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Explorer SE - First FBS machine coming
- Thread starter Kapok
- Start date
Charles (Upstate NY)
Well-known member
Kapok said:
Sunray Gold will be an improvement imo. I have used a couple different pairs of Gray Ghost, their tone is thin and ice pick like in comparison. Tones on an Explorer are closer to a musical instrument, the Sunray give a fuller, richer sound plus are a lot more comfortable to wear. But its not such a big deal that you have to run out right now and buy a pair. If you don't already have one an X1 probe should be your next purchase priority.
Back to your volume observation, probably won't be a lot of difference between the volume of a clad on the surface vs a coin at 6 inches. But beyond that deeper coins will start sounding lower/faitner in volume due to depth with your gain at 7, which is a great way to cut through all the shallow stuff and pick off just the deep targets, deep targets will sound fainter AND seem wider as you sweep across them. This is why the Findmall forum owner's suggestion of going out and just hunting nothing but deep targets was such a game changer for me. After a couple of hunts doing this I pretty much ignored all the shallow trash and clad and just listened for these deeper signals.
If you turn your gain up further to 9-10 you lose this as the Explorer gain further boosts the volume of deeper/fainter targets. With your gain at 10 all targets regardless of depth sound equally as loud, then you can't hear the forest for the trees, you lose the depth element of the tone. IF your soil is relatively mineral free and the machine is stable at higher sensitivity settings then a gain of 8 is ideal. But do not lower sensitivity in order to run your gain at 8 its counter productive, lowering sensitivity notches out those deep faint targets, gain can't boost what has been notched out by a lower sensitivity setting. I called Minelab years ago to confirm the order in which Sensitivity and Gain are applied and Sensitivity is applied first, then Gain boost to whatever is left after Sensitivity.
Tony N (Michigan)
Active member
aproc123 said:
Too bad someone can't make sound files so people can hear the dry heaving. LOL
Seriously though, someone needs to make some audio files like:
1. This is what a deep dime sounds like.
2 This is what a deep quarter sounds like.
3. This is what a dime or quarter or half sounds like mixed in with iron nails. etc. And post them here.
Explorer.se
Well-known member
tiftaaft said:Tony N (Michigan) said:
Challenge Accepted
Look forward to it!
Tony N (Michigan)
Active member
Then there are shallow OLD coins which defy the rule of deeper = older.
On a farm I was detecting, I got a shallow, VERY shallow copper hit. it was about an inch deep on top of some gravel under the grass on a hillside. I thought it must just be a wheatie. So I just slammed the digger in and ricked it. What was it?
It was an 1804 half penny. And there were other coins nearby. One larger than our large cent but so worn I don't know if it is a foreign pre-U.S. coin some colonist brought over. it is thicker than our large cent too.
Then on another farm, I got a real shallow copper hit. It was an Andrew Jackson token the size of a wheatback which he must have handed out when he was running for president. It was only about three inches down. He signed the deed to that very farm. On the same farm
I dug a half dime at a few inches deep but dug some nice large cent coins at around 8 inches. So on old farms, if it beeps, even if shallow, I dig.
On another farm near me all the coins were shallow. Every silver coin on the farm I live on has been shallow.
When I first started detecting, I bought the Explorer XS when they first came out. The first coin I found was a mercury coin about 3 inches down. It was on the farm here.
I've only found 1 barber dime, 2 mercs and one silver quarter here since I've been detecting this place where I live since when the Explorer XS first came out and none of them were deeper than 3 to 4 inches.
Then a couple weeks ago a friend and I were detecting a park and he dug out a clad quarter at 10" ! So ya just never know.
On a farm I was detecting, I got a shallow, VERY shallow copper hit. it was about an inch deep on top of some gravel under the grass on a hillside. I thought it must just be a wheatie. So I just slammed the digger in and ricked it. What was it?
It was an 1804 half penny. And there were other coins nearby. One larger than our large cent but so worn I don't know if it is a foreign pre-U.S. coin some colonist brought over. it is thicker than our large cent too.
Then on another farm, I got a real shallow copper hit. It was an Andrew Jackson token the size of a wheatback which he must have handed out when he was running for president. It was only about three inches down. He signed the deed to that very farm. On the same farm
I dug a half dime at a few inches deep but dug some nice large cent coins at around 8 inches. So on old farms, if it beeps, even if shallow, I dig.
On another farm near me all the coins were shallow. Every silver coin on the farm I live on has been shallow.
When I first started detecting, I bought the Explorer XS when they first came out. The first coin I found was a mercury coin about 3 inches down. It was on the farm here.
I've only found 1 barber dime, 2 mercs and one silver quarter here since I've been detecting this place where I live since when the Explorer XS first came out and none of them were deeper than 3 to 4 inches.
Then a couple weeks ago a friend and I were detecting a park and he dug out a clad quarter at 10" ! So ya just never know.
Charles (Upstate NY)
Well-known member
Ted S said:
Deep on not only boosts fainter deep targets, it makes them seem wider as you sweep them vs more shallow targets. Without it they are fainter and narrower, with Fast On even more narrow to the point you can really tell a shallow target from a deep one in terms of target width. Somewhere there is a graph of the target signal, then how much of the left and right edge of the target the settings lop off. Switch from normal tones to that long tone mode, you can pick up the target well off to the outside of the coil, that gives you an idea how wide the target really is. Normal narrows it, fast narrows it more, deep off narrows it even further. I don't want all targets to seem 1 inch wide, I want the deep ones to stand out as wider, if that makes sense.