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Don't mean to be a negitive kinda guy but this financial mess is real scary...
- Thread starter Jim C (Mich)
- Start date
I'm seeing a lot of panic and "the end is nigh" nonsense on the internet. Cmon folks, we need to contact legislators and ask what the h ell is going on. We need to speak up and be heard, not just act like a lot of sheep and go around saying there's nothing we can do. These people on Wall Street need to be held accountable. This is the result of the calculated moves by the outgoing administration to deregulate everything. With the rules removed the rats will play. I see where some of you guys are talking about survivalist mentality. I assure you, if it ever gets to that point its too late for most of us. How many people truly know how to survive in a post apocolyptic world? How many really want to live in a world like that? The time to act is now and reverse this nonsense. Vote smart this November. Ask yourself, do we need a change or do we want more of the same? And, I can assure you McCain is not going to be a change. The same people that put Bush in office are working to put McCain there.
Hmmm, We just passed a 700 Billion plus Bail out. The Current budget was already 400 Billion over income. Obama has 800 Billion to 1 Trillion in new spending. It's not hard to add up that Obama could easily be OVER budget by a minimum of 2 Trillion, IN ONE YEAR. And if the bail out ends up being 2 Trillion, then Obama could be 3 Trillion over budget in one year. He could set a record!!!
The problem is not regulation or de-regulation, it is Crooked Politicians! You can have all the regulation in the world, but if no one is enforcing it, what's the difference?
The problem is not regulation or de-regulation, it is Crooked Politicians! You can have all the regulation in the world, but if no one is enforcing it, what's the difference?
Uncle Willy
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What the voters need to do is clean house in Congress and vote all incumbents out and put new blood in there with the message that if they don't cut the mustard they will be unemployed next election. Doesn't matter who is President. Congress runs the country, passes all the laws, rules, and regulations, sets the tax rates and the whole nine yards. These guys running for President promise you the moon knowing full well that they don't have the power or authority to fulfill any of those promises but the public falls for their line of BS every time then wonders why everything goes to hell after they are elected. Sweep the halls of Congress clean if you want a new U.S.A.
When Lehman Brothers went bankrupt and the employees and investors lost everything the CEO walked away with $483 million. Congress allowed this to happen as they have allowed all this other crap to happen because they are all on the payroll of these people. The public was 100% dead set against this rape and pillage $850 billion bailout but Congress totally ignored the people and done just what they damned well pleased. These people have formed their own group dictatorship and if they aren't voted out soon there won't be enough left of this country to spit on.
This maggot Hank Paulson has now hired his buddies and former employer on Wall Street ( the same bunch of crooks who originated this mess ) to handle this $700 billion and dispose of it and you can bet they will dispose of it. The other day they just had to have this money immediately or the world was going to come to an end ( typical fear mongering ) but now that they have it the urgency has completely disappeared and they claim it will take some time to inplement this rape job. The public has been had big time once again and Congress shoved it to them in the worst way and this isn't the end of the free handouts. The snakes are coming out of the woodwork and lining up for their piece of the pie. California and Florida are bankrupt and CAlifornia has already asked Hank Paulson for $7 billion to bail them out and more states are getting in line. This $850 billion on top of the billions already handed out is just the tip of the iceberg. This will be the greatest theft of public funds in the history of the world.
There were no facts, statistics, figures, or reason to base the $700 billion on, they just decided that it sounderd like a really big number and picked it out of the blue. They just as easily could have picked a figure twice that high. These are the monumental intellects running your country and pizzing all your money away Bush didn't even know there was a crisis until Paulson informed him..IF you want your country back forget about these two worthless goons running for President and get to work next election and vote every member of Congress out and replace them with anybody - even if it's the local dog catcher.
Bill.
When Lehman Brothers went bankrupt and the employees and investors lost everything the CEO walked away with $483 million. Congress allowed this to happen as they have allowed all this other crap to happen because they are all on the payroll of these people. The public was 100% dead set against this rape and pillage $850 billion bailout but Congress totally ignored the people and done just what they damned well pleased. These people have formed their own group dictatorship and if they aren't voted out soon there won't be enough left of this country to spit on.
This maggot Hank Paulson has now hired his buddies and former employer on Wall Street ( the same bunch of crooks who originated this mess ) to handle this $700 billion and dispose of it and you can bet they will dispose of it. The other day they just had to have this money immediately or the world was going to come to an end ( typical fear mongering ) but now that they have it the urgency has completely disappeared and they claim it will take some time to inplement this rape job. The public has been had big time once again and Congress shoved it to them in the worst way and this isn't the end of the free handouts. The snakes are coming out of the woodwork and lining up for their piece of the pie. California and Florida are bankrupt and CAlifornia has already asked Hank Paulson for $7 billion to bail them out and more states are getting in line. This $850 billion on top of the billions already handed out is just the tip of the iceberg. This will be the greatest theft of public funds in the history of the world.
