First time out with my new Tejon

[digitrich]

Missed the TID of my other machines.
Was quite simplistic to use.
Found two lead bullets, 1 brass shotgun casing, 3 large iron buckles and cattle rings (which still hit above the iron I disced out), several small pieces of brass and aluminum.
This was impressive to me as I only hunted for an hour and this is in a site I have gridded and pounded with ML SE's, Etrac, F-75 and would be a similar haul with any one of those.
Had a difficult time finding or even realizing what was clean ground to GB on.
I tried to hunt all metal and use the alt disc to find out if my target was not iron. I gave up on that quick as it would have taken me all day to get ten feet. I was in thick iron. I just hunted with the primary disc set to foil and dug anything that beeped in 3-4 directions.
A couple nails I dug that gave a good beep, I found I had bumped the disc knob down to iron and let it in. That was annoying. What a crappy place to put the disc knob. Better would be the threshold knob as that you could hear if it was accidentally changed.
I can see why people love this as a relic machine, she does love lead and brass and large iron. If it had different tones for ID, it would be a beast.
Never dug anything real deep but I'll figure that out.

 

[digitrich]

I have a wavering in my threshold tone in all metal, instead of a steady consistent threshold, it goes in and out, is this normal?

 

[John (Ma)]

Mine does the same thing with the threshold, so I assumed it was normal coming in and out with the tone.

 

[therover]

Dig,

Is this a brand new Tejon or a used one. There were reports that the older Tejons were very hot machines and if you had one where the threshold was not stable and the machine 'chatty' at the higher sensitivity levels, it was a very deep machine.

Not sure how true, but my Tejon is like that and goes very deep. I hardly run mine at the highest sensitivity levels and I am still finding brass items ( buckles, casings, etc.) 10-12 inches down
in discriminate mode and with them hitting hard. No mistaking the hits as false signals. In addition, it's a GREAT dry sand unit, especially with the 5.75 concentric coil. It can separate out the iron trash and hit hard on foil, aluminum and GOLD. Can't get close to the wet salt sand though...the machine goes crazy ( at least mine does).

I think the more you use the Tejon, the more you will like it. It has it's quirks,but tt is a really easy and fun machine to use. Also, I learned from the forums that getting O rings for the knobs so they don't move is a good investment.

JC

 

[Denar]

Put O rings on all pot shafts, except Ground Balance. You need a good, matching headphones; set disc just below foil, tone approx. 2 PM, sensivity slightly past 10. Loud, wide, and giving secondary signal close to the coil is near allways large iron - ignore or dig. You need at least several weeks to learn what Tejon is saying to you, and you will realise that it is the best detector on the market.

 

[tab-nabit]

Takes a little to get used to how the Tejon is - it's a chatty machine to me, but that's the Tejon. A small coil (5.75) is a nice coil for areas that are a bit trashy.

 

[amcjavelin]

just a recieved a tejon today myself and it is a chatty machine but i don't mind it and it goes deep, this machine in my ground the balance stays in tune better than my vaq does, my first finds with it were to brass lamp mantles about close to a foot down and some old iron bits and a buckle, it's definitly a relic machine for sure, really like the double disc trigger

 

[digitrich]

Brand spanking new. Pretty thing Will take all's advice on the O-rings. And I can only hope this is one of the tweaked hot machines, because that's the way I hunt em.

 

[John (Ma)]

Everyone says how chatty the Tejon is, it is no more chatty than my DFX was in trashy areas. I think it is a pretty good running machine, just has one tone that can make it a little tricky, rather than my DFX with varied tones. Maybe it is the one tone that tends for people to think its more chatty? For all that just got a Tejon, enjoy! I love mine.

 

[Neil]

I have a wavering in my threshold tone in all metal, instead of a steady consistent threshold, it goes in and out, is this normal?

The threshold on mine wavers a bit also. Give it a little time before you ground balance it each time you turn it on and it will GB easier, at least thats how mine is. I beach hunt mine, set the disc just at iron to knock out the small stuff (disc 1). It gets really good depth.

HH
Neil

 

[VaRelics]

I hear some people say the Tejon is a chatty machine. Actually it is one of the most stable machines I have used. Anyone who's claims its chatty doesn't know how to adjust the machine for their conditions. I run mine up at 10 on the sensitivity and its completely quiet until I get a good target under the coil.(silent search on discriminate.) If I get near a EMF source such as a power line I just dial the sensitivity back to around 8 and it works perfectly (quiet).

Regards,

VaRelics

 

[trueblue]

if ya go ahead and do the O'ring mod on ya Tejon digitrich It would pay to keep an eye on it over time as it can do the reverse with fiction loosening the pot nuts , Its happen on mine , the other alternative is to remove the GB Knob as pointed out to me by Monte , mine has a very wavery thershold aswell I think its the norm on all Tejons and if Thomas is correct as he suggests in his Tejon notes the theory of 2 thresolds prehaps that explain it

 

[therover]

You have to adjust the sensitivity to your environment. You don't have to run the Tejon at full blast to get excellent results.

'Chatty' can mean different things to different people. I know my Tejon can go a bit 'chatty' or erratic when the sensitivity is set too high at certain sites, or when I start to get toward the wet, salt sand on the beach. Other sites, even at high sensitivity, it runs smooth and quiet.

