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Found Brand New CZ-70 Pro on E-bay
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richrider99
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You all did well! I confess I posted the comments to see who would step up and defend the newer F70 & F75! Look 189 hits in one day! When you look at reviews on
line for both the F75 & the CZ-70 Pro they have great reviews 4.7 stars out of 5. I just wanted to see how many bee's fly out the hive when I hit it with a stick. The Fisher
F75 is a great detectors with lot of new improvements over the CZ units. I still like the hip mount of the CZ & I have been using the for the last 12 years. So I hate me if
you want, I will always own a Fisher
Thank you for all the great replays to my post !
And to all the new people starting out, both the F75 & the CZ-70 Pro are top end Detectors they sell for around $1000 when new.
line for both the F75 & the CZ-70 Pro they have great reviews 4.7 stars out of 5. I just wanted to see how many bee's fly out the hive when I hit it with a stick. The Fisher
F75 is a great detectors with lot of new improvements over the CZ units. I still like the hip mount of the CZ & I have been using the for the last 12 years. So I hate me if
you want, I will always own a Fisher
Thank you for all the great replays to my post !
And to all the new people starting out, both the F75 & the CZ-70 Pro are top end Detectors they sell for around $1000 when new.
Oh no i am not hearing a little CZ bashing am I. you guys have got to understand that the CZ line is a proven detector platform through most of the U.S.A. and most of you have owned one or more, they may not work as well in your soil as the F75 and I'm sure you enjoy yours . I love my CZ, but i am also open to the possibilities of new and better products. now here in Michigan it is hard to compete with an Explorer and where your detecting you might have the edge. In my opinion and in my ground here in Mi. i say there so close that it is the operator of the machine and the amount of research one puts in that puts finds in the goodie bag. I've never used or handled a F75 or 70 but if you watch you tube videos[which i know is no comparison to in the field use] it sure seems like that ID has a hard time locking on to even shallow targets. so i guess for some of us it is kinda tough to let go of our stable CZ's Thanks guy HH. Tim 
BuckeyeBrad
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a lot of times the game changes. Or more specifically, in our hobby, the game NEEDS to change when the playing field is staying the same (I don't know of any old or silver coins, war relics, etc, that are still being lost or have been for a long long time) and getting worn out. I've always liked and owned almost all of the CZ's. They've found a lot of great stuff for me and still are very capable in the right hands at the right sites. But allowing for the fact that most sites have been hunted hard for years, the game has changed to favor detectors that are less prone to masking. It's not by accident that manufacturers, particularly First Texas, have moved towards that direction. I've taken my F series and Tek stuff in where I'd hunted for years with CZ's and Explorers. The new rules of the game becomes pretty evident if you bother to do that.
Brad, I do agree with a large % of your post, Believe me it's kinda tough detecting behind the Explorer models here in my ground. But how many times have you detected the same area with the same detector and came away with finds that you could not believe you or someone else did not pull out of the ground.
I would say that most of us CZ users and former users understand most of the limitations like the iron false 's and mediocre target separation, but i think user error is just as significant. I'll tell ya Brad I thought i was very good at over lapping my sweeps but as soon as you detect in the snow you see just how lax most of us are, it's a real wake up call. That brings me to the thought that maybe the double D coil configuration is just a superior means of correcting most of our poor sweep skills. I just think to much, you guys are gonna say no Tim it just find more stuff
I would say that most of us CZ users and former users understand most of the limitations like the iron false 's and mediocre target separation, but i think user error is just as significant. I'll tell ya Brad I thought i was very good at over lapping my sweeps but as soon as you detect in the snow you see just how lax most of us are, it's a real wake up call. That brings me to the thought that maybe the double D coil configuration is just a superior means of correcting most of our poor sweep skills. I just think to much, you guys are gonna say no Tim it just find more stuff
I had been a cz user since 1992, cz6 and cz3d, before getting my F 75 in April of 07. Before 07 ended, I had sold the cz 6 and then sold the 3d last summer. For my kind of hunting, coins and jewelry on trashy sites, my cz's paled by comparison to my F 75 in that turf envirement. Good luck with your 70 pro, but do give an F70 or 75 a try. HH jim tn
BuckeyeBrad
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you just keep doing all that thinking because that is what has led you to the place and knowledge that you have and how you will get more yet. A lot of people don't bother. I can't shut the thinking stuff down until I sleep, well there are a couple other things that makes me forget about detecting and detectors. 
