ETRAC VERSES EXPLORER 2

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How much difference is there in the capabilities of the ETRAC verses EXPLORER 2. Depth etc.

 

[Nuke em]

Up until earlier this month i had both the ET and Explorer 11 and now i have just the Explorer 11 .
There is nothing wrong with the ET or E 11 , its just one had to go and i decided that i wanted the one that gave me the most for the least .

There is no difference in depth if both are correctly and equally set up right and have the same coil .
The only main differences are the extra settings on the ET and the extra screen size which gives more numbers , but that can make you lazy on the search when you think you have a bad target which in fact could be good. Too many use the numbers instead of the sounds and on land i have been doing that in the past , though on the beach the numbers game can be more accurate .

There is no difference i have found in depth between those machines and even the CTX is no deeper , its all in the settings . Though each machine may be able to find a specific coin or target slightly deeper you can get that with 2 of the same machines too , no two machines are the same or exactly.

If you have an Explorer 11 that is in very good condition and works well then keep it clean and maintained and it will give you as good a service as any other FBS machine .
If on the other hand you are bored then go for the newer model , there is little difference in capability just settings and age of machine.

 

[gitterdug]

I think the big difference that I appreciated when I made the switch, was the programmability on the computer. ET has a faster processor as well. But being able to program modes and patterns on your pc, specific to the type of hunting you are doing.....that is pure gold for my use. But I have loved both machines.....IF you can afford it, get yourself an E-Trac.

HH

 

[Nuke em]

I think the big difference that I appreciated when I made the switch, was the programmability on the computer. ET has a faster processor as well. But being able to program modes and patterns on your pc, specific to the type of hunting you are doing.....that is pure gold for my use. But I have loved both machines.....IF you can afford it, get yourself an E-Trac.

HH

True that you can put more programs on the ET as you can even more on the CTX too but its easy enough to just put them straight onto the ET itself , why the computer ? why the middle man ?

 

[ironsight]

I agree withy Nuke em.
I never owned an Explorer but i got to say that i've never downloaded a pattern into my eTRAC. They're easy enough to custom crank in manually.
Never used it so i don't even know if my eTRAC's USB port works!

IMO and only my opinion, the areas i hunt and with my detecting style, those published online patterns are not worth the hassle of hooking up my eTRAC to the internet.

Now if the eTRAC supported firmware updates via the USB port, yep i'm all for that!

 

[Nuke em]

I would go without the USB port entirely , why cant the ET types be more user friendly and be programmed easier ? especially the CTX !!
Why are the FBS type all Salt reject all the time ? why not have an option ?

I have used FBS since i started but they are not always that good all the time .


Anyway the other thing that would decide which machine you should have between the two is your budget .

 

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Thank you all for your input. I appreciate it very much.

 

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[Tom_in_CA]

As Nuke-em says, there's no difference in depth between them. The ET is just the next step up from the Exp. II, with only "whistles and bells" difference.

There's a lot of guys who preferred the Exp. II though, because there is a tonal difference that made silver sound better. Thus whereas the difference between a wheatie and a silver dime is very hard to tell on the ET, it's a little more tell-tale on the Exp. II. While most places you'd NEVER cherry-pick to that degree, yet .... it makes it a little more fun, IMHO

 

[Southwind]

Common sense:

Most people buy the E-Trac to find those deeper coins the others have missed not for the "fancy adjustments".

IF the ExII was as deep as the E-Trac we'd all be using the ExII. Doesn't that make sense?

Just look at the forums and see who is finding the deep silver.

 

[Nuke em]

Common sense:

Most people buy the E-Trac to find those deeper coins the others have missed not for the "fancy adjustments".

IF the ExII was as deep as the E-Trac we'd all be using the ExII. Doesn't that make sense?

Just look at the forums and see who is finding the deep silver.

Trust me there is no difference in depth , only settings and that isn't always important. People are finding more with ET these days due to most Explorer users switching over to the new kid on the block , and in many many years it might be true about the CTX too . Perhaps .

 

[Rick(ND)]

Depth wise it is close as I never found a deeper coin with the E-Trac than I have with any of the Explorers, but I have found with the E-Trac coins the Explorers have missed as it seems to be faster in recovery than the Explorers. I also have a better chance of hearing a coin with the E-Trac as I use the pitch hold on the E-Trac with makes it easier to hear those weaker signals with my bad hearing. I have also have seen in one area I was not able to work with the Explorer with the X-8 coil because of trash, but tried it with the E-Trac with the same coil and was able to pick up several coins and ran smoother too. The first time I used a E-Trac I thought it wasn't working as it ran much smoother for me than my Explorer SE Pro I had. I have seen others that had problems getting used to the Explorers and when they tried the E-Trac they loved it, so it may get the same depth as the Explorers, but seems to find more with the E-Trac.

Rick

 

[Tom_in_CA]

..... IF the ExII was as deep as the E-Trac we'd all be using the ExII. Doesn't that make sense?