But, you can still run it 'chatty' and hear the good targets sound out over the pops and clicks from ground minerals or small bits of trash. And if you don't like to run it that way, back of the sensitivity a bit.

All in all, one of the best detectors out there in terms of price point, warranty, features, depth, sensitivity toward lower conductive targets and coil selection.

 

[tvr]

Cutting my teeth on Fisher CZ's and a Cibola that are pretty much dead silent in discriminate mode until they hit a solid target, I have found the Tejon more chatty.

I like to run the sensitivity high and discrimination low. It generally sounds solidly and repeatably on good targets and clicks, cracks and pops on little tiny pieces of foil or can slaw. If there isn't too much of the chatter around I dig it to see what it is, hoping for small stud earring or a good backing for one or a small chain. Many of the pieces are just slivers of can or foil.

With sensitivity running in the 4 to 5 range it quiets down. I air tested it and found that there was a significant difference in air test depth running at 4 or 5 versus up around 10. It is chatty at 10 on the sensitivity, but pretty much hits solidly and repeatably on all but the can and foil slivers.
tvr

 

[VaRelics]

I run my Tejon on sensitivity at 10 99% of the time and get no chatter. If you get erratic sounds above 4 or 5 you should send your Tejon in to get it checked. I start with 10 and if I get the rare interference from external sources I slightly dial the sens. down usually to 9 or 8 will silence all noise. If I am hunting on discriminate and getting a lot of small iron I dial the discriminate up a little until I don't get the small iron and again the machine is very quiet. I think it is misleading to make a blanket statement that the Tejon is a chatty machine. The Tejon has many adjustments to accommodate most hunting environments (wet salty sand excluded). If you choose to run your machine wide open and it's erratic please say that instead of just making a general statement about the machine.

Regards,

VaRelics

Edit: I use my Tejon in South East Va where the soil is mild, maybe some one in less agreeable soil might have a different experience?

 

[digitrich]

That is not stated in this post, my machine is not chatty, the threshold wavers a bit, but nothing I would consider interfering with me hunting. Simple easy machine, wish I had tone ID, but works like it should. I was running my sensitivity at 9 under the power lines and slightly above 10, once further away and she behaved fine.

 

[digitrich]

Thanks, great info. Question, if you hunt with the first disc set above iron, should you set your threshold in all metal first, and then disc out the iron? Once you turn out iron you are not in all metal anymore and it is a silent search machine, BUT, many machines still need that threshold hurdle to judge what amplitude of signal to report or not. Is the Tejon like that, does anyone know?

 

[digitrich]

I think the best definition and use of chatty would be at what point can you run the machine hot and still tell the difference between a false and a deep smaller good signal. I don't know why, but I was instantly able to run mine hot and tell the difference. The falses didn't repeat when I re-swept at 90 degrees and the tone sounded like crap compared to a good signal. Now I wasn't digging anything deeper than 6-7 inches except for the large iron cattle rings that I hadn't quite disced out but I was in some of the densest iron trash you could find. I was impressed comparing the Tejon to other top of the line machines such as the DFX, Etrac, and the SE, F-75. It was kind of like using an F-75 without TID, or a screen. However, the Tejon was what, 550 bucks new with a lifetime warranty, that's not a bad value.

 

[jbow]

Mine is not chatty at all, it is very quiet and smooth unless I max the sens. I find that it works just fine with the sens just at the edge of the "overdirve".

I never use my big coil with the Tejon, only the 5.75. It is plenty deep and much easier to use. You can swing it as fast as you want to and it will hit on the goodies. The swing speed makes up for the coil size in the ammount of ground you can cover, especially hunting relics where there isn't a lot of trash.

HH,

Julien

 

[Neil]

I run my Tejon on sensitivity at 10 99% of the time and get no chatter. If you get erratic sounds above 4 or 5 you should send your Tejon in to get it checked. I start with 10 and if I get the rare interference from external sources I slightly dial the sens. down usually to 9 or 8 will silence all noise. If I am hunting on discriminate and getting a lot of small iron I dial the discriminate up a little until I don't get the small iron and again the machine is very quiet. I think it is misleading to make a blanket statement that the Tejon is a chatty machine. The Tejon has many adjustments to accommodate most hunting environments (wet salty sand excluded). If you choose to run your machine wide open and it's erratic please say that instead of just making a general statement about the machine.

Regards,

VaRelics

Edit: I use my Tejon in South East Va where the soil is mild, maybe some one in less agreeable soil might have a different experience?

Relics I can get my Tejon to work in the wet salt sand also but its not the best there by far. Im in NJ so this only applies on the beaches I hunt, cant say for anyone elses location that is. With my GB set up on the dry sand up near the dunes I am good to go until I hit the high tide mark then I have to turn up the disc to work the wet sand, turn it up to near nickel and turn the sens down a little. This is good down to the waterline as long as I dont let the coil hit the ground(then it will false). This gives me very little falsing but I loose the smaller gold.
Mine isnt chatty either, not the way I run it anyways. The last machine I had that was chatty would be the MXT. However my threshold is more like my pulse instead of like my minelabs.
HH
Neil