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etrac not picking up gold

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greedykind

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I had my detector out in work and a co-worker pulled her ring off and asked me to see what it rang up at.Well i was amazed that it didnt even register! I have seen where a balled up gold chain was not registering either and i am not sure what it would do in the ground yet(cant get mama to let me bury her ring) but has anyone tested gold in the ground versus out of the ground and fast on/off or deep on/off make a difference?What experiences have you had with this?Thanks charlie
 
It doesnt matter whether its gold or not, my etrac doesnt see anything lying on top of the ground for some reason.If you lift the coil 10 cm above it does however pick it up.I have seen many people asking about the same but havent seen any good explanation for it. I had a x-terra earlier and it was the same story there.
 
my etrac was made in ireland i presume as i live in the uk it wont pick up gold ingot chain on the surface but will sound off at rings on the surface i also have a gold ring on a piece of string and if it goes down a hole it sounds off thank goodness i think we do need people with etracs who have found gold to tell us their settings especially if anyone has found a necklace
 
A cold hard reality on FBS. While FBS detectors are second to none on being able to see that extremely deep high conductive stuff like silver, the price is paid in a poor low conductive ability like gold.

I've done a lot of testing to try and get my E-Trac to see the smaller gold and nothing has worked. Even in pinpoint/all metal it is blind to some small gold. By blind I mean it doesn't null or anything. It sees nothing at all.
 
The BBS and the FBS machines do have a hard time on gold chains and hear others do too as it don't see it as one piece, but see each link which is so small it is hard to see. Many that do get them see the clasp or other item that is bigger.
On the ring it depends on if you were using any disc or not as it may have been disc out and why when trying to do something like this and cant pick it up I will go to quick mask and set the conductivity at 0 and ferrous at 35 which is so easy to do with the E-Trac and one of the reason I use quick mask mostly to hunt with so I can adjust as I need to on a iffy signal. Many small rings and even like my wedding band that is not so small will reads low on the conductivity. My ring reads as alum foil and many factory setting reject these numbers.
If you get a chance to try this again give it a try with the quick mask open up so it will see everything and see what the numbers it will read.
 
I've tried every setting I could to get the E-Trac to do better on gold, it just doesn't like it. It doesn't display any numbers because it just doesn't even see it. Here is a video I did testing gold on the E-Trac, AT Pro and DFX. It's not a pretty sight for the E-Trac, but I assure you what you see is what I got. Nothing being hidden here. I will say the E-Trac hits darn good on gold rings and other larger gold targets.

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5IzyhvtOd4[/video]
 
I have dug watch fobs at 7-8 inches and they were chains and a ring that was so light it did not register on the digital scale and I found that at 9 inches your machine is fine it is your settings
 
Southwind said:
I've tried every setting I could to get the E-Trac to do better on gold, it just doesn't like it. It doesn't display any numbers because it just doesn't even see it. Here is a video I did testing gold on the E-Trac, AT Pro and DFX. It's not a pretty sight for the E-Trac, but I assure you what you see is what I got. Nothing being hidden here. I will say the E-Trac hits darn good on gold rings and other larger gold targets.
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Thanks for that video.

I know you stated you tried everything with the Etrac, but I wonder if you tried this test at various Noise Cancel channel settings. I believe I read somewhere that some of the channels are better for low conductivity targets.
 
I saw video on youtube that etrac was not able to pick up big silver coin in the air at all if ground set not on difficult--setting was oposit difficult. change ground to difficult and open screen if you cant hear gold ring something wrong. my explorer can pick it easy, but ring is not micro, with chains different story. good luck Stasys
 
is there a way to change channel that you want etrac to use?If the etrac doesnt pick up gold then i need to stop digging 11-20 and 12-21,What are your experiences bryce if you happen to read?Thanks charlie
 
OK for all you skeptics/non believers I've done this before and I'll be happy to do it again. YOU tell me what to adjust and I'll do it and shoot the video again. I'm no idiot or newbie to the E-Trac. I know how to make it do best on gold I assure you, but just to make you happy, although you'll simply make up another reason why I did something wrong, I'll do it until you can face the facts. In case you missed it I used a quick mask WIDE OPEN discrimination setting. Both FE and CO were wide open. It saw nothing of the gold cross or earring.

Just for the record I did the same type of test with the Sovereign GT on a good sized earring and it saw nothing. The BBS/FSB just isn't that great on low conductive targets. Not a big deal as far as I'm concerned. I just use the right detector for the right job.

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PG1KwlG56k[/video]

The E-Trac is a deep high conductive target killer. Second to none, but not that great on small gold. I still own an E-Trac because it's the deepest coin detector I've ever used period, but I don't use it when hunting tot lots. End of story. FACT. There is no one detector best at all types of hunting.
 
I am by far not saying that you dont know what you are doing southwind if you directed that last response to me,i learn from asking questions and am by far no expert at the etrac.If you feel i misworded anything in my post i apologize to you.What would you consider the best detector next to the etrac that picks up gold well?Thanks charlie
 
Not at all greedykind. I get the same response whenever I post that video. There seems to always be those who think I have my E-Trac mis-configured and may have done it on purpose. LOL. Believe me, if the E-Trac was all I needed thats all I'd own.

Right now the very best detector I've tried for gold is the Garrett AT Pro. It is my tot lot machine. Not as deep as the E-Trac on coins, in my opinion, but a gold killer.
 
Southwind

Thanks for the great info on the E-Trac.
Because I'm a small gold hunter I think I will stick with my X-70 for now.
I also have a X-705 coming which I got a good, fair used price.
How does your Garrett AT Pro. compare with the X-70 on small gold?
Do you have a X-705 also?
I'm afraid of getting the AT pro at this time.
I think I'll wait until they get all the bugs out.

Good Hunting

Denny
 
detectorfreak74 said:
I have dug watch fobs at 7-8 inches and they were chains and a ring that was so light it did not register on the digital scale and I found that at 9 inches your machine is fine it is your settings
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can you please tell me what are good settings for gold please i am not looking for small stuff i want to know that the etrac will pick a gold ring or gold coin up without worrying i might miss it thanks
 
Well, I'll just say this,I made up my own jewelry program with 15 different gold rings,chains and earrings from 10k to 24k, all my wifes stuff, and small except for my wedding band.My Etrac seen it all and at a very good distance.:shrug:
 
( deep off, fast on , variability 28 , gain 20 limits 30 and I hunt in quick mask at 26,27 in conductive , if very trashy open screen quick mask ferrous that is what I hunt in
 
My machine doesn't seemto have a problem and it loves things on the surface
 
It has more to do with the operating frequency of the detectors than anything. Although Minelab transmits many frequencies, as all detectors do, (primary frequencies and harmonics) it is believed the two frequencies that is processed, is in the range of 1.5 and 2.5 kHz, which is very sensitive to the higher conductors. Detectors operating in the higher frequencies of 15 kHz like the AT Pro, MXT and DFX are far more sensitive to lower conductors like gold nuggets and chains. For many years I too used two detectors, Minelab for the deep silver and the DFX for jewelry, but now I use just one detector that is designed to do both types of hunting well.
 
I would agree Larry. The DFX and the AT Pro does see all my gold just fine.

I have dug plenty of gold rings, chains, pendents and earrings with the E-Trac, but I have also found quite a few the E-Trac doesn't see and that is my point. All the gold chains found with the E-Trac were either large linked or had a good sized clasp.
 
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