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Friendly hello and some questions about Tesoro's!!

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nor10

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Hello everyone. I first wanted to say that this is my first post on the findmall forums. Secondly, due to 53' Silver's videos and all the great things everyone says on here about the Tesoro brand detectors, I am now considering buying a Tesoro Outlaw or the Golden uMax.

I currently own a Teknetics G2 and absolutely love it. I have had a Garrett AT Pro in the past and started out on the Ace 250. My wife owns an Etrac which I absolutely cant stand to use. The slow swing speed and the complexity of it makes it unenjoyeable for me. I live in PA and have high hopes of detecting for civil war relics some day which I think my G2 will fill that role nicely. I have found that most of our hunting time lately has been mostly spent in parks and such hunting for coins and I have actually become fond of it. I also have some old home sites (one of which I have harvested a nice 1901 IH cent from) we will continue to hunt in the fall when the weeds are not so predominate. I am really looking for a good coin detector to compliment my G2. I was really determined to buy the Omega 8000 and then I started reading about the Tesoro's and that sparked my interest.

So with that little bit of history on myself and my hunting goals I have a few questions regarding Tesoro's.

#1. With my detecting experience being limited to detectors that offer visual Target Identification, will it be a huge adjustment to hunting with sound only?

#2. Is it hard to tell the depth of a target with a Tesoro?

#3. Is the discrimination and notch features easy to use and understand? ( I love detectors that are simple to use and lightweight, major things I look for in a new detector)

#4. Does the discrimination actually work as well as some of the videos I have seen?

Anything else all you Tesoro experts could add that may help me would be greatly appreciated.
 
Welcome aboard nor10. I have the Gold Bug Pro (G2) and like it a lot. If you like fast response speeds and light weight, you're going to love Tesoro detectors.

I just recently bought a Silver uMax and fell in love with it. It has become one of my favorite detectors to use.

tabman
 
I had a lot of tesoros over the years, there are super fast durable, and the golden is my favorite ive used the tones and the notch system makes this one of the best coin / jewelry platform detector I used, as for knowing how deep it is , is does incorporate a overload tone that lets the user know the target is really close to the coil , I have the Atpro and the change to tone ID is rather simple no problems at all, welcome aboard, hank
 
Thanks for the replies. Has either of you used the new Outlaw yet?

I just noticed in your signature tabman that you have an Omega 8000. What do you think of it as a coin machine?
 
#1 I switched from a VDI# machine to a Tesoro and there was no problem.
#2 Im not real good at guessing depth. If a coin is laying flat and close to the surface I know it. Otherwise there are just too many variables.
#3 The discrimination could not be easier. Not qualified to comment on the notch.
#4 All three of my units discriminated well. The tesoro no better or worse than the other 2.

I like my Tesoro because it is simple to operate, lightweight , only takes a single 9 volt battery,and has a lifetime warranty. Most importantly, the good finds I have made with it.
 
nor10 said:
Thanks for the replies. Has either of you used the new Outlaw yet?
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I have. It's one super nice detector. For an all round detector, I'd pick the Outlaw over the Golden. If I was solely searching for gold jewelry in trashy parks, I'd pick the Golden over the Outlaw. Get both! :)

tabman
 
#1. With my detecting experience being limited to detectors that offer visual Target Identification, will it be a huge adjustment to hunting with sound only?
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Adjusting to hunting by Sound only is much easier than the Visual Display. That being said, why adjust buy a Cortez or Deleon. Both these are display Detectors. They get no respect here in this forum but Phinbolt and I are trying to change that. Saying that I still would not trade my Golden Saber II for another Cortez. Golden Saber II is no longer made and is very much like the Golden Umax.

#2. Is it hard to tell the depth of a target with a Tesoro?
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Cortez and Deleon gives the depth just like the other brands. Only thing is that using Cortez or the Sound only detectors, you soon learn the sound of the hit which tells you about how deep it is and before long you find that you hardly ever look to see the display.

#3. Is the discrimination and notch features easy to use and understand? ( I love detectors that are simple to use and lightweight, major things I look for in a new detector)
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Discrimination features are way over rated. The only thing Coin hunters like me need to knock out is iron. If you want to find good things leave discrimination real low and concentrate on the Notch or learn your TID readings. In fairly decent areas I do not use Notch at all but in Trashy areas you do need a Narrow Notch. This is an area where I do not like the Cortez and Deleon in that Notch is preset, where the Golden is adjustable.

#4. Does the discrimination actually work as well as some of the videos I have seen?
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Yes discrimination works well. Only thing is that high discrimination will cost you up to at least 50% of your depth on Nickels, but you can Cherry pick high value Coins all day long, as long as you understand you will lose all Rings and Nickels. This is true on all Brands not just Tesoro.

Don't be fooled by the high price of other detectors you can add at least a $1000 dollars to your purchase and not gain a thing with another brand. I have spent a lot of money on detectors and owned all the Major brands. Right now all my detectors are Tesoro but I prefer a Garrett Pin Pointer which I own as well as 2 Whites Bullseyes.
 
