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GOOD GRIEF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:surrender::rage::rant:
- Thread starter sunraysux
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mapper65
Member
Sunraysux I mean what I'm about to say in a good way so I hope you'll take it that way. A few days ago you posted that you've been out with the Etrac 8 times. It takes months to get comfortable with a new detector and years to fully master it. While I admit the Etrac may be a different animal from what you are used to you have to get out there with it and bond and don't get frustrated in the meantime. Again, I mean this in a good way but these are detectors and not magic wands. I had my 705 for 3 years before I felt like I knew it 100% inside and out. I have 100's of hours in with the 705 and I'm very new to the Etrac, Somedays I get out there and feel like I'm starting to really understand it and other days it feel like I've never used it before. Nothing can replace getting out of the house and away from the computer and getting time in with the detector even if you don't quite understand what you are doing.
My brother (Hotrod53) and I had a friend that detected for a long period of time with an older analog detector and eventually just quit detecting because he felt he needed an upgrade. I kept telling him how much I liked my 705 so one day I drove about 45 minutes to a park that was halfway between where he and I lived. I had never detected the park. He didn't even bring his detector with him and wanted me to show him the ropes with the 705. I pulled up somewhere around 40-50 coins and a junk ring in the short period of time we were there. He said "as soon as I get home I'm ordering one of these". If he had a smart phone I'm sure he would have ordered it from the parking lot of the park. He was so excited and even called me on his ride home to tell me how impressed he was with the number of coins that I found. He did go home and buy the detector. For two years after that he spent more time online doing what I call "arm chair detecting" than going out and using his brand new 705. He would read all about it and watch You Tube videos. I even drove an hour away to go detecting with him 5 or 6 times and he never got a grasp on it. I think those 5 or 6 times probably accounted for 75% of the time that he used the detector. He was more overwhelmed with the technology and the excitement about owning the detector that was sure to find him some coins that he would get more frustrated than anything. But what he wasn't doing was going out and using it. I kept telling him "I have more hours with this detector in my hands than I've ever spent with golf clubs in my hands and that's why I'm a crappy golfer, it's all about getting out and using it".
Unfortunately our friend Bob with no signs of health problems contracted Leukemia. He went through tons of treatments and even a bone marrow transplant and was given a clean bill of health. He eventually passed away from complications of the disease just 2-3 years after finding out that he had it. Unfortunately Bob never realized the potential that the 705 would have had in his hands but prior to his illness he was sort of holding himself back by not getting out there with it as often as he would have been able to use it being retired.
Don't try too hard, just get out their even with the stock coin program. You'll eventually bond with it when you least expect it. There's nothing that's going to change with how the detector is constructed so let go of all of that and see what you can do with it. Before too long you'll be looking back at your posts like it was written by a different person. You will have mastered the detector and reaped the rewards in the meantime.
My brother (Hotrod53) and I had a friend that detected for a long period of time with an older analog detector and eventually just quit detecting because he felt he needed an upgrade. I kept telling him how much I liked my 705 so one day I drove about 45 minutes to a park that was halfway between where he and I lived. I had never detected the park. He didn't even bring his detector with him and wanted me to show him the ropes with the 705. I pulled up somewhere around 40-50 coins and a junk ring in the short period of time we were there. He said "as soon as I get home I'm ordering one of these". If he had a smart phone I'm sure he would have ordered it from the parking lot of the park. He was so excited and even called me on his ride home to tell me how impressed he was with the number of coins that I found. He did go home and buy the detector. For two years after that he spent more time online doing what I call "arm chair detecting" than going out and using his brand new 705. He would read all about it and watch You Tube videos. I even drove an hour away to go detecting with him 5 or 6 times and he never got a grasp on it. I think those 5 or 6 times probably accounted for 75% of the time that he used the detector. He was more overwhelmed with the technology and the excitement about owning the detector that was sure to find him some coins that he would get more frustrated than anything. But what he wasn't doing was going out and using it. I kept telling him "I have more hours with this detector in my hands than I've ever spent with golf clubs in my hands and that's why I'm a crappy golfer, it's all about getting out and using it".
Unfortunately our friend Bob with no signs of health problems contracted Leukemia. He went through tons of treatments and even a bone marrow transplant and was given a clean bill of health. He eventually passed away from complications of the disease just 2-3 years after finding out that he had it. Unfortunately Bob never realized the potential that the 705 would have had in his hands but prior to his illness he was sort of holding himself back by not getting out there with it as often as he would have been able to use it being retired.
