Golden uMAX sales halted BUMMER!!!!

[glriacol88ssn]

One of the most striking and notable features and improvements of the new Golden uMax is its new 9 by 8-inch oval, concentric searchcoil.

 

[Tallon]

And alas. Looks like Tesoro has pulled the rug out from under us again. Why does a company or any other business for that matter, get a good thing going and then cut it off at the feet???? Keep it going, keep it in production PLEASE Tesoro. There ARE a (LOT) of sites in the east (mid-atlantic states) that are literally (CARPETED) and plagued with very difficult trash to detect through and the average screen-i.d. or non screen-i.d. (WILL NOT) null out the sounds of these particular types of trash but yet those same screen-type detectors and the non-screen type alike will only break the trash tones down into just that....(TONES). If I'm out there metal detecting through all that trash (TRYING) to sift through all that trash with just the quality of the sounds, the (LAST) thing I want is to have to have a PHD. in Cryptology or Heiroglyphics to decipher all these audible trash tones the detector should be taking care of. A screen detector only makes it more confusing and distracting for a coin/jewelry hunter. They do not notch out the trash, they simply categorize it into a certain tone you hear and a v.d.i. # you have to be distracted by on a screen. These are old posts but MAYBE Tesoro will come (BACK) to their senses one day. TESORO, if you're following this thread, please don't go the way of the other companies and just churn out a bunch of average, consumer-grade, recreational Sunday afternoon grade-school, one size fits all approach that almost all, if not all, the other companies have taken. Pride youselves in being the puristsyou once were, (please). My Tejon cannot even do (HALF) the stuff that the Golden Umax was capable of. Please Tesoro, listen to the plea of you customers. There are many who long for you to restore this model. If you increase the depth to maybe that of a Tejon or greater, I (GUARANTEE) you, you will be very competitive with the likes of a Tejon or Minelab Sovereign GT/Elite (discontinued) as far as depth and certainly in response/recovery speed seeing as the Golden Umax was a manual, straight through, non-digital, non-coded/encode/decode-type detector. Take a long, hard look, do some soul-searching, and (PLEASE), STRONGLY think about reviving this detector but with maybe, much more depth. Thank you for your consideration. I will be trying to contact you as well to encourage a revamping of this WONDERFULLY versatile machine. Thanks for your consideration Tesoro, (if) by (any) chance, one of your PR persons should happen upon my post and take my request to heart. TRUST me, back east, there are a (LOT) of sites that could (GREATLY) benefit from a machine of the Golden Umax' calibre. Thank you.

 

[Mega]

@adams449 ,as a general rule its not advisable to post your email on a open forum,of course if you want to then you are not doing anything wrong,but you do stand a chance of getting many 'spam' emails as anyone can read that email and also automated bots can also harvest these emails and spam you to death with sales of those little blue tablets that men use when you get to a certain age

 

[adams449]

Thanks for the heads up. I didn't think about it at the time.

 

[Sven]

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[Bring back the golden umax]

My question is why is it that some people think the golden umax is obsolete? It actually stands out from the others churned out like the tesoro silver umax, compadre, and other tesoro detectors. At least the golden umax can tell the difference between a gold ring and a pull tab. Name one tesoro that can take that claim and I will be sold on that other so called better with the times machine. I can say there is no answer that tesoro can give on that question. Take the golden and add ground balance if you want depht. I think they lost the program on the golden umax and want to make excuses. In my opinion the golden is far more advanced than the boring models they have now. Anymore it's do a color change with a new decal and call it a new model. I hope they don't go the troy route by making wrong decisions. It should be what the vast majority of customers want not what tesoro wants to go cheap on.

 

[walnut]

Do you think a cortes can tell a pull tab from a nickel? There is very little info written about how it really does

 

[Bring back the golden umax]

Hello, I have used the Cortez and the deleon for a while and can say neither one of those can do what the golden can. For example you can litter the park with pull tabs mix in with rings with my experience with the golden with the new tones I can cherry pick those rings like no tommorrow unlike the Cortez or the deleon I will be playing the guessing game like most detectors out today. I have a minelab 705 that will find the rings but it's no different than the other two Tesoros mentioned . The golden umax will flat tap dance those three in ring finds. The only thing that those other detectors can do is go deeper. I still have the minelab 705 and would love to have a golden with new tones beside it. Tesoro could bring the golden back with an added ground balance if depht is a problem for some people. I hope my reply helps. If it sounds like a duck. Then more times than not,. It's a duck!!!. I have gotten so good with the golden that it would be hard pressed for anyone to beat me in a trashy park littered in pull tabs and bottle caps were possibly gold rings may be in the mist of it.. I will use my minelab machines in the open fields were trash is limited for deep relics and silver.

 

[hihosilver]

I can eliminate almost all pulltabs and still detect smaller rings like my gold wedding band. The same tone that hits these smaller rings also sounds off on nickels. I find a lot of nickels because I dig these tones, hoping to find gold. The only two gold items I ever found, a small 10k ring and a 2" filigree 14k cross, hit on this lower middle tone, (I have the older tone configuration that places the tones in their proper conductive order). That being said, this tone will still pick up some foil, especially foil that has been balled up to coin size. The golden micromax is great, but no detector will discriminate all aluminum from gold. What's nice about the golden umax is you can select the range of conductivity you want to find gold in, and if you are satisfied with smaller to medium size gold rings, the machine WILL disc out most aluminum trash in this range, although as I said, I still have trouble will waded up foil and heavier foil that is coin sized.

