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:garrett:Infinium fines nugget:ausflag:

Go with the 5 x 10.DD
It is not a deep seeking coil but runs quiet and the target tones are clear and pinpointing is good.
The 8 inch mono is an excellent coil for all detecting and it detects almost as deep as the big mono and DD. The 8 inch mono is far and away my favorite coil.
 
Thanks Fishers Ghost , sorry bout da typo (i meant would 5x10 on the tones (said 5x7) . the 5x10 makes sense to me for the pin-P factor. once i dig down on a good Target i can always use the 3x6.5" on the lobo when i'm using the big mono for pinpointing as well. i think i will sacrifice the big DD for a 5x10" soon. Just dont see how i would need any more than 3 coils to mess with. Thanks for the input - once again , Ken
 
A further update to my comment re the A T gold.

Upgrades have been developed for the A T Gold by Phil Stearnes of the GMC in Australia.and are now incorporated into all A T Golds with the exception of several of the early production run. This upgrade has made the detector more stable in All ground conditions and in particular enables the detector to ground balance well in our high iron mineralisation which also means that it is even more stable and smoother in most other ground conditions around the world. It is a nice machine and would be an excellent companion to the Infinium in the gold fields.
 
Fishers Ghost i was looking the other night on the guide (study) said by A Ross . I would look at it at lunch or back at camp on that 1st. 5 week trip to mojave & Arizona. I keep it in my prospect. Maps & Notes book :) How deep have You gone on the 8" mono if I may ask - not just in beach sand ? The other thing although both have M processors, is Being a 9 month detectorist , i like the (Seemingly) analog only style of the Infinium & Lobo with only Audible Sounds so i can learn tones well by Ear on both detectors. maybe later on i could want something with Digital buttons & readouts , but for now i just like keeping it simple & Dig most All targets. Thanks - Ken~Digs .
 
HI Ken,

The smallest target I have found at reasonable depth with the Infinium in extreme iron rich ground is an old brass button from the 1800s.
it was approx 8 to 10 inches down. it was about 18mm diam and maybe 3gm weight. The signal was weak.
The largest was an old axe head at about two foot in fairly average quartz/clay conglomerate. This was a strong low/hi signal.

I have not used the Infinium very much in the gold fields because good nuggety areas are a about 10 hours drive away and as far as detecting time verses targets found the beach is far more productive than travelling to the gold fields just to find nuthing or if I am lucky, maybe a sub gramer or two.

There are gold fields within an hours drive of where I live and I have done them to death over the past 20 or so years and the only gold I have ever got from these areas has been in the gold pan and sluice. As a matter of interest, almost all of the gold I have ever found has been from panning and sluicing.
 
HI Ken,
My Infinium and the 8 inch mono has found silver, gold and coins at down to around the 18 inch mark in wet salty beach sand and I am fairly certain that it is capable of even better depth on some of the larger rings of maybe 8 gms upwards
 
Yea- Thrice was not what i was after , now it's overkill, Booo . Just finished making & Installed a straight shaft on the vlf made of a RV scrubber tube - came out real coolo. i'll post it only Once if i do ~ haha. jonesin' for Finumation' been over a month now. have to try some lower Oregon G~country , may try that 8"er too. sorry bout the Pic repeat - ken
 
I did an air test with my Infinium using a 1 gram nugget and the 8 mono - the coil didn't see the nugget at two inches in air test - it saw it at 1 in. but faint and would not give the high/ low tone till I touched it on the coil. I was disappointed soooo - decided to actually bury the 1 gram nugget at 3 in. the 8 mono gave a loud Hi/low - then buried it at 4 in. and again good hi/low but more faint - then at 5 in. a light hi/low but digable and at 6 in. it disappeared with the 8 mono. I might have found it at 6 in. if I had scrubbed the ground with the coil. I'M THINKING AIR TEST ARE NOTHING MORE THAN AIR TEST AND CAN'T TRUELY BE COMPARED TO BURIED TARGETS! I was happy with the results and glad I took the time to test. I'll test the 10x14 DD with the 1 gram nugget next. Also, this was freshly burier (no halo) so this type test may not be a true result for a 1 gram nugget at 6 inches. I was still happy with the results

Ray

If you dig it out pack it back in.
 
