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Gold Bug And G2 Depth Nickels
- Thread starter Ronk
- Start date
I was more interested in a machine for nail invested sites with recovery speed and separation more important than depth, so I mainly use the 5" coil for these sites. I have used the 11" coil very little and the little I have used it was for tests in a coin garden. I don't know about nickels, but on clad dimes and the 11" coil, in my mild, but very, very dry soil in Texas, I can get a signal on a 8" dime and a sometimes ID. It will give a very weak signal on a 9" dime but not ID and to be honest I might think this was nothing more than shallow small can slaw.
Just FYI on the 5" coil I can get a weak signal on a 7" dime and a sometimes ID and a weak signal on a 8" quarter and again a sometimes ID. Again this is in my soil and with very dry conditions and no other metal around.
I have been over my yard several times with 4 other machines and with the G2 and 5" coil I have found 5 nickels that the other missed and every one of the nickels had some sort of iron very close to them.
Just FYI on the 5" coil I can get a weak signal on a 7" dime and a sometimes ID and a weak signal on a 8" quarter and again a sometimes ID. Again this is in my soil and with very dry conditions and no other metal around.
I have been over my yard several times with 4 other machines and with the G2 and 5" coil I have found 5 nickels that the other missed and every one of the nickels had some sort of iron very close to them.
That sound real good! Other have said they found dimes and nickels in 7-8 inch range with the 5DD and that's real good for such a small coil.I think with moisture in the ground will help a lot.My ground is also very dry and hard and just like powder because of the lack of rain this past summer and triple digit temps.I also hunt in mostly trashy sites with a lot of iron and I have been thinking real strong on buying either the GB or G2. They have just the right controls that a person needs and no cluttered control panel.
I have read a lot of reports of others going over the same places with the GB/G2 that they or others scanned before and pulled lots of good stuff out of the trash that was missed before.
That alone is more important than depth in those cases! There is Always junk in the ground about 90 percent of places I go and I am so curious as to what is mixed in with all that trash.I think the G2/GB would solve the mystery! I live in Arkansas and it sounds like your ground is about like mine.I have reduced depth in these conditions. We desperately need a lot of rain right now!
Thanks for the Great info on your G2! It sounds like it's getting the job done for you!
HH!
RonK
I have read a lot of reports of others going over the same places with the GB/G2 that they or others scanned before and pulled lots of good stuff out of the trash that was missed before.
That alone is more important than depth in those cases! There is Always junk in the ground about 90 percent of places I go and I am so curious as to what is mixed in with all that trash.I think the G2/GB would solve the mystery! I live in Arkansas and it sounds like your ground is about like mine.I have reduced depth in these conditions. We desperately need a lot of rain right now!
Thanks for the Great info on your G2! It sounds like it's getting the job done for you!
HH!
RonK
sgoss66
Well-known member
Ron --
I live in central Oklahoma, so I am right there with you on the lack of rain and triple digit heat. Our ground is rock hard, and depth/ID suffers as a result. When the soil was damp, I was able to hit deep (10") nickels in my test garden with decent ID, in disc mode. In all metals mode, 10" and 12" nickels are NO problem.
Steve
I live in central Oklahoma, so I am right there with you on the lack of rain and triple digit heat. Our ground is rock hard, and depth/ID suffers as a result. When the soil was damp, I was able to hit deep (10") nickels in my test garden with decent ID, in disc mode. In all metals mode, 10" and 12" nickels are NO problem.
Steve
I am just about on the border of Oklahoma in the in West central Arkansas south of Ft. Smith so I know how your ground is now.It sure does mess up the Id/depth with that kind of dirt.It sounds like the GB/G2 do great on the lower conductors so I guess it should be great for small gold jewelry as well.Are those depths with the 11DD? Also how accurate was the ID at depth?I saw a video of someone testing it with the 10 inch Concentric and while it was an Air test it looked real good but in the ground is where it counts.
We finally got a sprinkle of rain but I can sweat more than that.We really need the rain Bad! Thanks for the Reply!
HH!
RonK
We finally got a sprinkle of rain but I can sweat more than that.We really need the rain Bad! Thanks for the Reply!
HH!
RonK
I like the numbers U's have posted and I very much agree.
I'm in Qld. Au. the grass is green and the ground is moist, my GB-Pro with a 5"DD gets 8" and 11" ..........the 11x7"DD gets 10" and 13" ..........and the 12x13"DD gets 12" and 14".