 

[Bring back the golden umax]

You are correct the golden umax can be fooled also but I never had the old tone machine deliver gold items like the new tones machine. I owned both and will never go back to the old tone golden fore the new golden umax has better tones that are not so close together like the old tone golden. I had over several different metal detectors and never seen one to this day do as good as my new tone golden umax. It pretty much stands out to it's self. I am sure someday there will be a gold ring metal detector out that can't be fooled by junk aluminum that will be out of the blue color mans reach in price. I am now trying to get my golden back that I sold on ebay. It will never show up for sale again if I end up with it. I made a stupid! I mean stupid mistake! by selling it. My minelab 705 with the 18.75 coil is second to the golden umax when it comes to hunting jewelry. Those are the only machines that truly impress me from real hunting results. I had had got so good with the golden umax that I could almost tell you when it is a gold or foil by the edges of the tone of the duck sound but I also had over 1000 hours of hunting with it. HH

 

[Whimpster]

hihosilver,

I just bought a the older tone configuration....could you give me a few pointers on how you setup your golden...I've read many post on the new tone setup,but not much on the older tones.
Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks Bob.

I can eliminate almost all pulltabs and still detect smaller rings like my gold wedding band. The same tone that hits these smaller rings also sounds off on nickels. I find a lot of nickels because I dig these tones, hoping to find gold. The only two gold items I ever found, a small 10k ring and a 2" filigree 14k cross, hit on this lower middle tone, (I have the older tone configuration that places the tones in their proper conductive order). That being said, this tone will still pick up some foil, especially foil that has been balled up to coin size. The golden micromax is great, but no detector will discriminate all aluminum from gold. What's nice about the golden umax is you can select the range of conductivity you want to find gold in, and if you are satisfied with smaller to medium size gold rings, the machine WILL disc out most aluminum trash in this range, although as I said, I still have trouble will waded up foil and heavier foil that is coin sized.

 

[slingshot]

They stopped production, according to them, because of inability to replace a needed part. That translates, to me, an absence of technical engineers- only repair personnel.

 

[CoinDuck]

I want a golden umax! Used ones I've seen lately must be Gold Plated! What's going on?

 

[jld66]

They stopped production, according to them, because of inability to replace a needed part. That translates, to me, an absence of technical engineers- only repair personnel.

Still a few that think Tesoro is a thriving and innovative company. We will see when or if this "new" detector comes out, what kind of company they are. They have not done anything remotely impressive since the old man retired after the vaquero/cibola came out. Junior just don't have what it takes and that is obvious to anyone that has some basic common sense.

 

[slingshot]

You are correct the golden umax can be fooled also but I never had the old tone machine deliver gold items like the new tones machine. I owned both and will never go back to the old tone golden fore the new golden umax has better tones that are not so close together like the old tone golden. I had over several different metal detectors and never seen one to this day do as good as my new tone golden umax. It pretty much stands out to it's self. I am sure someday there will be a gold ring metal detector out that can't be fooled by junk aluminum that will be out of the blue color mans reach in price. I am now trying to get my golden back that I sold on ebay. It will never show up for sale again if I end up with it. I made a stupid! I mean stupid mistake! by selling it. My minelab 705 with the 18.75 coil is second to the golden umax when it comes to hunting jewelry. Those are the only machines that truly impress me from real hunting results. I had had got so good with the golden umax that I could almost tell you when it is a gold or foil by the edges of the tone of the duck sound but I also had over 1000 hours of hunting with it. HH

Yeah-I may have goofed by postponing buying one-especialy the new tone model. My only consolation is I have a Royal Sabre that comes fairly close by adjusting the tone in minimum discriminate- but falls short of the videos I saw on the Golden. Who knows. I may be better off beep/dig with the Compadre.

 

[CoinDuck]

Getting ready to fire up a newly acquired cutlas II umax after the winter thaw while awaiting a golden umax. Now that's going to be BEEP & DIG! Maybe all for the better. Maybe I'll learn better & become more EAR-INTUITIVE. Who knows? Wad'ya think? Duck

 

[Cajundirtdobber]

Don't know why they are so high they do not go very deep and for that price other detectors just as good and much deeper can be had.The cost should only be around $200.00-$250 MAX.

 

[Neil]

My question is why is it that some people think the golden umax is obsolete? It actually stands out from the others churned out like the tesoro silver umax, compadre, and other tesoro detectors. At least the golden umax can tell the difference between a gold ring and a pull tab. Name one tesoro that can take that claim and I will be sold on that other so called better with the times machine. I can say there is no answer that tesoro can give on that question. Take the golden and add ground balance if you want depht. I think they lost the program on the golden umax and want to make excuses. In my opinion the golden is far more advanced than the boring models they have now. Anymore it's do a color change with a new decal and call it a new model. I hope they don't go the troy route by making wrong decisions. It should be what the vast majority of customers want not what tesoro wants to go cheap on.

Gold rings come in all sizes. If you find one that reads the same as a certain pulltab, the golden isnt gonna seperate the two up. No detector Ive ever used can do that. If that were possible that would probably be the most popular detector on the planet.

 

[bklein]

Hi Neil,
I'm left wodering if you did what you suggest - try the 705 (I have a CTX and like this tried) and get a pull tab and gold ring that both have the same ID and tell us if the golden can notch out the pulltab but still detect the ring. I'm wondering if there is technology out there that can differentiate aluminum vs gold targets that seem to indicate identical ID's on most machines.
And I'd sure like to know what component is EOL on the golden.

 

[Neil]

I just got the golden and havent tried it on that yet but tried it on a sov, explorer/etrac,f75,xterra......you notch anything out in the foil thru zinc range your gonna miss jewelry.