Trackerman
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Hello i was wondering for gold rings what would be the best setting on the silver umax. Currently i have it set to the o in foil and sens to 9. It seems to work pretty well there but no gold rings yet any ideas?
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For gold rings any setting recomendations on the silver umax
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snoop & scoop
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I set all of my units at one mark before the nickel. Sensitivity at 8-9. You will dig a lot of trash, but thats part of the game, as rings fall into the pulltab area of the detector.
I go a little lower than that. Like halfway between the iron and foil mark.
I picked that point after testing the rings we had in the house. I found that some of the nicer rings with decorative metal work as well as multiple stones (meaning more small metal cross sections) showed up in the foil range. Small thin gold bands also show up foil range. Most of the gold earrings show up in the foil range.
There will be a lot of trash to dig at that setting.
tvr
I picked that point after testing the rings we had in the house. I found that some of the nicer rings with decorative metal work as well as multiple stones (meaning more small metal cross sections) showed up in the foil range. Small thin gold bands also show up foil range. Most of the gold earrings show up in the foil range.
There will be a lot of trash to dig at that setting.
tvr
foiled again tab hunter
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Neil
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foiled again tab hunter said:
absolutely and no higher than that or your missing gold. lots of rings fall in the iron to nickel range, the foil range that is. only the larger ones end up in the pulltab range. also this lower range gets the earrings like you said, plus the charms, chains, bracelets, lots of smaller or hollow gold that doesnt weigh much.
small iron is all you should be knocking out at the most.
Setting it directly on iron (on mine) gets the MAJORITY of gold rings yet all the way down gets the small gold. Monte even suggests MINIMUM disc. Now to get gold EARRINGS and tiny gold in tot lots, go to a/m mode. It is not a true a/m mode but it is close enough that the nails and paper clips will let you know! So in tot lots a/m mode since there is usually no digging, just raking back the bark chips or gravel..foiled again tab hunter said:
rick (nova scotia)
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Neil said:
Agreed.
You need all the sens + depth = power, if you will, you can get.
At "foil" you'll likely be missing 95% of what's out there.
Any disc. at all VS. AM you've already lost about half your depth capability.
Get yourself a ring in the 1.5 to 2 gram range and test your machine at different settings. Don't forget to try different angles, they are not always lying perfectly flat (parallel to the coil)
Neil
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here is a pic of my cibola with the disc set at where my last two rings will NOT even make a response. the ring on the right is 14k, the other one is 10k.
I didnt find them with my Cibola, found them at the ocean with my etrac but the readings were both 11 05 which is really low. I just tested them on the cibola and thats what I found, so if your setting your disc higher than that or even at that setting, think of all your missing. fact of it all is you gotta dig a ton of junk to get the gold, no matter if I use my etrac or cibola or others, all the same. no such thing as magic settings, notching will kill your finds also. small iron at the most on the disc and I hunt a range, small iron to zinc penny, never seen a piece of gold jewelry hit higher so thats good enough for me.
I didnt find them with my Cibola, found them at the ocean with my etrac but the readings were both 11 05 which is really low. I just tested them on the cibola and thats what I found, so if your setting your disc higher than that or even at that setting, think of all your missing. fact of it all is you gotta dig a ton of junk to get the gold, no matter if I use my etrac or cibola or others, all the same. no such thing as magic settings, notching will kill your finds also. small iron at the most on the disc and I hunt a range, small iron to zinc penny, never seen a piece of gold jewelry hit higher so thats good enough for me.
I watched a giant gold ring come from the ground once that MY Silver Sabre read out as a pulltab. My friend with an XLT saw information I did not, and he dug it. I stood there agape.
The thing to do is recognize the limitations of the Silver. It is only a ranging detector, ie, it can only tell you the general range of a targets ID. In essence it is a "dig it all" detector. Given time, you can begin to read some subtely from some pulltabs, particualrly the beavertail variety. Foil, too, has a fast fade rate.
But in general if you want to dig gold rings with a Silver uMax, do these things:
A) Be where gold rings are.
B) Set it just above iron and dig all signals that sound good.
The thing to do is recognize the limitations of the Silver. It is only a ranging detector, ie, it can only tell you the general range of a targets ID. In essence it is a "dig it all" detector. Given time, you can begin to read some subtely from some pulltabs, particualrly the beavertail variety. Foil, too, has a fast fade rate.
But in general if you want to dig gold rings with a Silver uMax, do these things:
A) Be where gold rings are.
B) Set it just above iron and dig all signals that sound good.
silversmith
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What also helps, with the cheaper detectors, is dig with an icepick. You'll learn quickly how not to scar coins. The ice pick will go through tinfoil easily, you'll feel it penetrate and know. Once you pinpoint the target with the icepick you move it over a little and bury it into the soil. Then you push and pull the handle back and forth making a slot on the lawn/soil. you can then slip your finger into the slot, feel the coin and easily work it out. Getting up you step on the slot, it disappears and NO ONE can find where you dug. You can carry the tool in your back pocket, handle down, no one can see it and your carrying around visible HOLE DIGGER. This is all I dig with in Tot-lots, parks, any place where there is a lawn, and have been many years. I know, lots of jitters about sticking your in the ground, but the "sluicing" of the icepick back and forth pretty well tells you whats in the slot. I've never poked or cut my finger using this method. There is an icepick out there that unscrews from the handle. If you go to a leather shop you can buy a line marker. The icepick will fit into that marker giving you a LONG icepick.
