Fisher F5 5 inch search coil. Anyone out there tried it?

[Judge]

Hello "Still looking 52",,I to am open to learn and by coming here,We get the advantage of hearing what other's do in other setting's.To be honest,with the Tone ID setting's,I am inexperienced.I know many seem to enjoy knowing what to dig,before touching the soil.Just by cowinkiedink I realized the D1 setting.As you said,It set's it into a Tone and Dig unit.,Your exactly right!!..Only the tone dim's and can be loud for shallow targets.(Like the old radio shacks)lol,.Only for the first time in my life,I used the head phones..Now I could get these little bleep's that bare ear,I wouldnt notice..I started digging them and sure enough,they were goodies.Very deep goodies.,I never hit so many good items as I have since.I know if in high traffic area's,I might miss alot of shallow targets,but the peeps,they were always very deep.Digging deep targets,Sent my chances of older relics and coins up much higher than I ever had.Horse bridal item's,IH cents,Some silver.Before D1,I dug alot of clad,Some jewelry and once in awhile some Roosevelt and Washington silver.Now I feel like I have buck fever.Just knowing the range of item's I can get,I cant go back to clad again..lol,.Yank a few Barbers out,I will never go back to chasing clad.Many Mason Jar lid's with the ceramic insert's come up to.I do not always hit J-pot,but I do alot more than I ever did before.Mike Mentioned there may be a manner to combine them both.As you stated,I have alot of growing with the F5 as well.Is so much to learn.I guess the Gain in the D1 mode can make the subtle peeps louder.I am afraid,because where I have things set,I am able to judge by the subtle tone,What items to dig for depth.Only I am digging blind..Also digging deeper targets,one dont dig as many holes in a day.Please let me know what you think when you go out next and try it. You hit it dead on,A "TONE and DIG UNIT",... low subtle means far away and loud,strong,means shallow.I think that may be what Fisher means by deeper targets,cant trust the display as much.I think the directions should of covered all this more,But I think it's their manner to get folks to learn the units.Nice to meet you,,Best of luck.I will show pictures if I find anything great this weekend.Enjoy..

 

[Mike Hillis]

Hi Judge,
In the All Metal (AM) mode, the tone options are A1 through A4. The tone option selected in AM carries over to the pinpoint mode. So if you select the highest tone pitch (A4) in All Metal, that is also the pitch you will also hear in Pinpoint mode. I am in-between F5's right now so I can't verify for you if the pitch selected in All Metal will carry over to the D1 tone in Discrimination mode. But it is worth a look to see if it does. Sometimes a slight change in pitch is all you need for certain targets to pop out at you as you may hear them better. I know the F75 LTD/DST and the Omega 8500 do this but I forget if the F5 does. Worth a look to see, though as it is very helpful when using the D1 and D2 audio modes.
HH
Mike

 

[still looking 52]

Hey Judge, my normal set up for silver hunting is 4 tone, discrimination at 50, threshold at-2 ,gain 70, 11" DD coil, and always closed ear phones for better hearing those faint signals your talking about. My theory for weather to dig or not is if I can get the slightest high tone with passing the coil over the target and get a reading in any two directions then I'm digging, of course if you get a reading in all 4 directions that's even better. The only time I would recommend hunting in all metal mode is if the site is fairly clean.

 

[dfmike]

Personally I prefer D2. At the least I need the a clear audio separation between ferrous and non ferrous targets. It has the advantage of giving more depth than the 4 tone mode as well. I used to cherry pick in 4 tone mode but one gets so used to being alert to the highest tone that it's easy to start ignoring the rest and start digging only when that sweet high note plays. I guess if somebody is only looking for silver, it makes more sense to stay in 4 tone.

 

[Judge]

