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F75

AzJack, I don't think it's a requirement from any manufacturer to buy their accessory coils. The nice thing about the X-Terra coils is that they can change the operating characteristics of the machine. The other manufacturer coils only change size, and you can spend hundreds on them as well. How long did we wait for small coils for the CoinStrike and ID-Edge? As far as the different units available today, they're all good in their own rite.

Good hunting,
OldeTymer
 
AzJack,

There have been many units from various manufacturer's that have had their "demons". There isn't one manufacturer that hasn't produced a troubled machine. As far as values go, most detectors held their value quite well until the Internet showed up. Now, it seems, people have so much money that they are willing to sell at any price to try the newest one. Many don't bother learning what their current unit will do before they are bad-mouthing it and off to another. Look at the resale price of the CoinStrike, and the ID-Excel. It's criminal I tell you. The same goes for many other brands, and models. I don't think any one brand, or model, holds an exclusive in this area.

Good hunting,
OldeTymer
 
Can't see why they won't. The coil forms are there and, since the C$ is essentially the same machine as the Goldstrike (which I own and it has the small elliptical coil on it) there should be few problems doing so. Personally, looking at what hijinks Fisher was up to prior to their 'purchase', I wonder if the company wasn't deliberately driven into the ground. Call me suspicious, but there seemed to be entirely too much dumba$$ floating around there to be natural.. or maybe my opinion of humanity is too high? ..Willy.
 
Why would anyone need every one of them anyway?

Get Real! :lol: :lol:
Tom
 
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?31,235995,236578#msg-236578

And that you had difficulty with a non-icon based detector is not surprising since you lasted about a week with the first T2 you owned, even though you made the following statement on the first day you received it.

"Anyway it is fun to test a machine and I will be very fair with the T2 and give it them time it takes for me to understand it before I judge it."

And within a week it was sold, right? Here's the link for you to refresh your memory: http://www.findmall.com/read.php?58,289379,289379#msg-289379

And hassling people, you made the following absolutist declaratory statement:

"The Xterra and and the T2 are miles apart in how good they are."

I asked you to qualify that statement, under what circumstances, for what purposes, and in what terrain? The answer you gave is generalized mumbo jumbo. Absolutely no documented side by side target comparison in different terrain. So if you consider being challenged on absolutist statements as being hassled, then don't make such inane asinine statements.

In regards to the T2 I have nothing for or against it, it is a piece of electronic gear with it's positives and negatives just like every other detector. Unfortunately you are one of the individuals that can't see beyond the tip of their nose. Whatever detector you hold in favor at the moment(used to be the XL Pro) is declared as the best detector to have. To whit, whoever doesn't blindly agree with "you" is closed minded.

I find it quite humorous that you consider me one of the individuals that takes the fun out of the forums. Especially when you are one of those that are consistently beseeching others to go out and test the latest detectors to help you in choosing a new machine. Yet you're not willing to get off your lazy azz and spend your own time, and money, to go out and provide the forum members with documented reviews of the machines.

So if the T2 is the "best" detector in the world then why do you own two other machines? They should serve no good purpose if the T2 is the "ultimate" detector excelling in all locations, under all conditions, for all target types. Obviously if you are willing to be honest, it does not excel in all matters, and therefore there are other detectors that provide better capabilities. The X-Terra's provide performance & feature capabilities that the T2 lacks, as do the CZ-20, CZ-70, Edge etc.

So why don't you stop being so closed minded and admit that all machines have their positives & negatives? Oh yeah, & Happy New Year!

HH
BarnacleBill

P.S. I personally edited this post to remove all the deleted expletives and derogatory appellations, and it took a very very long time.:rofl:
 
"The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him
 
What a way to finish up the year! Good old Santa comes through!

Hey Bill,

I've been wanting to get a Terra and seen an X-30 go for $200.00 on ebay and held off for a good used X-70 instead to compare against my T-2, Being the patient man I am good old Santa placed one on my lap for $399.00 with an extra coil "5X10" DD" to boot!

That's like getting the X-70 for $250.00 without the extra coil. Allot less than you wanting to get the T-2 for :rofl:

Looking forward to using the X-70 with the DD coil, I know the X-70 will be a good detector and it'll be an opportunity to see how well it fares against the T-2 for dry beach, fresh water wading and inland hunting.