Don't try too hard, just get out their even with the stock coin program. You'll eventually bond with it when you least expect it. There's nothing that's going to change with how the detector is constructed so let go of all of that and see what you can do with it. Before too long you'll be looking back at your posts like it was written by a different person. You will have mastered the detector and reaped the rewards in the meantime.
i work for an engineering firm...so my head just has to do what it has to do M-kus....so i have created a slight modification to the upper arm of the shaft that allows the cable to feed out after i screw it into the "brains" receptor port...
and then i just wrap it around the cable a number of times and a few carefully placed pieces of electrical tape late, i am happily swinging after a 2 minute...NON frustrating coil swap
necessity being the mother of invention and such
i would post some pix but this site is not easy to upload to for whatever reason
OH!!...and btw M-kus....well done on all those silvers!!
geeeez am i jealous....but happy for you at the same time
try to leave some for the rest of us!!
and then i just wrap it around the cable a number of times and a few carefully placed pieces of electrical tape late, i am happily swinging after a 2 minute...NON frustrating coil swap
necessity being the mother of invention and such
i would post some pix but this site is not easy to upload to for whatever reason
OH!!...and btw M-kus....well done on all those silvers!!
geeeez am i jealous....but happy for you at the same time
try to leave some for the rest of us!!
IDXMonster
Well-known member
mapper65 said:
One of the BEST posts I've ever seen. Excellent!
well Mr Mapper....i am sad to have heard the tale of your lost friend...and his lost opportunity
and i do appreciate you taking the time to pen your thoughts and share them
i think my words seem to have some extra vinegar on them digitally...when i vent and such
it is just frustration with not being in that Etrac happy place yet....i am a very impetuous person by nature
...so while it may seem like i have had it and am ready to throw in the towel, we Jerseyans are a tad tougher than that
i will beat this thing....the last 2 days i have been out and it has continued to fluster and exasperate me...
i have dumbed her down...straight COINS program....AUTO sens..+1.....small 6 inch sniper loop
and yet very few finds to speak of in spots that helen keller would swear we loaded....really tantalizing spots
but very few targets which surely plays with your head...
one Merc....one 1864 Indian in Fine-12 condition....bunch of clad
just not the silver magnet ....YET!!
i will keep swinging; i have had her for 3 weeks and am up to 7 silvers
goal is 10 by EOM3/17
have alot of spots to hit; i am sure i am leaving stuff behind and it is eating at me bigtime
was out today and looked at a really good area i had just gone over and wondered what an experienced guy like IDX...Adirondack Tom...or the Mapper would have culled from the earth beyond what i found?!!?
and i do appreciate you taking the time to pen your thoughts and share them
i think my words seem to have some extra vinegar on them digitally...when i vent and such
it is just frustration with not being in that Etrac happy place yet....i am a very impetuous person by nature
...so while it may seem like i have had it and am ready to throw in the towel, we Jerseyans are a tad tougher than that
i will beat this thing....the last 2 days i have been out and it has continued to fluster and exasperate me...
i have dumbed her down...straight COINS program....AUTO sens..+1.....small 6 inch sniper loop
and yet very few finds to speak of in spots that helen keller would swear we loaded....really tantalizing spots
but very few targets which surely plays with your head...
one Merc....one 1864 Indian in Fine-12 condition....bunch of clad
just not the silver magnet ....YET!!
i will keep swinging; i have had her for 3 weeks and am up to 7 silvers
goal is 10 by EOM3/17
have alot of spots to hit; i am sure i am leaving stuff behind and it is eating at me bigtime
was out today and looked at a really good area i had just gone over and wondered what an experienced guy like IDX...Adirondack Tom...or the Mapper would have culled from the earth beyond what i found?!!?
mapper65
Member
IDXMonster said:
I don't want to hyjack this thread especially since this part is off topic from the original post but I'll quickly tell you guys the rest of the story. We found out after the fact that our buddy Bob passed away. I thought it was only fitting to find some way to pay my respects to him being that I didn't make it to the funeral home. After going through my detecting money I found it ironic that I didn't have a 1947 silver (the year Bob was born) so I bought a 1947 silver half from a coin dealer. I had my pick of a few and picked out the one in the best condition. I carried that in my pocket everyday for a over a month not telling anyone including my brother of my intentions. One day my brother came over and he said "I was out in the area where Bob lived today and I went and found his grave site". I said "how'd that go". He said "OK, I went though some detecting money and found a 1947 wheat and I buried it at his grave site". I reached in my pocket and pulled out the 1947 half that I'd been carrying for about a month and showed it to my brother. I said "see this, one of these days I'm going to do the exact same thing". We had never discussed it but we both had the same idea.
Bob is buried about an hour from where we live so one day I took a half day off of work and drove that hour to where he is buried. I took my small hand shovel out of the car, looked around real quick to be sure nobody was watching and I cut a small plug about the depth of the shovel, pushed the half into the ground and tramped the plug back down and told my buddy Bob "we'll always know where there's a spot with some good finds".
We've never been back there but somehow I know Bob would have chuckled knowing that we did that.
Get out there guys, life's too short.
Mark kus
Well-known member
Thanks I'm new to this machine to bought it in august but I have logged hundreds of hours on it! I feel pretty comfortable with in run in +3 almost all the time picked up a 1914 Barbra and a 1943 merc yesterday!sunraysux said:i work for an engineering firm...so my head just has to do what it has to do M-kus....so i have created a slight modification to the upper arm of the shaft that allows the cable to feed out after i screw it into the "brains" receptor port...
and then i just wrap it around the cable a number of times and a few carefully placed pieces of electrical tape late, i am happily swinging after a 2 minute...NON frustrating coil swap
necessity being the mother of invention and such
i would post some pix but this site is not easy to upload to for whatever reason
OH!!...and btw M-kus....well done on all those silvers!!
geeeez am i jealous....but happy for you at the same time
try to leave some for the rest of us!!