This is on a Nickle in a test tube where the target can be lowered at an angle under ground from 0 to a max of 14" hence the max depth of 14" with 12x13"DD coil.
In Disc Mode the sensitivity is maxed out and in All Metal it's also maxed out with the audio threshold just heard.
ivanll
I'm in Qld. Au. the grass is green and the ground is moist, my GB-Pro with a 5"DD gets 8" and 11" ..........the 11x7"DD gets 10" and 13" ..........and the 12x13"DD gets 12" and 14".
This is on a Nickle in a test tube where the target can be lowered at an angle under ground from 0 to a max of 14" hence the max depth of 14" with 12x13"DD coil.
In Disc Mode the sensitivity is maxed out and in All Metal it's also maxed out with the audio threshold just heard.
ivanll
I guess I should clarify the setting on the depths I was getting, Disc. mode and Gain at 100, Ground Phase around 48 - 52. Naturally, All Metal mode is deeper. While the G2 does very well in nails it does have a problem with coin size roundish pieces of iron and it loves the old crimp on bottle caps, both will give a good signal and will ID anywhere in the 50's to the high 70's. Most of the time you can use Monte's "Edge Pass Rejection" and tell if it is iron, but not always. I didn't even know I had the crimp on bottle caps in my yard until I used the G2.
I have an older, no longer made, Compass Coin Scanner Pro analog machine that does somewhat better in iron invested sites including the roundish pieces of iron and bottle caps and will, most of the time, classify them as iron on the meter. However, this older machine is heavy compared to the G2 and there is only 1 known person that works on them and it can take a year or more to get them back if they need repairs. When I go to these iron invested sites I carry both detectors.
On the G2 you really have to listen, as coins give a somewhat weak signal (signal is not very loud compared to other machines) , even in the 5 to 6" range. The Compass gives a much better signal and gets slightly better depth (1/2" to 3/4" depending on coin) but for all practical purposes they are equal in depth.
I have an older, no longer made, Compass Coin Scanner Pro analog machine that does somewhat better in iron invested sites including the roundish pieces of iron and bottle caps and will, most of the time, classify them as iron on the meter. However, this older machine is heavy compared to the G2 and there is only 1 known person that works on them and it can take a year or more to get them back if they need repairs. When I go to these iron invested sites I carry both detectors.
On the G2 you really have to listen, as coins give a somewhat weak signal (signal is not very loud compared to other machines) , even in the 5 to 6" range. The Compass gives a much better signal and gets slightly better depth (1/2" to 3/4" depending on coin) but for all practical purposes they are equal in depth.
sgoss66
Well-known member
Hey RonK --
Yes, I was using the 11" DD when doing that testing, 100 sens. I can't recall specifically how well the machine was IDing that 10" nickel, as it has been MONTHS since we have had damp soil and I have forgotten the specifics (though I have the details written down somewhere, and probably somewhere in the archives of this forum as I'm thinking I posted the results). I do know though that in general I was impressed with the depth that this machine would ID coins at. And yes, it is hot on small pieces of gold (and gold jewelry). I made another post recently giving air test results of some small gold nuggets, using the 5" coil. I was impressed with the machine in that capacity. Again though, it is suffering with both depth and ID in this bone-dry soil. I have lost a couple of inches, in both depth, and ID accuracy...
Steve
Yes, I was using the 11" DD when doing that testing, 100 sens. I can't recall specifically how well the machine was IDing that 10" nickel, as it has been MONTHS since we have had damp soil and I have forgotten the specifics (though I have the details written down somewhere, and probably somewhere in the archives of this forum as I'm thinking I posted the results). I do know though that in general I was impressed with the depth that this machine would ID coins at. And yes, it is hot on small pieces of gold (and gold jewelry). I made another post recently giving air test results of some small gold nuggets, using the 5" coil. I was impressed with the machine in that capacity. Again though, it is suffering with both depth and ID in this bone-dry soil. I have lost a couple of inches, in both depth, and ID accuracy...
Steve
panama rich
New member
Hi ron c
This is an interesting thread as I have been considering a Gold Bug Pro. I already have a Compass Gold Scanner Pro
(with the Ground Balance) and a Garrett Infinium. I think from your comments I am just going to stick to these two
detectors for now.
Besides the weight difference, any other thoughts about the Gold Bug Pro vs the Compass Scanner series? I have
been getting into nugget shooting besides beach hunting.