IMO you certainly are correct in how sometimes you can take just about anything behind anything else and make some finds that surprise you. In addition to that, I've seen over the years that there is a lot of cause and effect of making finds or the lack thereof due to current and varying geophysical conditions. It can change daily and even during the day. It can be the difference between finding surface clad and hearing that find of a lifetime. That's one of the main reasons why I don't assume simply finding something after another detector means the second detector is superior. However if one hunts a lot with different detectors in varying conditions and actually starts to see a trend where one detector or one type of detector seems to pull this off more, then you're getting closer to drawing a conclusion. I primarily only trust one type of "test" in order to form semi-firm opinions and that is head to head comparison of the same target at the same time with whatever detectors you are working with. Of course I only have one detector powered up at a time and try almost every conceivable adjustment to make sure each detector is hearing the target to the best of it's abilities. I could go on and on but this is the jist of it.
IMO you certainly are correct in how sometimes you can take just about anything behind anything else and make some finds that surprise you. In addition to that, I've seen over the years that there is a lot of cause and effect of making finds or the lack thereof due to current and varying geophysical conditions. It can change daily and even during the day. It can be the difference between finding surface clad and hearing that find of a lifetime. That's one of the main reasons why I don't assume simply finding something after another detector means the second detector is superior. However if one hunts a lot with different detectors in varying conditions and actually starts to see a trend where one detector or one type of detector seems to pull this off more, then you're getting closer to drawing a conclusion. I primarily only trust one type of "test" in order to form semi-firm opinions and that is head to head comparison of the same target at the same time with whatever detectors you are working with. Of course I only have one detector powered up at a time and try almost every conceivable adjustment to make sure each detector is hearing the target to the best of it's abilities. I could go on and on but this is the jist of it.BarnacleBill
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I believe you are correct, and that it is related to Space Weather(Sun Spot Activity, Magnetic Storms, MUF(Propagation) etc. And when I'm old & retired, & really really bored, I may try to prove a correlation. And those fools at NASA think they need to launch multi-million dollar satellites when it can be researched with a Bounty Hunter. 
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BuckeyeBrad
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Bill, you wouldn't believe how many of my local buds I've mentioned this to and they looked at me like I was on something only to come back later after they'd really worked a site over a long period of time and admit that there was something to it.
Jmaryt, Sounds like a just for men commercial on TV. if you want to stay in the game LOL. But seriously me and my wife both use CZ's and most would say we are both in the top 5 or 6 in the largest TH club in Michigan, i stopped even entering in the find of the month category because folks were getting mad at me and i felt that it wasn't worth tickin people off. The CZ platform is still viable. And i kinda have to politely disagree with you on your remarks above and add if you want to stay in the game you have to love and implement sound research into your THing. And about the geophysical and sun spots and other factors, they probably do factor in to some degree, but not as much as the human condition and by that i mean just getting off our butt's and swinging the coil. The equation goes like this. Research + time in the field = finds in your pouch. The people detect the most find more stuff. HH. Tim
i agree!..there is no substitute for proper research,and knowing one's equipment,plus time in the field...i have used both,the cz-70,and the f-75 for coinshooting,and in MY opinion,the f-75 IS the better hunter for ME for the sites i choose to hunt!..mostly old trash choked parks,schools,and other public places!..again!..in MY experience with BOTH detectors,the f-75 separates better and goes just as deep as the cz-70.
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I have used my 5 inch coil on my CZ6a in sites loaded with trash, nails, etc. and have pulled up rings and merc dimes where I never thought possible. To hunt in a place that requires separation and non-masking of targets, the small coil is a must.
A plus with the small coil is you can up the sensitivity and still hunt quiet without falsing.
A plus with the small coil is you can up the sensitivity and still hunt quiet without falsing.
lots of times the 6" concentric coil on the f-75 is used,however the 11" (d.d) coil will also separate very well in the dense trash too!..to clarify!.have also used the 5" hockey puck of the cz-70 in the trash,and STILL coil for coil,in MY experience,have found the f-75 with either the 11',or the 6" coil to be the superior hunter!
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Although I can't speak for the cz70, I can compare results of the cz6, cz3d and the F 75 coils and I agree with you j.t. For me, on some of the same sites, the F 75 DD and its smaller coil gave me considerabley better results then the cz's stock and smaller hockey puck coil, ever did. HH jim tn
the .cz family of detectors are very deep hunters,however in my experience the f-75 with it's combination of coils will TRUMP the cz's in all hunting scenarios,with the possible exception of a cz with a 10" concentric coil in a open area scenario with limited trash present!...maybe a slight edge in depth gain to the cz.
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