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Fisher vs. MXT

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Every time I go out to detect a site, I see these guys with the new Fishers. They tell me that Fisher is better than the MXT. Has anyone tried out the Fisher? if so, how did you like it?
The other day I was detecting and a guy came up and said I had a problem. I asked what? he said my detector. He said that Whites a "not so good" detector. He said I should sell my MXT and get a Fisher. It kind of pissed me off, but didn't say anything. He wanted to see if the detector worked like they said it would....he threw down a baffo and wanted me to swipe it...I did and it read 5cents. He said that the display detectors are a bad design and that he only listens to tones...said it's better this way.
Anyways, why would these guys be hounding the MXT or even Whites detectors? Is there something I'm missing about Fisher?
Thanks for reading
 
Hi Justin,
First of all, what kind of Fisher are you talking about?
I have a CZ-5 and an MXT. I like them both very much but they are very different machines. That said, they have similar performance as far as depth of detection. Which one has the edge will depend on the exact locale and type of targets.
In general I prefer the CZ-5 for coin detecting as it is quieter and I like the tones. The MXT is very high gain and so a bit on the noisy side.
The MXT has a preference for gold and nickels and will correctly identify small gold items the CZ-5 calls iron. So I think the MXT has a bit of an edge for jewelry. It certainly is the superior unit if prospecting were a use to be considered.
But I still like my CZ-5 for just plain coin detecting. Sometimes it just comes down to the feel and the sound, and I like the way the CZ-5 feels on my arm, and the crisp tones it puts out. I do use the MXT in relic mode for the same reason... the high tone jumps out and grabs me.
I tend to agree with the guy, however, when it comes to displays. I hunt by ear, and if I watch meters it just messes with my head. I do like depth reading, however. And there are times the readouts do offer helpful clues as to whether to dig or not. I figure if you have a display you can ignore it if you want or use it if you please. No display, no choice.
Bottom line is I've used a truck load of detectors in the last 30 years. Don't let others sway you. If you like your machine, and you are happy with your finds then just ignore them and have fun. An experienced operator of almost any detector will do better than a novice with a "better" detector.
I currently have three Fishers, a Garrett, a Minelab, and a White's so I suppose you could say I have a preference for Fisher if you count numbers. But the reasopn I have the other brands is that they do things my Fisher units will not. No one brand has a corner on being the "best".
Steve Herschbach
 
Sounds to me like they might be worried about the MXT soppin' up all of the coins out there <img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol">.
On a serious note this is the way I see it.....
As a multi-line dealer I see a lot of pros and cons with every metal detector. There is no perfect detector out there. The most effective detector out there will be in the hands of someone who has taken the time and patience to learn it inside and out and has 100% confidence in it...no matter what brand it is. I have a hunting partner that can take a 14 year old Eagle II and run circles around most current top end detectors because he knows it so well. The guy with the Fisher detector may feel like that because that is the one he knows so well. Or...he could just be an a## hole.
Fisher does make a fine detector....but the MXT you are using is far from inferior.
Stick to what you feel is right and it will reward you <img src="/metal/html/grin.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":grin">.
HH,
Brian
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It wont discourage me! I love my detector and I agree, it all depends on how much you know your detector. I'm still learning the bells and whistles and I know it will pay off.
Thanks for the input Brian and have a good weekend.
 
Keep your MXT, those guys like to hunt by audio should be using a Shadow X5. No matter what top of the line brand detector whether its Garrett, Minelab, Fisher, Whites, a Time Ranger etc , its how well you know your machine. hh
 
that was an excellent post. The only thing "I" disagree with is the "feel" of the CZ5. It kills me to use mine rod mounted. I much prefer the balance of my MXT. The new ID Excel is a joy to swing though. The weight and balance are near perfect.
Like you said, they all have their advantages and disadvantages depending on what and where you are hunting. I think all of the "top-line" machines from all manufacturers are great units. In the right hands, they're all the "best".
Good hunting,
Otto...
 
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Hey Brian, I don't think anyone could have said it BETTER! I hunt land with an MXT, and also a Minelab Excal, and have done well with both. But, I'm still learning the MXT, and I'm going to put in the time with it. I also own a Fisher CZ-20, and they make an excellent detector, but I don't use it on land hunting, even though I could. LOL/HH. NamVetLesTreasureSeeker
 
Hi Guys,
Well, I tend to use my 5" coil on the CZ-5, so maybe that makes a difference. Funny, though, as you do get differing opinions on the feel issue. I have small hands, and so round grips seem to work better for me than pistol style grips.
Another thing about the CZ is it does chest mount, and so makes a nicer wading unit than the MXT.
But the snow just, as of the last day or two, melted off one of my favorite coin detecting sites. It has good potential for jewelry, and so I'm going to hit it with my MXT. I really am torn between the MXT and CZ-5 so have done what any detector nut does... keeps them both.
Anyway, hopefully I'll have some MXT finds to post soon!
Steve Herschbach
 
Look down under the topic , Bench Testing . I found those two tiny quartz pieces with my Gold Bug . In a test the MXT found them also and although there is gold in both samples , there isn't much .
 
I've an mxt and a cz5, both are good,with different strengths. I use the mxt with a hotfoot coil mostly.I like both machines but prefer the mxt, just my personal preference.
 
I like the smaller grips too as I also have small hands. I have to use the chest harness when I use the CZ5 for any length of time. Like you, I have both machines for the same reasons, although the Excel may win out over the CZ5. Only time in the field will tell. Haven't got to use it enough yet.
Good hunting,
Otto...
 
I have never used a fisher so I cant say anything about them. I can say this about the MXT though. I am 2 and I have no intention of getting rid of either. I bought the second one for my wife. I agree that in some places it is a little noisy, but if you put in a little time with it you will get use to it.
 
Use breeds familiariy, you can buy two detectors that do the same thing but they do it in different ways, once you become proficient with one brand or model your success rate climbs and that will be the best dam detector made on both sides of the Mississippi. Last weekend my detecting buddy and I went to an old boy scout camp, he has using a Bounty Hunter Time Ranger and it did not stop him from finding a 1844 large cent, I was so envious I almost had to kick his butt.
 
My other half wants to know if you've got more funny pictures to post. She watches this forum for your posts hoping you added them.
 
Fishers had set the standard for years when it came to depth on deep coins. They also were the machine to beat on the beach. However, here's a little test you can try with a CZ (and perhaps the newer models). Take a pull tab and swing it under the coil three or four inches away. Adjust the discrimination to just knock out the pull tab. Now sweep the pull tab under the coil and increase the distance with each sweep. At about five or six inches the detector will begin to accept the tab again. Now you know the secret to the depth on a Fisher. It's basicly hunting in all metal at depths greater than 6 inches. This also explains it's preference for deep iron. The discrimination circuit on a Fisher is very primative compared to just about any Whites.
 
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