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F75 Programs

davkeene

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A "Monotone" tone, along with a "disc" of "6" has been recommended for the F75. Is there a depth loss by using disc. "6" versus "0" or even a disc. of say 10 or 15? What other settings are used with the monotone and disc. 6 settings? Eg.: De, Je, Pf or All Metal?
Also, would any of the F75 users provide their favorite programs for deep coins? This new F75 owner needs all the help he can get.
Thank you and HH.
 
The monotone at six with the DE setting is the best for using in iron infested hunting. It does the best job at "unmasking" good signals. When I'm not in heavy trash I use DE with disc. set at 0 and crank the sensitivity as high as the ground will allow. Many times I can run it at 90 sensitivity. I will use two tones as well if I'm relic hunting, or 3H tones if coin hunting. If too much chatter I'll boost the disc. to 21 so I can still hear gold rings. The VDI is a great help in deciding what to dig, along with listening to the signal.

Good luck, and keep on diggin'

jimmyk in Missouri
 
The program you have mentioned above is perfect for iron and trash it really helps unmask the iron. If you want to hunt turf I like 4 tone not 4H and a disc of 0 and a sens as high as you can go. The four tone is alot like the CZ3D so you want to dig the high tone and the next tone down from it for old coins. This is a deep program and if you get numbers that are lower then 20 see how deep they are and if they are deep they could be coins that the VDI has been lowered because of the depth.
 
I would like to know if:
#1. With the F75, is there a loss of depth increasing discrimination from "0" up thru,say "20"?

#2. When using a discrim. of "6" and "Monotone" in heavy iron/nails ground, what mode should be used, De, Je, Pf,
or All Metal?.

#3. Easiest/Best way to ground balance the F75? Please don't mind the questions. I really want to get off on the right foot
and I know you guys/gals will have the answers. The manual doesn't really explain everything. Thank you very much.
David.
 
I've tried many different settings and those already mentioned seem to be the deepest and give the best information, tone and vdi wise. My over all preference for coin hunting is de mode, disc. 0, sen. 90-95 and 4 tones if real old coins come into play, and if not, 3h. HH jim tn
 
#1 Yes, there is loss of depth.

#2 Nasa Tom says DE mode.

#3 I use the fast grab. I do it often. Have yet to manually ground balance, but I'm not that anal about it, so others may offer a better way.

keep on diggin'

jimmyk in Missouri
 
davkeene said:
A "Monotone" tone, along with a "disc" of "6" has been recommended for the F75. Is there a depth loss by using disc. "6" versus "0" or even a disc. of say 10 or 15? What other settings are used with the monotone and disc. 6 settings? Eg.: De, Je, Pf or All Metal?
Also, would any of the F75 users provide their favorite programs for deep coins? This new F75 owner needs all the help he can get.
Thank you and HH.

I have always found, that by using the " Mono Tone " as say to multi tone option, it gives you a more "precise" and clearer signal .I have obviously tried the various options with the F75 in tone range, but found that by using say "4" tones and JE mode there is a lot of "Ghost" signals coming through as well as the "Target" signals. I now only use Mono tone ,or 2 Tone only.


Question.
"Is there a depth loss by using disc. "6" versus "0" or even a disc. of say 10 or 15? " >>> Visualize your Discrim setting as a long Corridor of 65 windows .
When your in ALL METAL or Zero Discrim ,all 65 windows are OPEN."




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Every time you UP the discrimination by one setting ,you close a window on the strength of your " viewing ability" of the signal your detector was capable of receiving with all 65 windows open. Remember "window" is the operative word here. When you are still looking thru a closed window, your vision is slightly impaired as to what you could see if the window was open but your getting less draft & noise ,in this instance...........(just my interpretation on it)

I hunt the majority of the time in MOTION ALL METAL MODE .
Where the F75 excels on any other detector IS,that it will Hunt in all metal mode , but give you a Discrimination READOUT of the signal you have detected !!
I have after many variations in the settings found the All Metal Mode to search the deepest.
You can only use " monotone " in All Metal mode & cannot have 2 ,3, or 4 tones on, as a choice ,as you can in the "Discrim" mode.