Happy New Years,
Paul (Ca)
 
Ol' St. Nick had a real name..... guess it's Steve, eh? ;) I'll look forward to your comparo.
 
Hello Brad,

Yes, Good old Saint Nick was Steve from Alaska :) Steve called me and we completed the deal yesterday, He sure is one heck of a nice guy. I'm in X-Terra heaven right now looking forward to using the X-70.

My post above was really a fun reply to one of BarnacleBill's, Just wanted to show Barnacle the X-Terra as well as many other detectors suffer the same fate the T-2 has recently. No used detector is safe from selling way below value, I've seen a couple of other X-70's sell for rock bottom prices one with three coils for a hair over $400.00.

Yes, I do look forward to using the X-70 with the 5X10" DD coil. I know it's a winner and it'll be a good unit to compare against the T-2 especially on depth and separation, I plan on keeping the X-70 and modifying the unit to be better balanced. The batteries and ear-phone jack will be mounted to the rear and will use a different type of arm rest to conceal the 4-AA batteries.

Have a safe and Happy New Years!
Paul (Ca)
 
I asked you too be nice and your were not. You should be out detecting and finding some to the stuff we find instead of not finding anything and taking your lack of detecting skills out on people on the forum.

Happy nothing.

Lawrenzo

I sold my first T2 right away till Old Calif asked me to give it a second chance and six months latter I got the newest version and learned it...Didn't have the same the same expericne with the X-Terra stuck with it and didn't like it my other detectors proved to be better detectors to me.

Now we can see what Paul has to say and maybe if you can be nice he can be honest and I do hope his detector doesn't turn on all by itself.
 
I may even completely change the whole shaft setup mounting the meter housing onto an S-handle setup above the handgrip, One things for sure it'll have the batteries and ear-phone jack mounted underneath the arm-rest.

HH, Paul (Ca)
 
Can't waste anymore time with you being so mean. Some of us would rather detect and find relics and coins then just spend their time like you doing nothing but complain. Maybe you should give up this hobby and have your own radio show.
 
If you are going to mount batteries & headphone underneath, are you going to waterproof them, possibly even a permanently attached headphone set-up through a waterproof grommet? Cause invariably when I work rivers, streams, and tidal flats the back of the machine ends up in a pool of some nature.

HH
BarnacleBill
 
[quote DavHut]"The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him
 
As Ive said before, no one monkey stops the circus. Im sure Bill can handle a little difference of opinion.
 
Hey Bill,

My use for the X-70 will mainly be used for inland dirt hunting, With an occasional wading in fresh water so I will not be too concerned at the moment with a waterproof arm-rest battery compartment. However, Later in the summer months ahead that is a great idea and hopefully I can incorporate some type of waterproof compartment to protect the batteries and headphone connection from a sudden splash of water or long periods of being submerged.

I already have in mind "minds eye that is" what the X-70 will look like after the minor mod to the tail assembly is completed, I'll post the mod on the X-Terra forum once she's put back together. She will look far better than the stock version and hopefully even better balanced, A quick fun project and if I see other areas needing improvement I'll surely work on these areas as well.

HH, Paul (Ca)
 
Hey amigo,

Looking forward to detecting with you in a few weeks, I'll bring the T-2 and X-70 to search the old Chinese town for relics and old coins. Maybe even dig nugget signals since this area was flanked by miners of all nationalities and maybe several of these miners dropped some nuggets.

I admirer your commitment to the hobby, I can see why Jimmy Sierra trusted you and considered you a friend when jimmy first started in the business.

TEAMWORK, I always say we need to care about people, Help support one another in the pursuit of our hobby goals and those of the future. Work together to enhance individual effort, Encourage a friendly and productive environment.

Let's put behind us the mistakes people make including our own, Let's make 2007 a much better year and commit ourselves to the highest ethical level and in the best interest to the forums.

I pray you and Bill and many others on the forum can make amen's and start the new year acting with responsibly, I know I will try and strive to be open with communication with one another.

Happy New Years and see you soon,
Paul (Ca)
 
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