G2 on coins and deep silver

[rockpup1]

When you mean blip-is this just audio or VDI.I dont think mines working right.I will try again bury a old copper penny at 8" and see if it will pick it up.I really dont think it did(even all-metal).that would be up to the handle on my leshe and it would not go past the blade.

Im not that stressed about it.It will be getting fixed for prospecting next year and the new white's vx3 I am getting (hopefully soon) will solve my deep silver problem.I wasnt after such a expensive machine but for the price I can get a new one for I am sold.I will still use the bug as its much more light weight and compact-it will travel everywhere with me.The vx3 be kinda my sports car machine lol.

 

[Jason oldsouth]

Also, has anyone tried the Sun Ray Probe with the G2...I have heard mixed feelings on this also...Some say it works, some say no, don't even try...
I know Ralph does NOT recommend it.


HH,

I know I'm a few days late on this question, but It works great on my G2 . Not trying to get O/T but just wanted to let you know that. I have a small thread several post down with my findings.

HH

 

[ExpIInut]

Well mesured my leshe digger.So I guess Im getting about 6 " on a copper penny,silver dime.6 1/2 - 7" on a quarter.This claim may be less as I will try again with a measuring tape(hoping it does better)

Soil is 68 in all metal.I was at 100 gain and 0 disc.Soil was moist not dry for once.No EMi Problems(never really does-super good for that)
I was surpised myself and with my lack of coins at this old school I have spent hours at,I had to do some testing.I dont think it did much better or any better in all-metal.

I guess thats not that bad(for a 5" coil that is).I could only get about 6" with my MXT and eagle spectrum with a 5" coil.The gold bug pro is finding me alot of clad my other machines simply miss or are masked by trash(does not bad at all on canadian clad).By far the best modern park machine I have had.I just Know there is deep silver in some places I go and that 5x10 coil should give me 8" in Disc mode.

It may be my machine as the + key does not work from time to time.I will be sending in when the snow falls for repairs and maybe a look over to make sure shes getting all the depth it can.

I find I do good on the beach as I uncover alot of blips I hear and pul out coins at good depth,but I have to uncover to get some sort of VDI.

It found my first metal detector gold nugget and thats what I bought it for anyway-just works great in the parks 2 boot.I find its depth on foil and low conductive objects very good.This I have not tested.

I found this a little curious, why set the discrim at 0 instead off hunting in true all metal mode? I've had a G2 for a while now and will only hunt in AM even in the trashy areas I search. Here's my settings - All Metal with threshold on 6 - whilst hunting in all metal for DEEPER targets I'm listening for a signal with ONLY an audio response as the numbers on the screen are meaningless at this point - if you leave the machine in discrim mode and set at ZERO you will miss DEEPER targets - go SLOWLY and I mean slow - I just wish that Teknetics would make a larger coil for this machine - I'm convinced it would be a killer on the un-ploughed land we have here in the UK

 

[sgoss66]

aliensr --

A couple of things...

Yes, digging deep whispers CAN be futile; it depends upon the site. A trashy park can be frustrating, but still -- I find most trash is semi-shallow. Only iron nails do I usually find deeper. But, at an old, old site, I would dig all of the softer-sounding, repeatable hits. I guess what I am saying is, this machine really hits HARD on shallower coins, but due to the VCO audio on this particular machine, I personally find the deeper stuff to hit much more subtle and soft. In disc. mode, numbers will jump around more when the targets are deep (in fact, if TOO deep, the numbers won't show up at all) -- but generally they will still be in a "range" of numbers that are pretty good. While a dime won't necessarily hit at 83/84 if it is 6-7" deep, it should generally respond with numbers in the 70s and 80s...

I honestly can't give you a "personal success per time" feel as for digging those deep, soft hits, as I don't usually grab this machine on a day when I'm focused solely on deep coin shooting (I have another that I use for that purpose). I have found deeper coins, though, when on more of a clad or jewelry hunt. My general impressions, though, are that it does as well, "percent-wise," as other machines do in terms of how much "good stuff" per how much "trash," when trying to dig the deeper, "iffier" targets. It's about knowing your site, knowing the ground and what's in it, and knowing your machine. Can digging those soft hits be frustrating at some sites, where deep trash abounds? Absolutely, and I wouldn't try it at a site like that, unless the site was REALLY old, and I thought had a chance of yielding some really old silver or copper coins.

What helped me the most was having a test garden, with lots of coins buried at different measured depths. Running the Bug through the garden, and paying attention to how the deep coins sound, is what helped me to understand how the machine responds to those targets, and then to know what to listen for.

As for picking the coins from the trash...if you are in a really trashy area, and you just want to hit coins, then if I were you I'd run the disc. WAY up. If you don't mind missing nickels and zincs (and any rare piece of gold jewelry), then run your disc. up to 80, and see what happens. You'll be AMAZED at how quiet your machine will run, ignoring all the trash, and yet nailing the coins. If you move slow, you'll find the coins between and among the pieces of trash. Give it a try. I'm not suggesting to hunt this way all the time, but if you are at a site that you know has lots of coins AND lots of trash, try it. The DD coil and very fast recovery speed will allow you to pick out the coins from the crap.

Finally, I agree that hunting a trashy park would be tough in all-metals mode. But, if you are in the right spot -- say, a really old site where you know there are deep goodies, it might be worth it...

good post Steve. I'm curious if there is anything more (telltales) on these 'whispers' to try and increase the probability of digging something decent.
It would seem that just digging deep whispers would be pretty futile (I took some statistics classes in college). I mean there's an awful lot of 'deeper crap' buried. Can you elaborate any more? Your personal success/per time used digging these?
And BTW I bit the bullet and have been a G2 owner for a while now. personally I got it for (based on reputation) lightweight, quiet hunting for clad/rings.
It works for that purpose. I really haven't paid any attention to 'whisper' signals.
Do you look for consistent higher #'s over a small range to dig these?
The downside for me (in general) is that I need to find places (parks/schools) that are low on trash or I find it to be impossible to find clad amongst the crap. The frustration factor gets me out of those places pretty quick and I just won't waste my time. Lower trash sports fields are good to go....
oh, and I've only used disc. all metal seems too intimidating/noisy/not useful (at least for me). It just doesn't seem to be useful as a park hunter in all metal but I could be wrong....