I have had several brands of detectors and can honestly tell you for everyday use in parks, soccer fields and neighborhood yards there is none better than Tesoro. I have the new Golden Umax and love it, super light weight and coin tone really stands out. This is one detector. I will not get rid of period! Hopes this helps. By the way I am a Newbie also with Tesoro.
HH
Mike
 
Hi nor10 - welcome to the forum. The Outlaw is one of Tesoros best detectors. It's so versatile, adaptable to a wide variety of hunts. With that said, right now, my one / two punch is the Outlaw and Golden uMax. Where the Outlaw has an excellent disc circuit, is deep and offers ground balancing, making it ideal for any hunting venue, the Golden with its tones and notch make it invaluable for coin shooting in any recreation area. I had an Etrac myself, great detector, for me it was over kill. I always take two detectors out with me when ever I go hunting. As tabman said, if you can, get both.
 
So would the Golden uMax be a better coin detector than the Outlaw in most cases? I cant get over what a great deal the Outlaw seems to be with the 3 coils and lower rods packaged with the detector. And I love your video 53' Silver on the Golden uMax's different tones and disc abilities. I am sooo stuck between the 2, UGH!!!!!
 
nor10 said:
I am also a bit concerned about the Golden uMax not having a ground balance feature....
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If I were a Coin Hunter I would be more concerned about the Outlaw not having a Notch feature. After digging all those tabs you will wish it did.
 
nor10 said:
I am also a bit concerned about the Golden uMax not having a ground balance feature....
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It is a tough decision, thats why I own five Tesoros now. I wouldn't be too concerned about ground balancing, unless you have highly mineralized soil. You can't make a bad decision with either. Just be carefull, once get your first Tesoro, you'll want them all, trust me.
 
Not in question number order or all of them for that matter:
Personally, I think a non-target ID detector can provide an excellent education in observation that can help get even better results when going back to a target ID detector; at least it has for me. I frequently grab one of the "simpler" detectors for many outings.

A discriminator can be adjusted to find out where the target goes away. That is actually a form of target ID. When you have a discriminated out target that is sitting closer to the surface than a desired target you can actually mask the desired target out of the picture. You can set up tests to see how that works and how a slower sweep can and coming at a target from different directions can help expose the masked target; even with a fast response detector.

Depth information can be gotten by sizing a target and raising the coil to see when the target is no longer detected. With the Tejon in VCO mode, deeper targets are also lower tone. In that mode with that detector, not a need to raise the coil to add information.

Listening to the sound, the smoothness of a beep or a beep with sharp edges and breaking up provides information.

What part of PA? I think there are a couple of frequent posters who are in PA. PA covers a fair amount of land with various geological areas and pockets, but I think most of PA is considered fairly mild soil. I'm sure there are some exceptions. I think if you got reasonable depth with the Ace 250 in your area, then you will be happy with the results of even the non-adjustable ground balance models.

If you go for one of the beep and dig units, once you learn the detector, thumbing the adjustable discriminator lets you do a pretty good job of picking out coins. When you turn the discriminator up on these units you do loose some detection depth. You learn to factor that in as you work through the hunt you are on.

I have a Compadre, Cibola and Tejon. Also have a Sand Shark for the beach and some other detectors from other manufactures.
Cheers,
tvr
 
mike5853 said:
Hi nor10 - welcome to the forum. The Outlaw is one of Tesoros best detectors. It's so versatile, adaptable to a wide variety of hunts. With that said, right now, my one / two punch is the Outlaw and Golden uMax. Where the Outlaw has an excellent disc circuit, is deep and offers ground balancing, making it ideal for any hunting venue, the Golden with its tones and notch make it invaluable for coin shooting in any recreation area. I had an Etrac myself, great detector, for me it was over kill. I always take two detectors out with me when ever I go hunting. As tabman said, if you can, get both.
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Mike said it and so did Tabman. Welcome to the forum. If these great guys can't answer your questions, give me a call. I will help you out.
 
The way I see it, Tesoro gives you an opportunity to rock with the big guns at fair prices. The Compadre, although not the deepest, is the most unbelievable detector for the price. The Vaquero gives you good depth and the g/b you'll probably need and it's made some really nice finds. Although you can thumb the discriminator,, Tesoro's give their own "language" on digging decisions-but NO discrimination is perfect. The signal varies, giving you an estimate of the depth. I have no trouble getting info from the signals I encounter. I can get size, a reasonable estimate of conductivity, approximate depth, and almost spot-on pinpointing from just moving the coil over the target. I believe the Outlaw is close to the " Silver umax in a special package"-just my humble opinion-so if between those two I would've gone for the outlaw if they'd had it back then.
 
I am now leaning heavily towards the Golden uMax as i like the tone ids and the notch features it has. Now i need to talk to some teknetics guys and get the scoop on the Omega 8000 before i make my final decision.
Oh and tvr asked what part of Pa i live in. I live in the south central part of Pa. I am very close to Gettysburg which feeds my desire to hunt relics with my G2. Now if i can get this whole coin detector dilemna figured out i will be happy. Thanks to every one who has commented so far.
 
You wil love the GU!
HH
Mike
 
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