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Garrett GTI2500 or Whites DFX ???

Either that or China will come in and just pay the American detector manufacturers so much money they won't be able to turn it down. Wirechief, CET.:coiltec:
 
Same to you bud. Haven't been in Socorro in decades. Is White Sands still operating strong and is the old Atomic Bar still there?

Bill
 
You're my kind of guy John. Keep up the good work. I used to do all my business with D&K Detectors here in Portland when my friends Dino and Kay owned it. They treated everyone like family. After they sold out it sort of went to the dogs. I had thought about buying it from them and wish now I had. People need the friendly local dealer.

Bill
 
Most of what we buy and use in this country now comes from China, much of it sold to us by U.S. companies located in China. There are over 1000 U.S. companies over there now and more moving in every day. All the big auto companies from around the world are investing tens of billions of dollars in China as we speak. China owns a large portion of our national debt - they might as well own the rest of us.


Bill
 
Thanks Bill and I just like doing business the old fashion way. I'm not into this for the money, if I were I sure as heck would not have chosen to sell metal detectors! CU later Bill and Happy New Year. de John the Wirechief, CET.:garrett::minelab::tesoro::coiltec::detecting:
 
That's right Bill America has lost the game already and it is truly a GLOBAL economy. Our so called elected officials just keep selling us out and lining their pockets! Well enuff of that, are you making any big finds over the holiday? de John the Wirechief, CET.:detecting::garrett:
 
Yeah one ain't going to get rich selling detectors unless they're a big operation like Kellyco. I tinkered with the idea of selling detectors several times but always backed out but it's a labor of love with most. And the old fashioned way is still the best way. Just wish there was more of it out there. Have a great New Year.

Bill
 
No finds for me. Our weather is lousy. The West Coast has been slammed with one storm after another. I'm sick of it and can't wait till it goes away.

Bill
 
Yes the white sands range is still there, The owl bar is still going but the buckhorn bar across the street has better burgers. The smaller gold in the pic is from drywashing, so I got the Stinger out and hit that spot and did well. It takes a little to get use to the Stinger but for the dirt here in N.M. it works ok. I took it to AZ. and it didnt like the highly mineralized soil there. Any way if you are in the area give me a buzz and we will go up to my claims for the day and give it heck. Stay in touch.

Kelly
Socorro
N.M.
 
I'd love to but at this stage of the game doubt if I'll ever make it. I've been all over that state and up in the Sandia Mountains. Spent some time in Albuquerque many moons ago when Glen Campbell, the country singer, was a teenager and singing in his uncle's band at the Hitching Post bar up on the West Mesa outside of Albuquerque. Now I really dated myself. HA.

Bill
 
Uncle Willy.
Glen cambell, That was many moons ago, Do you have any ideas on the TR mode on the stinger? I would like to know how to use it for ore bodies. The book that came with the detector says something about useing the TR mode for it. Wish I knew you when you were here in N.M. Bet we could have had some fun.

Kelly
 
Hi Willy. Sounds like you have been in the metal detector hobby for a long time.I do not even have a detector yet but have to put in my opinion on local small dealers. Dealt in stereo equipment for last 35 years as small dealer. Sold new at beginning,but big box stores and discounters ruined profitability for us. THey sold for less than my end column price! And got key city advertizing dollars to boot! Now now internet. Trouble is what use to be a hobby of audio enthusiasts driving the mfgrs. to keep improving the product and dependent on knowlegdable dealers to educate the customer and be educated about the products themselves has now bcome an industry of build as cheap as can for Walmart and the rest. THis leaves the MFG company at the mercy of the volume sellers with little or no warehouse stock for more than a month if that, a poorer product in quality with engineering balanced to low cost production. I would prefer a company that has not sold its sole yet, builds for a good profit, builds quality for the detectorists enthusiats only, has a small dealer support group who is loyal to them and visa versa. But if we all keep stressing just price, that is exactly what we will get at the expense of quality. THat is why I sell just used stereos and the ones most sought after are built in the 70s, are still working today. Unfortunately the new ones perform better but are built like crap and I doubt will still be working in 20 years. Is this what has happened to the metal detector industry in the last 35 years? Every one now seems to plan on being in business one quarter year at a time. Quarterly profits or bust. Whats your take on it? Gene
 
I would prefer a company that has not sold its soul yet, builds for a fair profit, builds quality for the detectorists/enthusiats, has a small dealer support group who is loyal to them and visa versa. But if we all keep stressing just price, that is exactly what we will get at the expense of quality.

If these are the things you are looking for, then you have found a good brand to focus on: Garrett. You pretty much described Mr Charles Garretts philosophy in a nutshell. Now, I tend to be a Garrett man, but I can say the same about the Tesoro line as well. Dont stray too far from these two and your needs will be met for as long as needed.

Would any of you disagree?

David
 
Hi Bud,
If you have the manual go to page 24 and it explains how to use the TR mode for hot rocks and sampling. You can go to the Garrett site and copy a manual if you are shy one.. You can also contact Mary at Garrett and she can give you some tips.
The last time I spent any time in NM I wasn't into metal detecting yet. I was waterdogging - seining water dogs out of stock tanks on the big ranches all over the Southwest to be transported back to Nevada and sold for bass bait all over Lake Mead and the Colorado River. Best bass bait there is. Yeah we could have had some fun. I was wilder than a March hare back then. HAA.

Bill
 
You pretty well nailed it. Since I've been around since Hector was a pup I've seen all the changes and the phases this country and its consumerism has gone through. The big conglomerates have ruined it for all but themselves. Look at Wal-Mart, they tell their manufacturers and suppliers every move to make, even where to manufacture their product to provide the best price to Wal-mart. Wal-Mart alone has sent more manufacturers overseas than anyone else. They just tell them, if you want to do business with us, close your plant here and move your operation to some third world country where the labor costs eighteen cents per hour.

Bentonville, where Sam Walton started it all, used to be a little farm town, now it's a thriving metropolis. Wal-Mart informed all of its suppliers that if they wished to do business with them then they would move their headquarters to Bentonville, and so it came to pass and the tiny town exploded into a large city. Course prices ( especially real estate ) went out of sight and the folks that lived there all their lives can't afford to live there anymore.

Consumate greed has ruined this country and will continue to eat away at it till nothing is left. The reason all the illegals are allowed to flood into this country is because big business wants them here and big business controls our government. They want to get enough in here to destroy the wage base in this country so more profit can be reaped. And that day is coming at you fast.
The metal detector manufacturers don't quite operate on this scale as their consumer base is specialized and small so they have to take care of their customers.
You're right about the stereos and such from the seventies. I have a couple and they'll last forever whereas the cheapo crap built today is designed to self destruct in a given time. Even the new homes one buys are built of cheap crap and covered with glitz to hide it all. I live in an old house that is built of real two by fours and real two by sixes, all of prime Douglas Fir. You can't even find or buy this kind of lumber anymore.

Bill
 
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