Just look at the forums and see who is finding the deep silver.

The demographics of #'s of Etrac users vs Exp. II users, is not reflective of "which ones get more depth". It's simply because the Etrac came next in the lineage. And ... human nature being what it is: md'rs all figured they had to have the "latest greatest", hence "updated". Heck, maybe they like the whistles and bells. But as Nuke-em says: There is no difference in depth.

Same goes for the "looking at forums to see who's getting more deep silver". This is nothing more than reflective of the populations of machines out their in use. Heck, have you seen how much Exp. II's cost on the used market ?? Go see the prices of sold Etracs versus sold Exp II's on the open market (ebay, etc...), and you will see that Exp. II's are in hot demand. NOT because they had more depth , but because some old-time users preferred their subtle difference in sounds.

 

[Southwind]

Which came first the chicken or the egg? Did more users go to the E-Trac simply because it has more bells & whistles? You give far too little credit to your fellow hunters. Most have gone to the E-Trac because it brings home more.

Depth is relative to conditions so it is something realty hard to debate. My Deus will spank my E-Trac on depth in heavy iron conditions. Does they mean my Deus is deeper than the E-Trac? Yes, in that conditions it would be.

I'd be willing to bet there are far more EXII machines out there than E-Tracs, and I know a lot of ExII owners who leave them at home and use the E-Trac. I know some who sold their E-Trac and kept their ExII's. I sold my V3i and kept my DFX does that make the DFX a better machine? I was far more comfortable with the DFX so the advanced abilities of the V3i didn't beat out my WANT to put comfort over ability.

All I'm saying is I can almost always spot an E-Trac user just by the posts. Doesn't work that way for any other detectors I've seen or used. It just brings home the beacon more than any other, including the ExII, that I see postings from. <-- Now tell me that isn't fact?

 

[Nuke em]

The Explorer XS and 11 were made from 2000 till 2006 , the ET has been made and still is from 2008 till 2015 + . The SE did not sell as many i think after the ET came out so i think the ET has sold more .

I love the ET but i know by all the experience i have that the ET and Explorer's "all" are the same for depth or i would have kept the ET and sold the Explorer 11 .

The Explorer 11 is becoming a cult machine and is a favourite for many FBS users simply because it is simpler to use and the same in capability . If the ET is faster then the best way to get the same from the Explorer is to slow down your speed .
If your on your own on a site whats the hurry ?

 

[HaroldILL.]

The Etrac has a faster processer and doesn't null as much or as long as the previous Explorer model's. The Explorer's though have a little bit sweeter silver warble tone then the Etrac. And lastly to me anyway the Etrac feels lighter not just because of the grip being 15 degree's tilted back,But in general the detector itself.

 

[Prep1957]

You are all wrong the Safari is a better detector as far as FBS detectors are concerned it has the Explorer sweet sound of silver all the features that are really needed at a great price and it is as fast as any E-Trac.The Only reason Etrac has a bigger processor is to handle all the crap it has on it,1700 Pixels what do you all do shave with razor that has 4 blades on it, you all do know it is not a TV don,t you.Good thing Explorer or Etrac is not as bad as CTX or the Deus.Lets get this straight none of them use 28 freq.at one time.None of them are good in heavy iron or heavy trash.You have to go to another company to get a true trash detector.Depth is the same on all FBS detectors period.

 

[Nuke em]

You are all wrong the Safari is a better detector as far as FBS detectors are concerned it has the Explorer sweet sound of silver all the features that are really needed at a great price and it is as fast as any E-Trac.The Only reason Etrac has a bigger processor is to handle all the crap it has on it,1700 Pixels what do you all do shave with razor that has 4 blades on it, you all do know it is not a TV don,t you.Good thing Explorer or Etrac is not as bad as CTX or the Deus.Lets get this straight none of them use 28 freq.at one time.None of them are good in heavy iron or heavy trash.You have to go to another company to get a true trash detector.Depth is the same on all FBS detectors period.

The first part you are wrong , very ! . I have been up against a Safari and the ET knocks it for six . But yes you are right about iron and very trashy sites in many cases and right about the all FBS being about the same and the 28 freqs . The Deus is better and worse than the ET types.

Maybe a Go Find is the answer

 

[HaroldILL.]

The Etrac also has a ferrous number read out for more precise Iron disc. But for me the deal breaker is the Etrac can be changed to 4 Tones as that is my favorite amount of tones. I know I'm in the minority on the 4 Tone's,But I hate to many Tones in my ear. That is one reason I never bonded with the previous Explorer's. But having said that I have a Friend who has a Safari and kills with it!

 

[Nuke em]

The Explorer 11 does have Ferrous numbers and Conduct numbers . All it is that the Explorer screen is smaller so less pixels.
I prefer multi tones , gives more info on the target , a trade off because of the fewer numbers to choose from .
Only other tones i would use is 2 tone Ferrous.