Oh, grind off the sharp point now and then so the point will skate on objects rather than put a hole in them.
Oh, grind off the sharp point now and then so the point will skate on objects rather than put a hole in them.
Yeah-and the great thing about it is sometimes you'll get a broken signal and it will be a target next to trash that would normally blank out the target. I have found several QUARTERS just an inch or two under the ground and when I retrieved the quarter and rechecked the hoe in a/m, I got a huge iron signalJohn (Ma) said:
Also, I am by no means a pro, but on my Silver uMax... if I have it set at Iron, I probably would pass right over the smaller engagement rings. used to have it set to the o in Foil... but tried an experiment... put a small gold engagement ring style ring under the ground at 3 inches. Would have passed right over it with Disc at Iron never mind the o in foil. For me anyways, and my Silver uMax, seems either min. disc or AM mode. That same ring in AM mode, rang nicely. When I put it on edge... it gave a sort of double blip. Interesting. Have not tried an experiment yet in MIN disc. Just Iron and up. Have not found gold yet... but I have not yet hunted in the AM mode only etc - yet. Will now though.
Willee - Texas
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Trackerman said:
Well the big question is ... are you hunting where gold rings are lost?
Are you beach hunting, park hunting, schoolyard, tot lot, old church yards, ... where?
If you are at the beach ... set the discrinination to "0" and recover everything that makes a beep.
If it is metal ... it dont belong on the beach ... and if it is gold or silver it belongs in your pocket.
Make it easy for yourself and others in the future ... clean the beach of ALL metal you can find.
You will reep the benefits on your return trip.
If it is a park or school yard ... the same thing applies.
Recover all metal and your return trips will expose new and deeper goodies.
Oh Yeah ... just one more thing ... The Silver U-Max is for silver rings.
The Golden U-Max is for gold rings ...
Willee
OK, think ya'll are yanking me chain. 
Tonight I did find rings 7 & 8. So far of the 8 rings, I 'think' the breakdown is:
#1 - Copper, costume
#2 - Silver, its stamped and has what appears to be a tiny diamond, probably not real
#3 - Gold (plated) I think, has a tiger eye in the middle with 2 diamonds on either side (probably not real). Scratch the gold and what looks to be copper underneath
#4 - Black with silver color (where scratched) and colored flowers (appear to be turquois)
#5 - Black on the inside of it, fairly thick, turquois stones on outside surrounding the band. Not sure what the metal is.
#6 - Possible gold plated again, appears silvery in color where scratched... stone missing, bummer.
#7 - Possible Gold plated again, was bent to heck, had one large sapphire still in ring, second one was missing, dug it out in the dark, too bad would have looked for the second stone. Think its gold
plated because I see a silvery color where scratched.
#8 - Plated again, silvery color underneath, like a ladies size nugget ring.
All in all, I "think" I have indeed hit the gold plated stuff... but thing stamped to be sure, sigh. However, am getting better, basically got the past 5-6 rings in the past 2-3 weeks. Fun stuff.
Now I need to buy me an electronic machine that can hopefully tell me what they are all indeed made of.
Have found a good amoutn of silver stamped other items though, some with diamonds, pretty sure they must be fake though as I can't imagine they would put even real timy diamonds in a silver item.
Sooooooo, still missing solid gold, as far as I know... fun hunting though. Heck, even the copper costume one was fun to dig out. Lol.
The hunt continues... can't wait to hit that first stamped solid gold. Gotta be there somewhere. (-;
Tonight I did find rings 7 & 8. So far of the 8 rings, I 'think' the breakdown is:
#1 - Copper, costume
#2 - Silver, its stamped and has what appears to be a tiny diamond, probably not real
#3 - Gold (plated) I think, has a tiger eye in the middle with 2 diamonds on either side (probably not real). Scratch the gold and what looks to be copper underneath
#4 - Black with silver color (where scratched) and colored flowers (appear to be turquois)
#5 - Black on the inside of it, fairly thick, turquois stones on outside surrounding the band. Not sure what the metal is.
#6 - Possible gold plated again, appears silvery in color where scratched... stone missing, bummer.
#7 - Possible Gold plated again, was bent to heck, had one large sapphire still in ring, second one was missing, dug it out in the dark, too bad would have looked for the second stone. Think its gold
plated because I see a silvery color where scratched.
#8 - Plated again, silvery color underneath, like a ladies size nugget ring.
All in all, I "think" I have indeed hit the gold plated stuff... but thing stamped to be sure, sigh. However, am getting better, basically got the past 5-6 rings in the past 2-3 weeks. Fun stuff.
Now I need to buy me an electronic machine that can hopefully tell me what they are all indeed made of.
Have found a good amoutn of silver stamped other items though, some with diamonds, pretty sure they must be fake though as I can't imagine they would put even real timy diamonds in a silver item.
Sooooooo, still missing solid gold, as far as I know... fun hunting though. Heck, even the copper costume one was fun to dig out. Lol.
The hunt continues... can't wait to hit that first stamped solid gold. Gotta be there somewhere. (-;