razerback408
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have got three in mind one being x705 or 505 need your help to deside how are they in trash and the depth as well the recovery speed thanks for help razerback408
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getting a new detector help
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7centsworth
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The recovery is good but not as fast as some others I have used .That being said I think that is why minelabs find things others miss is because you have to go a little slower. The depth is great on them both. In trash they are good also , put a 6 inch coil on and they are killer in trash. I relic hunt with my xterra and i have dug bullets at great depths. They are just hard to beat .
razerback408
Member
thanks for your input depth is a hi plus with me7centsworth said:
razerback408
Member
can some one tell about the Sizing of target with the 705 how well it works thanks for all the input
It takes a little practice, but works well.
Check out page 65 in Randy's book. And as suggested in the book, read up on it in the manual as well.
Some also utilize the Prospector Mode instead. It's a matter of personal preference.
Check out page 65 in Randy's book. And as suggested in the book, read up on it in the manual as well.
Some also utilize the Prospector Mode instead. It's a matter of personal preference.
Hey mate I have previously owned an x-terra 70 and it was an awesome machine that did everything I needed it to do at the time of ownership. I took a break from metal detecting for a bit and came back also seeking a new machine but with a difference. I opted for a Garrett AT Pro International and must say for the value it is one hell of a machine. Fully water proof to 3 meters all terrain. That's what won me over in the end and the price tag of course. The DD coil is brilliant and target separation and sizing is very very good. I have always been a mine-lab fan boy and will always use mine-lab machines but for now the AT Pro by Garrett does what I ask and more. If you like water hunting on a hot day like me as well as all other areas of hunting then the ATP might be worth a shot. If you get a chance come over to the ATP / AT Gold forum and take a look you might be surprised by what you see. No I do not work for Garrett nor endorse their products I'm just a humble dude helping out a fellow detectorist like myself and giving you my opinion. Good luck with which ever machine you decide to go for.
Cheers!
http://www.garrett.com/hobbysite/hbby_at_pro_videos.aspx
Cheers!
http://www.garrett.com/hobbysite/hbby_at_pro_videos.aspx
razerback408
Member
thanks mate the at pro is one of three that iam looking atnugget71 said:
I will say that the xterra 70 was more stable in saltwater then the ATP. The ATP works in saltwater but you need to drop the sensitivity a bit to enable the machine to run more smoothly. Yes the ATP does ground balance in saltwater but does not like crashing waves. Hope this helps a bit more. Found a 9k ring underwater (freshwater) not long ago and was diving with the ATP, try doing that with an xterra lol, love the ATP its taking me where I never thought I would go.
Cheers!
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http://www.findmall.com/read.php?79,1836253,1836253#msg-1836253
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If you can only have one machine to do everything, and if playing in the water is on your adgenda, then I'd contemplate an ATP. But, if not so constrained, it would be one of my last choices.
With 12 coils now available in three frequencies, coupled with all of the other auto/manual adjustable features, the Xterra 505 & 705 have so much more to offer a user than any Garrett that I will never own one. I water hunt (dive) in fresh water, picked up a used 1280X for $250 and couldn't be happier (unless an opportunity to swap it off for an Excal arrises). I can go deeper in the water than an ATP if I want/need, and still have fantastic land machines that out perform the ATP in every way.
JMHO
With 12 coils now available in three frequencies, coupled with all of the other auto/manual adjustable features, the Xterra 505 & 705 have so much more to offer a user than any Garrett that I will never own one. I water hunt (dive) in fresh water, picked up a used 1280X for $250 and couldn't be happier (unless an opportunity to swap it off for an Excal arrises). I can go deeper in the water than an ATP if I want/need, and still have fantastic land machines that out perform the ATP in every way.
JMHO
Silver Fox
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Old Longhair have you ever used a Garrett at pro?
Only along side and behind. I wasn't impressed. Their users had experience with their machines, so I figure that it is a fairer comparison than if they had handed it to me.
Don't get me wrong. In it's pricepoint for a do-all machine it's probably a fine detector. But not restricting myself to one detector, I feel that it can be beat for the money in a more "tailored" machine for each application. Considering that my 7.5kHz and 3kHz coils see far more use than my 18.75kHz coils, I can't see where I'd find any more use for a 15kHz machine that limits me to that single frequency.
Don't get me wrong. In it's pricepoint for a do-all machine it's probably a fine detector. But not restricting myself to one detector, I feel that it can be beat for the money in a more "tailored" machine for each application. Considering that my 7.5kHz and 3kHz coils see far more use than my 18.75kHz coils, I can't see where I'd find any more use for a 15kHz machine that limits me to that single frequency.
Rainyday101
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From what Razorback says, looking at a 505 or 705, I would say it is safe to say he is looking for a land machine. I haven't owned an AT Pro, but my buddy does. I have tried and didn't like the balance. Overall it was pretty darn good at finding stuff,,,, I can't knock it for that. To me the AT is great machine for somebody that wants a decent land machine and decent shallow water machine. I think the same way as Old Longhair, get the right detector for each job. That is, get a great water machine and get a great land machine. For me, I am getting a Tesor Tiger Shark for fresh water use and 705 for land use. From what I have read and all the dealers I have talked to, everything points to the 705 (in that price range) for the land machine. It has flexibility to adapt to many land situations making it extremely Versatile. Do that by changing coils. Yep, I know most detectors can be made flexible by changing coils also (no magic their), but the 705 gives you even more flexibility by allowing you to change frequencies also, giving you more adaptability and flexibility. A 705 or 505 are hard to beat from the people that I have talked to. Call a multi-line dealer or two and ask them.
I know there are better choices yet, but in that $700 ish range the Xterra are a great choice. Good luck with choice and let us know what you picked!
I know there are better choices yet, but in that $700 ish range the Xterra are a great choice. Good luck with choice and let us know what you picked!
razerback408
Member
thanks for the info iam thinking that the 705 with the dd coil will be better in mineralized soil than than others will iam looking at the gti 2500 at pro and x 705 the soil hear is mineralized my g2 ground balanced at 70+ so give me more info thanksnugget71 said:
Excuse me? I missed the point?nugget71 said:
The OP never said anything about water, much less about salt. Yet you suggest a wader?
And my "tailored machine" comment was regarding tailoring an Xterra to it's task by changing coils. It was not having multiple machines, one for each task.
razerback408
Member
wt is a facter and it seems to be quick i allso like the coils that can be gotten for itGTzer said:
Oh -that was just an additional point that hadn't been mentioned. I have 5 coils and I'm still learning & experimenting. Prospecting is on my bucket list-but the 705 has worked great from the beach,low mineralized,high mineralized trashy & clean areas. As good a MD as you can get for the $.