Hello,DFMIKE-MIKEH-"Still looking52",,,,I appreciate all the info.I realize the F5 was out long before I got mine,Just starting my second season.You guy's already have upgraded,lol,.I started hitting in the D1,turning the unit into a Tone and Dig unit Like Still52 mentioned.I was under the impression the tone ID function,didnt alter in strength.But I got close minded once I experienced Victory using D1.Never in my life did I yank targets out so deep.Like DFMike said when he hunted silver in D4,we get into patterns that stunt's from other aspect's.The friend I hunt with,mid70's Army Vet.He has wore out many units in his time.He has a hearing aid and dont use phones.He runs a Garrett 1500 that is 14 yrs old.He set's the Threshold to a loud whine.I thought at first he did this because of his hearing,..He showed me his trophy Binder's from his detecting exploit's.My mouth hit the floor.He has found some amazing and expensive items.He is honest to,Isnt fibbing.What Advantage could that give? Have either of you ever used such a unit?The F5 instruction's tell's to set mine to the direct point the slight backround hum starts.He,has his up so loud,lol,.Car's even look driving bye.,lol,.He dont gradually add more,He start's off with it maxed..His is also Automatic GB,it's the only setting he does and he's off hunting.My F5,wont even function like he is running his..If I ever see one in nice shape,I am buying one.Must be something with the threshold maxed like that.It is like a loud screen sound.I guess back when he got it,Was one of the better unit's.Many thanks for the tip's,I am going to try them all.Hopefully this weekend.Sat and Sun is still looking good for here.Hope you all are so lucky (Winter hunts)..Regards....

 

[Judge]

Hello,My friend and I did get out Sunday,today-2-21-16.....First place was a dud,then went to local fair ground's,Atop the hill is a patch of rich old woods,with old trees and some dead.I had my fisher F5 with 5 inch coil,if not for the coil,I couldnt of got in where I found this Small Gold/Silver frog pin.It must of grew and shifted in tight as the tree grew.Was about a 75 yr old Tree I figure by guessing.I literally had the coil side-ways and heard one peep.I had it in D1 "Tone and Dig mode"..I tried to upload pictures but I cannot for some reason.The bottom is silver,and the top has white beads where the warts on a frog would be,then what I THINK is glass eye's,One was missing.A few of the white beads are off as well.A thick Gold covering,then had the beads stuck in the gold.I cannot make out what it says on under-side.Each time I would forget,the defualt setting for D-tones starts at D2.If I shut off the unit for a break,and forgot to manually put it back in D1,It would switch to D2,in which back to tone ID targeting mode.The D1 uses the same ID sound,and the intensity help's in figuring depth of the item.It showed as flickering between Dime and Quarter.Was a "U" shaped crevace I kept working the soil out and presto.Seeing the gold on top,I thought it was solid at first and was jumping up and down.When folk's ask if we lose depth switching to smaller coil,I dont notice it with my Fisher brand 5' inch.At first Dud spot,It was settled in 1804 school house,So I dug any deep signal's.The first was about 13 inches on a Old Coor's beer can.Was so deep it read Quarter..Past 8 inches,One cannot count on Target Id for any unit.In fact,I am NEVER removing my Fisher 5 inch coil.I even use it as a pointer as its so small and lighter.The experienced friend I hunt with,he has me looking for old rotted cut tree stumps.Another outting,He focused on those and found a Barber Half in VF and a 1919 Mercury Dime.The guy who felled the old tree must of lost the change.I've been having more fun by old rich tree's in the woods.The pin I found today,probably kids sneaking out of carnival,to set up in the tree's and !@#$%...,The pin was the hit of the day.It's about a half inch long and pin is intact.I am going to keep it as Keepsake.Its not minty,but I love it.I dont understand why I cant get the picture uploaded,It's under the size they say ..The other odd find was a German 10 phennig coin.We figured it was mixed in someones change and they tossed it.Plenty of clad quarters and dimes.I know it's close minded of me,But I am never not using D1 "Tone and Dig Mode."..Make's it easier to sort out the deeper targets from shallow.Shut your machine off,next time back on ,Switches to D2, (Default auto setting).Must re set it back after ground balancing procedure when restarting it up again. I had it in AM to set GB,then I turned the Scrim to "TAB" nix level,then Switch to D1,and off hunting..Will still try to get a picture of the Frog pin loaded.

 

[dfmike]

The F5 doesn't memorize tone settings unfortunately. I'm looking forward to seeing your pin. Post it in "Today's Finds" forum.

 

[still looking 52]

Hey Judge, nice hearing about your latest hunt, sounds like your having some real fun with that f5. My brother and myself went out Saturday and got a nice hunt in ourselves and I messed around with those tone settings like you were talking about, what I found out with my f5 was all my tones(1-4) have dimenishing audio by that I mean the deeper the target the fainter the sound. That's why I'm always listening for those faint signals, that's were the silver is hiding. On this last hunt I found 25 coins but no sliver, my brother found one silver dime and a silver ring.