Mark kus
Well-known member
Pretty cool story I myself just lost my younger brother almost 3 weeks ago been very tough he had just started hunting with me and our father 83 years young.mapper65 said:
Try to enjoy the time spent because everyday is never a given I think of Paul every time I'm out there and remember him on that thurs the last time we hunted together
and see him walking over to meet me I will never forget those memories..
sandnsea49
Member
That's what I do. Tie a string to the cable, works fine.
Explorer.se
Well-known member
IDXMonster said:
I second the motion!
EtracTom-AdirondacksNY
New member
I bet nothing else I'd have found with the same machine and the same settings this is why you have to change a few settings or directions of sweeping.
You are thinking this too much. I will go out on a limb and say you aren't missing a thing but in your head you think you are.
Face it, it's just not there to be found or it would have been hit by the machine. Sounds like that spot is cleaned out move on to elsewhere, do yourself a favor please.
Sometimes there just isn't anything there to be found especially the silver. Been through this and we all sometimes have some unrealistic expectations about a spot.
The spot LOOKS GOOD so it must be good, NOT, and an unlikely spot you wouldn't give a second thought about it's too obvious or some such thing turns out to be a gold mine of good targets. Been there done that we all have I dare say.
You are thinking this too much. I will go out on a limb and say you aren't missing a thing but in your head you think you are.
Face it, it's just not there to be found or it would have been hit by the machine. Sounds like that spot is cleaned out move on to elsewhere, do yourself a favor please.
Sometimes there just isn't anything there to be found especially the silver. Been through this and we all sometimes have some unrealistic expectations about a spot.
The spot LOOKS GOOD so it must be good, NOT, and an unlikely spot you wouldn't give a second thought about it's too obvious or some such thing turns out to be a gold mine of good targets. Been there done that we all have I dare say.
it DEF is small Flea....
its funny, i have been using it for a couple outings now and i do like the quietness
but i flipped on the stock coil today and omg was it big and loud and a nuisance!!
i was on a permission so the yard wasn't caked with trash
still nulled out more than half the time though....another story for another time
but dang, i like small coils on the Etrac
that big one is just too much for me//really do not like it at all
still not a huge fan of the machine to be candid but it is more manageable with the little guy on there
its so funny to read guys say they had a bunch of other machines and sold them because the Etrac is all that and a bag of skittles
i just don't see it
its funny, i have been using it for a couple outings now and i do like the quietness
but i flipped on the stock coil today and omg was it big and loud and a nuisance!!
i was on a permission so the yard wasn't caked with trash
still nulled out more than half the time though....another story for another time
but dang, i like small coils on the Etrac
that big one is just too much for me//really do not like it at all
still not a huge fan of the machine to be candid but it is more manageable with the little guy on there
its so funny to read guys say they had a bunch of other machines and sold them because the Etrac is all that and a bag of skittles
i just don't see it
I buy the extra rods. That six inch coil had to be feed one coil at a time not bunching it up. I really like the coil. I have found the etrac very stable with this coil. Only complaint is I wish I had bought it earlier.
Now for gold you have the F19, you should be able to hit gold pretty with it?
Now for gold you have the F19, you should be able to hit gold pretty with it?
Mark kus
Well-known member
I'm with you I just got my Etrac in august and my finds have been incredible! Luck has a lot to do with it but time spent out in the field is my key to success.daddyflea said:
Low and slow I missed a walker in a small field that I have pulled about 30 silvers out of been hunting this spot for a week and on my way out sunday had a small squeak
dug it because it rang up 3-47 3-48 a walker 1943 3" down?!
I also had three silver dimes a silver Washington and 3 buffs that day.
...and how much//many junk targets in that field of dreams??
....how much nulling??
my experience has been that the machine with the stock coil just grabs too many things at once and it results in a garbled
montage of noise....even at lower sensitivity settings(AUTO)
very difficult to isolate targets with the 11 inch stock coil in busy ground like i run in....
so i got the 6 inch sniper COILTEK and it surely helps but i feel like i am losing way to much depth because i am not getting deeper silver....just stuff in the top several inches
so this dichotomy and paradox is the genesis of my frustrations
sort of damned if i do....damned if i don't
its exasperating
glad you are killing it though.....
....how much nulling??
my experience has been that the machine with the stock coil just grabs too many things at once and it results in a garbled
montage of noise....even at lower sensitivity settings(AUTO)
very difficult to isolate targets with the 11 inch stock coil in busy ground like i run in....
so i got the 6 inch sniper COILTEK and it surely helps but i feel like i am losing way to much depth because i am not getting deeper silver....just stuff in the top several inches
so this dichotomy and paradox is the genesis of my frustrations
sort of damned if i do....damned if i don't
its exasperating
glad you are killing it though.....