Thanks
Rich
This is an interesting thread as I have been considering a Gold Bug Pro. I already have a Compass Gold Scanner Pro
(with the Ground Balance) and a Garrett Infinium. I think from your comments I am just going to stick to these two
detectors for now.
Besides the weight difference, any other thoughts about the Gold Bug Pro vs the Compass Scanner series? I have
been getting into nugget shooting besides beach hunting.
Thanks
Rich
sgoss66
Well-known member
Hey rich,
Not sure if it would be helpful at all to your decision making, but I did some pretty through air-testing of various-sized gold nuggets recently using my Gold Bug Pro...if you are interested, and can't find it, let me know and I'll find a link for you...
Steve
Not sure if it would be helpful at all to your decision making, but I did some pretty through air-testing of various-sized gold nuggets recently using my Gold Bug Pro...if you are interested, and can't find it, let me know and I'll find a link for you...
Steve
panama rich
New member
Thanks Steve, I would be interested in the link. The S Califonia deserts are starting to cool off and I am planning on spending
a bit of time nugget shooting. Besides, it's always fun to pick up a new detector and the Gold Bug Pro/G2 is on my interest list.
Rich
a bit of time nugget shooting. Besides, it's always fun to pick up a new detector and the Gold Bug Pro/G2 is on my interest list.
Rich
panama rich
New member
Thanks Steve,
Impressive results and am also impressed with you taking the time to run the test and help out everyone with questions about the new
Gold Bug/G2.
Thanks,
Hope you find lots of nuggets.
Rich
Impressive results and am also impressed with you taking the time to run the test and help out everyone with questions about the new
Gold Bug/G2.
Thanks,
Hope you find lots of nuggets.
Rich
panama rich
New member
Hi Parrott,
Think I will start on some of the GPAA claims around the Randsburg area that are easy to drive to,
then later work on some friends private claims that require a little more hiking. Right now I almost
need the vacation more than the gold! I am not a PCSC member currently, but am a GPAA member.
Rich
Think I will start on some of the GPAA claims around the Randsburg area that are easy to drive to,
then later work on some friends private claims that require a little more hiking. Right now I almost
need the vacation more than the gold! I am not a PCSC member currently, but am a GPAA member.
Rich
The only advantage of the gold bug pro VS a gold scanner would be the fast recovery speed of the gold bug pro in Iron infested sites.If you are in trashy area's the gold bug would be much better than the scanner but other than that I hear the scanners are amazing machines.
As for depth I found a nickle in wet beach sand laden with alot of black sand.I cant beleave the amount of black sand concentrated on the beach line.For fresh beach hunting this is some very mineralized sand.I had no problems,full 100 gain and disc on 0.
I found this coin at a depth of well over 8".Im guessing around 9"
.It was just small tiny blip of a sound until I took a few inch's of sand from the top, then it hit hard.Was very surprised on the depth by far the deepest coin I have found wth the GBpro so far.
As for depth I found a nickle in wet beach sand laden with alot of black sand.I cant beleave the amount of black sand concentrated on the beach line.For fresh beach hunting this is some very mineralized sand.I had no problems,full 100 gain and disc on 0.
I found this coin at a depth of well over 8".Im guessing around 9"
.It was just small tiny blip of a sound until I took a few inch's of sand from the top, then it hit hard.Was very surprised on the depth by far the deepest coin I have found wth the GBpro so far.
panama rich
New member
That was an impressive find, Rockpup. I can do that well with my Garrett Infinium, but it is a PI.
Were you in disc or all metal?
Rich
Were you in disc or all metal?
Rich
I was in disc mode full gain.Most of the heavy black sand is 4-5" down but theres alot.In all-metal its louder but disc is smooth.Not many false signals.Some beachs around these parts have Iron pyrite pockets you seem to pick up.This beach is smoothed down and raked nice by the care taked,wiht a tractor i think.It seems to keep the iron pyrite pockets away.I find beachs that are never groomed get these pockets that give false signals.I found my Vaquero alot more prone to these pockets then the goldbugpro is.The gold bug does sem to handle the minerals better than my Vaquero did.With that 5" disc i was amazed to get some targets 8"+.Mind you this is fresh water but that nasty black sand layer you think would give you less depth.Not 2 shabby.That 5x10 coil will get 10" on nickles if the 5" gets 8".
panama rich
New member
As well as it is handling black sand, it should be ideal for nuggets, and of course that is what it is designed for. Hopefully
your next find will be a gold ring.
Thanks for the reply
Rich
your next find will be a gold ring.
Thanks for the reply
Rich