I notice your very keen on the "Deep" word.
DEEP is not always the thing to go for.
Deep coins are always the hardest to find. you never get something for nothing !
By that i mean the shallow coins will surrender quite easily but the deep one are another kettle of fish.
They are the ones that experience in detecting , careful working, and knowing your detector will only fall to readily to,and even then they don`t give up that easily. The deeper the target the less information your going to receive on your screen and in your earphones.A Gold ring at 10 inches will sound nothing like a gold ring at two inches ESPECIALLY if it`s a THIN band.
By having the "best" or the Deepest seeking detector in the land ,will not guarantee you finding deep coins or artifacts even when some one gives you their settings that will give you a best shot at the deep ones ,its down to your interpretation of what you hear through your earphones whether you dig or don`t dig.
Experience of your detectors language it speaks to you, is your only way your going to get the "Deep" coins or artifacts.But having the F75 is giving you one of the best detectors in the land to help you get there .
My tip for what its worth,is use All metal Motion mode and search in open parkland or not too trashy sites to start with to get the "feel" of your F75.
Dig nothing under 20 on your digital readout of the Target value,and listen for the Positive each way signal that registers above 20.

Sorry if this sounds patronizing or "instructive" its not meant to be.I`m just trying to point out that having the best of anything ,won`t guarantee you finds.
Anyhow I wish you good hunting with your F75 .
I would just like to add that the info above is how i use the F75 and others may well use different settings and methods which suits their searching abilitys better. In no way am i stating my ways of detecting, or settings, are the "best".

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above said:
Every time you UP the discrimination by one setting ,you close a window on the strength of your " viewing ability" of the signal your detector was capable of receiving with all 65 windows open.

Are you sure this is true with this unit? I haven't notice it when cherry picking coins in higher discrim. The only issue for me, as everyone knows by now, is the mode changes when you discrim above a certain number. In essence you don't have the option of continuing to use DE mode above I think 20. You automatically get switched to JE even though the display still says DE. Is that correct?

Also, doesn't 3 and 4 tones set your discrim to 14 no matter what the display says? So that if you move to "0" you're essentially doing nothing...

I think my numbers are wrong, but the concept is right... someone will set me straight I'm sure :laugh:
 
Air testing at a lower sensitivity at home with different targets gives a feel of the different modes and discrimination settings.
Do the DE test with a nickle and start at zero discrim, no notch, tone 1. Advance the discrim a little at a time until you get to 19 or 20.

Depth all of a sudden is improved.

Now see what happens in the other discrimination modes. Listen to the sounds.

SJ
 
I`ve never yet had it proven to me that working with a discrim of 15 to 20 can match depths or signal clarity as in all metal mode.
I still work to "old school" basics and find that my results are never the less satisfactory.
If you don`t try detecting in all metal with the F75 and only hunt using a lot of Discrimination . Yes, you WILL pull the Cherry picking fodder up, but how do you know that if you did lower your discrimination to between 1 to 6 or even All metal ,you won`t start to achieve deeper targets?And actually i`m not prepared to hunt with high discrimination to take the chance of missing coins or artifacts.
How do you know that by using a discrim of 15 to 20 you havn`t missed some thin Gold rings at depth , or a Gold necklace ?Again its not a chance i personally am prepared to take.

I will say it again, the F75 is the only detector i know that will hunt in All metal , BUT when it hits a Target it will instead of reading the target as a "hit" and thats all you get told , you`ve hit a metal object, the F75 actually Tells you the Discriminated Value of that Target by digital numbers of what band of numbers the target is, hence if its ferrous its low or if its non ferrous its medium to high numbers. So ,in all metal mode with the F75 ,you hunt in Max depth ability all the time and have the added bonus of knowing whether the target is to be dug or not on detection, where old school detectors wouldn`t tell you that. It was a metal target hit and you had to dig everything in all metal.
 
I've been hunting a particular Civil War camp for years. Last Fall I hunted it at 0 discrimination and felt there was little left. I then went through it again with all metal and listened for deep, fairly faint mellow "bullet" sounding signals. I've dug over 8000 bullets and know what a deep bullet sounds like. I dug a lot of those targets and almost all were bullets. Anywhere from 8"-11" deep. Most were small pistol bullets. Usually, I got no rreading on the screen. Simple too deep to register. Those were my favorites. I almost KNEW they were a good signal. All Metal will absolutely get deeper signals than you can hear in discrimination. That's my experience in MY gound, which gives a bround balance reading between 50 and 60. BTW, my sensitivity for both discrimination and all metal was set at 90. The all metal hunting is at the time of year (Spring) where more moisture is in the gorund, but I usually couldn't get a hit in Discrimination, but got solid signals in all metal.

keep on diggin'

jimmyk in Missouri
 
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