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Heard on TV that gas is going to $5.00 per gallon everywhere..

Yeah and they used to give green stamps and steak knives away. I still got a set of steak knives I got from Shell way back then. Now they have no competition and can ram it to us at will. It's strange, monopolies are against the law, yet the oil companies operate freely as monopolies. Course our current administration are all oil people so they sort of look the other way on that one.

Bill
 
To the 70's,.... no gas..... long lines at gas stations,etc. (this is when it first started). As for lines I had a 64 impala ss that only had one ding in it from being pushed up to the pumps. (grrrrr) and As I've have read and heard that there were tankers full sitting and waiting to unload at that time, as they did not have anywhere to unload because all the tanks were full.(this is fact) Then a miracle happened, after the prices gone up all of a sudden they're was gas!!!, gas everywhere. Since then It seems that everytime they have a shortage,and there is no gas, after the prices go up there is plenty!.(is it just me or has anyone else noticed this?) as this has happened many, many times since the 70's. THINK ABOUT IT!.
(NO FUEL UNTIL THE PRICES RISE)
I could be wrong on the tankers waiting to unload as this subject tends to be pushed under the table,I have read about it and even seen it on the discovery or history channel, I guess that they could be wrong too alone with the papers. All I know is It started in the early 70's and has been going on ever sence....
Alot of people on this forum are very good people,that has helped me out with out even knowing it. My thanks,and I wish everyone well. And if your ever around the Soviet socialist republic of phoenix, drop by and say hi, as not to change the subject, Well new sup at parks said no detecting what so ever, even after some employees gave me the OK in the past only in certain areas. ouch!, I'm not going to cry on anyones shoulder as I have other places I can go, so I will say that you all are a great bunch of people and I wish you well. And cant wait until I make my own fuel, in another week or so.(bio-diesel) Hope it works out. (sorry to change subject.) as I'm very tired and frustrated over everything.
 
Don't use drive-thrus!! Park and go inside. Chances are you'll be outta there faster anyways.

And yes, unload that gas-guzzler. I was sitting at a highway intersection yesterday, and had been thinking about the whole gas price thing, and started counting gas-guzzlers in relation to economy cars. In one minute, of the 47 vehicles that passed thru the light, 32 were gas guzzlers. When will the light come on in these peoples heads? They just keep on driving them and complaining about the price of fuel. If we stop buying them, automakers will quit making them. I don't like the high price of fuel either, but I sold my 26 mpg vehicle for one that will get me 30 mpg (it was rated at 34).
Now I realize some people need big vehicles for work and I've got no problem with that, but Mrs. Soccer Mom doesn't need that big ol' Expedition to ferry a couple of kids around in.
 
Yeah what gets me is how the automakers suckered the Yuppies in. Utility vehicles have been around since 1935 but up until a few years ago you couldn't run fast enough to sell one to a Yuppie, then the automakers got the bright idea of gussying this drab, plane Jane rig up and calling it a Sport Utility Vehicle. That's all it took and the Yuppies bought it hook line and sinker and fell all over each other to run out and buy one. All an SUV is is a pickup with a utility body mounted on it. You could disguise cow patties and hang an exotic name on them and the Yuppies would stampede over one another to buy them.



Bill
 
I can't believe what's happened to Phoenix. Ain't the town I used to live in. It's true about the seventies. I witnessed it all and it was the scam of the century. Now they are pulling it all over again and Yuppie America is falling for it again. During the seventies I never had to sit in line for gas or go through that red flag green flag, odd or even license number crap just to get gas.

We had a guy here who opened up a closed station and dealt with an independent supplier and stayed open from daylight to late at night and sold all the gas you wanted. He even sold 30 gallon barrels for customers to fill up and take with them. Guys would come in with 200-300 gallon tanks in the back of their trucks to fill up. When the scam was over he closed the station and retired. I watched the oil company tankers pull into every closed and abandoned service station in town and dump their gas into the underground tanks because they had no place to put it.

Where my in-laws lived in the high desert in California the tankers were lined up in the desert dumping their gas on the ground. The harbors in Los Angeles and San Pedro had tanker ships loaded with gas stacked up like dominos forbidden to unload until the scam was over. My uncle was a safety inspector for Shell Oil back at their refinery in Illinois and he filled me in on the scam plus he was almost burned to death and spent two years in the hospital when one of Shell's big storage tanks that was bursting at the seams did burst and catch fire. My uncle's partner was incinerated to death and my uncle was burnt to a crisp.

It's sad that people are so terminally dumb and don't wake up and raise holy hell before this country is wiped out by our crooked, greedy, politicians and their masters, Corporate America.

Bill
 
I buy them about the same way. I've only financed one
car and that was in the late 70's. Was a 78 Z-28.
Both the trucks I have now, I got free. But I've sunk
a good bit into the 68. Haven't spent much at all on the
74 yet. I had a 81 monte carlo that I drove for about 12-13
years. Still ran ok when I got rid of it but was getting
kinda beat. Traded it for a 1948 RCA Victor radio/phono console...
:heh:
I do most all my own repair work, so I can drive an old
car without it being unreliable.. They are easy to work on too.
I installed the engine in the 68 by myself. Ditto for the front
end, etc. The 74 is about to the point of needing a kingpin
overhaul... Been too lazy to mess with it though..
I really want a small 4 banger wagon.. I can haul some stuff,
but it's still low and aerodynamic for the MPG...
But on the other hand, I start looking at the ad's for
vintage cars, and many of those are hard to resist. Most
old cars are usually a pretty good investment these days.
IE: I could have bought that Vette, and probably not lost
much on resale cuz it's a vette.. Was looking at a 55 T bird
that is local..Asking 6k, but it needs an $$$$$$ overhaul.
One of those "looks good at 30 ft, but up close had rust.."
You rarely get your money back when restoring a car, unless
it's super collectable. Like ya say, better to find some
guy thats already restored one, and got hard up for cash.
So I bypassed the rusty t bird too, although it fer sure
had some potential. They get big $$$$ for those in clean
shape. I saw one on e-bay that looked like a new car, and
was priced to match... :( I like old stuff of about anything...
Old cars , just one extension of that... My old truck often
gets more looks than some fancy new one.. You don't see near
as many old vehicles as you used to, as many are getting
scrapped. Man still hadn't walked on the moon yet when my
older truck was built.. :cool: And to me, being a semi old
fart of nearly 50, a 60's vehicle doesn't really seem like
that old a car to me.. I really need a 50's or older to start
really feeling like an old car.. But to some of the younger
pups, my truck is ancient... :rofl:
MK
 
Yeah I've heard that song and dance a jillion times from the Yuppie, educated idiot, economists. You know what an economist is don't you? He's the expert who will tell you today why what he predicted yesterday didn't work. :)

Bill
 
Yeah I wish I had all the cars I had when I was young. I could live like royalty after selling them. HA. I had one that I've never seen at classic car shows or never listed in Hemmings and other publications - a 1939 LaSalle opera coupe. They didn't make a whole lot of them when they were new. I had a 30 Model-A sport roadster back then. My pride and joy was a 37 Buick Century with tire mounts in the front fenders. Looked like a gangster rig and would out run everything in town or any other town.

One of the best I ever owned was a 74 Ford LTD that I bought when it was a year old. It had the 400 V-8 in it but would get about 21 MPG on the highway driving 70 MPH plus. I drove that puppy for 15 years and it was still going strong and looked as good as the day I bought it. Never had a minutes trouble with it. I'd like to find another in good shape just to play with.

Bill
 
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