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going to sell my M-6 and get a tesoro vaquero

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Gunnar of bradford MN

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after doing some research , i found tesoros are at least as good as the m-6 on depth but the reason i want to sell my m-6 is the wehgt swinging the 4 pound m-6 for two hours is getting to my back i would rather swing a 2.2 pounder i know i will be giving up the tone i. d and vdi numbers but the vaquero has a manuel ground balance and can hunt in all metal whith threshold and does have discrimination what should i be asking for the m-6 its not even a year old ?
 
Gunnar Take a look at the Xterra 70 while you are looking. or even the xterra 50
 
Gunnar my first detector was a Vaquero.I sold it as it is a "if it beeps,dig it detector".Yes it was lighter but I dug tons of trash with it.I have a CZ 70 and the M-6.I personally wouldn't go back to a non ID or multi tone detector.Just not enough target information for me.Bill
 
Maybe trying the 4x6 or 5.3 coil would lighten your load a little. If you thumb the disc knob up every time you get a beep then the V will work. But I think that thumbing will get old coin hunting. But if your a beep dig guy then go with the V. I have to tell you though that the Prizm 2 is a pretty good unit. You can lock it in true all metal mode and it still gives a target ID. Also there is a threshold you can hear. You can adjust GB and threshold through the access holes. It's very light. (2lbs-8oz)
 
The Vaquero is an excellent detector and Tesoro is very good company, but the Vaquero will not get the same depth as the M6. The only 2 Tesoro's that will get the same depth as the M6 are the Lobo ST and Tejon. In some instances the Tejon might be a little deeper on some objects. If weight is a problem then take a look at the Tejon or the LST which can be hip mounted. Anyway Whites and Tesoro are top quality companies making top quality detectors. HH
 
[quote khouse]I have to tell you though that the Prizm 2 is a pretty good unit. You can lock it in true all metal mode and it still gives a target ID. Also there is a threshold you can hear. You can adjust GB and threshold through the access holes.[/quote]Tell me how you get the Prism II into a "true All Metal mode?" You can accept all notch segments which will in effect be a non-rejection mode that might accept all metals, but that's not a "true" All Metal mode in conventional terms.

Also, does the one GB trimmer control the GB reference for BOTH the Pinpoint (momentary All Metal) and motion Discriminate modes? I've handled a LOT of different Prism models and have seen some with the PP GBed too positive and some too negative, and the Disc. mode has been balanced differently. One might be OK in both the Disc. and PP 'modes' and other will have one negative and the other positive, while yet a different specimen will have the mode's GB's just the opposite.

Only in locations with very modest ground mineralization have I found two or three Prism models to work well. In higher mineralization there were problems in one or both functions.

Monte
 
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Digging the past.."Preserving for the future".
 
Gunnar , I learned how to detect mainly on a tesoro conquistador umax. ,which is similar to the vaquero. I had installed the G Bal mod on mine, the V comes with G bal.Personally , after reading some of your post, you seem to know what you want , but IMHO if you go to a non meter machine , you may be dissapointed. The m6 gives a lot of info that you will not get with the beep dig machine. Try this, Take the M6 and set the tone switch to the center position for single tone,then cover the visual display with a something you cannot see thru. Now go out and hunt for 2 or 3 hours without cheating on the tones or the VDI. If you can hunt without looking at the display, or without using the tone id feature, then you will be able to use a beep dig machine, if you cheat even one time , then you will probably get frustrated with a beep dig machine,... You probably don't have alot of money to throw around on detectors , I know most of us don't, so I would hate to see you get stuck with something you may not be happy with. At least try the little beep dig test above before you jump to conclusions....The M6 is the easiest and best general purpose machine I have ever used, The grass is not always greener on the other side of the fence....Good Luck , and Good Health to you Gunnar ......HH...Rich
 
Great reply to gunnar LaDigger.............You rank up there with Monte on good old fashioned know how !!!!
 
Gunnar, why don't you make or get a metal detector harness? That would help support the weight of the detector. Kellyco has them from $19 to $24.
 
LOL! Elton, That is an Awesome compliment , but Monte has probably forgotten more about detectors than I will ever know ! In fact , I read every post I could find that was being posted by Monte on the tesoros, when I was getting started, and his willingness to share his knowledge and experience about detecting on the forums really helped me to understand what it is that I was doing and what I needed to do to become a passable detectorist. My Thanks to goes to Monte for sharing his knowledge, and I know I'm not the only one who feels this way....HH...Rich
 
If you push the PP button and release it locks in true all metal with a threshold hum. I'm not talking about running the disc at zero. Even the manual says you can hunt it that mode if you desire iron and steel along with all other metals. Then it says to re push the button to enter the disc mode. There are two rubber plugs on each side down low on the back of the head. One is for threshold and the other for GB. It's not something you adjust all the time. But you can tweak it to work in your soil. I'm not sure if the GB adjustment works in the disc mode. I would just guess it does. I guess an email to Whites may answer that question. Take care.
 
I had an IDX and after a couple of years thought that I was missing some targets since I relied on the meter. I sold the IDX and bought a Classic 3. It wasn't long before I really missed the IDX's TID But I know what you mean about the weight issue.
 
Gunnar, my hubby has a seriously bad back and neck..he used the cibola... so go for it...its like half the weight
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my friend had a Prizm II that, apparently, didn't work. It wouldn't do that.

Thanks,


Monte
 
It's been the GB issue more than anything that has annoyed me. Seriously, everyone I know, have met detecting, have encountered afield with one, or who attended a seminar and owned one, have all had an issue with either the PP/All Metal mode or the Disc. mode due to an too negative GB.

With the Classic one trimmer took care of both modes. The Prizm's have been inconsistent in that regard, with one mode's GB setting more positive or negative than the other. I think I'm also annoyed with the location of the headphone jack, and the limited discrimination adjustment.

I know that when they work they aren't bad for the cost, but they just are not versatile, and I'm big on versatility.

The Prizm II that I was familiar with didn't shift or 'lock' into an All Metal search mode. You could hold it to PP but that was it. I forgot that it was supposed to be a function on the Prizm II. One of my weaker moments I guess. ;)

Monte
 
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