[attachment 236648 goldfromcrack.JPG]Hi Ken -

I never got to test the 10x14 DD because I sent the whole machine back to Garrett to cure a falsing problem with the coils. It has been 10 - 11 days now and have heard nothing. As soon as it returns I want to do a nugget test with the 8 mono verses the 10x14 DD and now I have an AT Gold so I will test it along with the Infinium test - I am anxious to see the results. I do know the 8 inch mono has surprised me for depth. I have a straight shaft for the Infinium and with the belt mounted control box and the 8 mono it makes one hell of great hunting machine for all day use. I only had the straight shaft for about a week before I had to send the unit back but was impressed with the all day comfort when hunting. I want to make a video but have no experience so we'll see. It may be bad but I will try to post it. I have a Canon 7D to use for the video so the quality will be good I hope.
Altho I was disappointed with the Infinium I learned something about it when I received the AT Gold. Took the Gold to a highly mineralized stream where I had hunted with the Infinium. The Infinium, after ground balancing, ran pretty darned smooth and ignored the multitude of hot rocks and allowed me to find what I was looking for - I was looking for cracks in the bedrock that were holding lead. I was looking for lead because gold in this brook is known to be fine - 1Grain minus mostly. Well, I was surprised to see the nice little pickers I dug from the crack. see the attached photo. When I went back with the AT Gold I was not able to get the machine to ignore all the hot rocks and hunting the same ground I had gone over with the Infinium was impossible because of hot rock signals. I would balance out one form of hot rock only to have others sound off. I am going to go back there and play with the ground balance window function on the Gold to see if I can repeat the finds I made with the Infinium......as soon as it stops raining.............
 
Hey Ray ~ I did a Little Research b4 going to that so-Oreg area we stayed at for a week. Rich in major Gold history and reason that area developed (Jacksonville/Grants pass) . The area of the quartz vein (China gulch) & Small creek (off applegate river) the Lobo ST-vlf was not much help to Finny for Discerning good Targets. In the Small creek (believe poss. 2 deep Nuggets to return to) Lobo was responding similar to Gold tones on Cinnabar (merc. ore pebbles) ,i could show a couple pics - the Infinium did not pick these up as targets at all. Alot of it there - only at the creek location , but it's known to be in the immediate area. in other words ~ at the quartzy area the lobo squaks at hot rocks but misses the fine gold in the quartz that Finny hears. (i've had that happen twice now. Finny performs awesome in the tough conditions for VLF. Good luck , Talk soon - Ken
 
Well, it finally stopped raining up here in Northern Vermont! Looks like a good weekend coming and I plan to spend it swinging and digging and panning. Hopefully more little pickers are awaiting to adorn my poke!!! Will report back ASAP on my results with the ATG - nothing from Garrett on my Infinium yet! Only been two weeks so hope next week I will see it
 
Ken~Digs said:
Hey Ray ~ I did a Little Research b4 going to that so-Oreg area we stayed at for a week. Rich in major Gold history and reason that area developed (Jacksonville/Grants pass) . The area of the quartz vein (China gulch) & Small creek (off applegate river) the Lobo ST-vlf was not much help to Finny for Discerning good Targets. In the Small creek (believe poss. 2 deep Nuggets to return to) Lobo was responding similar to Gold tones on Cinnabar (merc. ore pebbles) ,i could show a couple pics - the Infinium did not pick these up as targets at all. Alot of it there - only at the creek location , but it's known to be in the immediate area. in other words ~ at the quartzy area the lobo squaks at hot rocks but misses the fine gold in the quartz that Finny hears. (i've had that happen twice now. Finny performs awesome in the tough conditions for VLF. Good luck , Talk soon - Ken
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HI Ken,
Good to hear that your Infinium is performing well.
I have found that my Lobo St does a fair job of identiying postive hot rocks in that most hot rocks will ground balance out quickly with a 2 or 3 pumps of the coil and even faster in the Alkali mineral position, whereas gold will not balance out unless it is a very weak signal or the nugget is very small and imbeded in high iron minerals.
I have not tried to balance out cinnabar but I would would have thought that it would not be a problem.
I have used my LST in some pretty nasty ground and have not had to operate out of the Normal mineral position for other than ground checking purposes.
 
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