 

[Judge]

Hello Still Looking 52,and DFMIKE,,,,,,,,,,I appreciate both your reply's as with my medical issue's,I dont get to try a real lot without putting the time in.I didnt realize all setting's have diminishing tone level's for depth.This is the reason I keep using D1..Each time I shut my unit off,It would start back at D2 and Id have to keep remembering after GB procedure to reset it back...After cleaning the pin,,,The entire pin is Solid silver,but the top before the Beads and glass Eyes were set,They did it into Gold that was thickly plated.At first I was jumping up and down thinking it might of been Solid gold.We all know how nice silver and Gold preserves under soil.Seeing the shining gold after a spit rub,lol,..But to be honest,I was over-joyed and it was a huge find for me.The first year's I got into the hobby I spent At carnival ground's and would get alot of Clad.But Carl,the Older friend,has been in the hobby for many decades and I am listening to his advice.Rather than dig alot of clad and hope for a Jewelry hit,He has got me going to the woods.He says its best to not get as many hits,But when we do,Chances are its a goodie...The old stump's,even going around those,and he has had some amazing finds.I find I enjoy the tree hunting alot with the 5' inch coil.It get's into spot's I couldnt of with the larger coils.After seeing his binder and the stories he writes by each of how and where they were dug,I will have many wooded area in my future.I appreciate the tip.When time out is so precious,we do get caught in sticking in same patterns and never advancing tactic's.I will start trying the other setting's.Like you mentioned "Still looking 52",those faint sound's,chances go up for them being good find's.Carl told me,He looks for the rotted stumps because the tree fellers often set and eat lunch on the stump they just cut,or kneeling around to cut,Would lose coins.Those silver one's I am chasing to.,lol,.Nice your brother found a ring and a silver Dime.It's the getting out in the sunshine that make's even slow days worth it.As long as our machines are turned on,the chance's are there.I again tried to upload the pin,a pop up saying "You failed to attach any files,please try again.DFMIKE mentioned another spot to try to upload,I'll see if I can there."Still Looking52",,your trial with the audio tone's,is precious information..It take's time to check out all these setting's,Hope I can help sometime in that manner.Many thanks...

 

[Judge]

Hello,,Still Looking 52' & DfMike,,,,I tried to upload images and cant seem to.I went to "Todays finds forum" and still couldnt.I tried to load a picture of the pin as my Avatar,still cant for some reason.When I waive the cursor over the picture in my file,it says 2.35MB,,,I am unsure if that is larger than this will accept.The one time,It said changes saved,But picture still didnt show in "My photos",or my Avatar's.,lol,.Also wanted to say I was sorry to Lizz for monopolizing the thread she started.I am a newb here and am unsure of proper method's of posting.I see even picture's member's posted on this thread,so must be something I am doing wrong.You all have neat find's for your Avatar images.My Frog pin could be mine if I get this ironed out.lol,.

 

[dfmike]

Hello,,Still Looking 52' & DfMike,,,,I tried to upload images and cant seem to.I went to "Todays finds forum" and still couldnt.I tried to load a picture of the pin as my Avatar,still cant for some reason.When I waive the cursor over the picture in my file,it says 2.35MB,,,I am unsure if that is larger than this will accept.The one time,It said changes saved,But picture still didnt show in "My photos",or my Avatar's.,lol,.Also wanted to say I was sorry to Lizz for monopolizing the thread she started.I am a newb here and am unsure of proper method's of posting.I see even picture's member's posted on this thread,so must be something I am doing wrong.You all have neat find's for your Avatar images.My Frog pin could be mine if I get this ironed out.lol,.

The file size is way too big. You will have to downsize quite a bit to post it here. I don't remember the exact maximum size allowed in these forums but it's posted somewhere. Your file is presently 2350 KB and I would think that around 100 KB would be acceptable here. There are many programs out there that can be used for resizing images. You probably have one that came with your digital camera. Others that I know of that are free on the net are Irfan View and XnView.

As for an avatar picture that will have to be even smaller. I think the maximum size allowed is posted in your Control Center. That's located next to your name when you log in here. My avatar image for example is 100 X 83 pixels only and it takes up only 7.7 KB of space.

 

[still looking 52]

Judge, if you hit the up load file button it will tell you the max size you can up load is 480KB. I'm not an expert by any means on this up load process, I use a cell phone to look at the forum and make my post, it might be different on a home computer but on my phone there is a way to down size your pictures to the correct size and it will tell you the size before you try to up load.