software driven detectors shouldn't be too hard to reprogram. In fact, it was bruited about a while ago that the fact that they are software driven makes them emminently upgradeable. Take, for example, the Fisher Goldstrike. Just one little change would have made it a much better detector. Istead of making that change they pull it from the market. Is that sheer bloody minded stupidity or what? ...Willy.

 

[Pap]

Sorry if I upset you Willy. My point is that your opinion is just that; your opinion and I appreciate your opinion, just don

 

[willy]

the hotrock/bottlecap reject, my bad. According to the manual, though, it only acts as a variable disc. of +95. This can cause some targets to be lost. Anyone is welcome to hunt the sites which I do.. they'd better bring a PI though. I'm talking hot rocks as small as BB's to the size of VW vans. This and tons of black sand. The reason the MXT can function there is because of the incredibly fast ground tracking and Hypersat function, both of which (or so I'm led to believe) exceed, by far, what is available on the DFX or QXT. The ground can change radically in just a couple of feet. I can hunt it with the MXT, but it brings me no joy. By it's very nature, a VLF detector (whether it has 1 or 2 frequecies, or 20) will have problems in such ground. These sites are not by any means worked out.. just too tough to work for most people/detectors. ..Willy.

 

[willy]

I'm a cut to the chase detectorist and knobs & switches and readily accessed info do the trick for me. Doesn't mean I won't keep trying different styles/brands of detectors though. If they'd add the MXT ground tracking to the DFX and have a GTI/Xterra style notch display on the future DFX I'd seriously think about buying one. Some of the ground I hunt can only be effectively gone over with a PI. I prospect for gold, which is often found in the worst ground. As for being upset, I kinda took exception to the bleeding green quip and that I have a grudge. While I think that Garrett detectors are fine machines, and I'm not afraid to admit it & explain why, they are not the do-all and end-all in detectors. The only (major) brand of detector that I have mixed feelings about is Minelab, and that because of all the hype & pure BS revolving around thier detectors, most prominently the BBS/FBS series. ..Willy.

 

[Dave Z]

the dfx has a hot rock adjustment of 1-30.I'm sure one of those settings would cancel out your small hot rocks perfectly.May be just what you need.

 

[Pap]

Nuff said. Oh, and by the way I honestly thought you were someone else.

 

[crazyman]

The 6000's and newer XL Pro do have a hotrock reject/accept switch and works very good in the toughest ground where there is an abundance of hot rocks. Some depth can be lost when set to reject. The XLT had a similar function by accepting or rejecting +95 and the lower -minus digits.

 

[crazyman]

Willy, mine is the Quantum II with the upgraded sofware to vr. 1.2 which is basicly the noise reduction filter turned off. This is a real sleeper detector with very good depth in my mineralized soil. I don't like the zone ID but don't rely on the meter ID most of the time as 90% of my hunting is in old ghost towns and logging camps where I dig everything non iron related. Also in some old parks where the coins might be real deep and I dig most signals that are repeatable, small and deep.