There were no facts, statistics, figures, or reason to base the $700 billion on, they just decided that it sounderd like a really big number and picked it out of the blue. They just as easily could have picked a figure twice that high. These are the monumental intellects running your country and pizzing all your money away Bush didn't even know there was a crisis until Paulson informed him..IF you want your country back forget about these two worthless goons running for President and get to work next election and vote every member of Congress out and replace them with anybody - even if it's the local dog catcher.
Bill.
Uncle Willy
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Obama and McCain both want to open the flood gates and let every Mexican in Mexico into this country and load them down with freebies.
Bill
Bill
Uncle Willy
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In the latest poll 62% of Americans think we are headed into a depression and since 72% of our GDP is based entirely on what Joe Sixpack and family spend at the mall each week ( not what this country produces ), when the consumer zips up their pocketbook and stops spending then it will all be over but the crying and they already are retreating into their shells
Bill.
Bill.
Uncle Willy
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Because the same crooks are the jailers. 
I watched the CEO of Lehman Brothers ( who broke that company, the employees, the investors, and walked away with $483 million in compensation ) testify before Congress and they practically treated him like Royalty instead of nailing his butt to the wall. This is how it works among the wealthy elite. Last year the corporate lobbyists doled out $2 billion to members of Congress. Congress doesn't work for the citizen and hasn't for decades. They are on the payroll of the elite rich, special interest groups, and corporations and wouldn't pee on the voters if they were on fire. We have the most corrupt government in the world and no one seems to recognize it..
Bill
I watched the CEO of Lehman Brothers ( who broke that company, the employees, the investors, and walked away with $483 million in compensation ) testify before Congress and they practically treated him like Royalty instead of nailing his butt to the wall. This is how it works among the wealthy elite. Last year the corporate lobbyists doled out $2 billion to members of Congress. Congress doesn't work for the citizen and hasn't for decades. They are on the payroll of the elite rich, special interest groups, and corporations and wouldn't pee on the voters if they were on fire. We have the most corrupt government in the world and no one seems to recognize it..Bill
Uncle Willy
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Hey my dear bud I ate a lot of lumpy oatmeal during the Depression and it didn't kill me. 
Bill
Bill
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Lawrence in Alabama
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even worse. Have you heard about his plan for relieving world poverty...guess who he plans on getting to pay for that!! You guessed it US!!! A favorite mantra of the Democrats is "the rich aren't paying their fair share of taxes". Well guess what the top 2% earners in America pay 50% of the taxes now!!! The Democrats want to punish people for working hard and being successful!! I think it was Churchill (but I am not sure it was) said that no society ever taxed itself into prosperity! Oh and by the way, when Bill Clinton was in office he talked about the same thing, taxing the rich. Of course, when they first started talking about adding taxes to the rich the rich were anyone making over $250,000.00 per year. However, during a nighttime meeting that magically dropped to anyone making over $42,000.00!!! The problem is we have too many people on the government payout who could work but don't work because the government takes care of them. Our economy was really booming until the Democrats regained control of Congress 2 years ago. I gotta quit writing because I am getting angrier by the minute when I think about this!! The liberal media has been a huge factor in our economic panic because a lot of the trading on Wall Street has to do buyer confidence. The media has systematically done everything they can to ruin that confidence. Ok, I am really quitting now!!!
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Uncle Willy
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Including loans to about five million illegals - a little secret kept from the public. Now all those illegals have been foreclosed on. We had a family of them in our neighborhood that bought a new house. The guy didn't work at all and his wife worked at McDonalds. They had a new car which was repossessed, then two days later they had another new one which was eventually repossessed. They then wound up with an older car and were finally foreclosed on and booted out.
Bill
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Uncle Willy
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Contacting these maggots is an exercise in futility as they just ignore the voters. When they were passing this $700 billion rip off they were getting thousands of phone calls and emails running 100 to 1 against the bailout but they just ignored their constituents and done what they damn wel pleased - and what they were being paid under the table to do. It's already a lot worse than you think and will get much worse. Stock markets all over the world are crashing. Our Stock Market has dropped nearly 6000 points since last year and dropped almost 700 points today. Retirees invested in the market have already lost over a trillion dollars of their retirement. I know one guy who has lost over $200,000 of his. Does the word DEPRESSION ring a bell?
Banks are now giving car owners an extra month or so before repossessing their cars and then trying to work out a deal of lower payments as they don't want all these cars. Over the next two years 6.5 million more people will lose their homes. Unemployment is predicted to be over 8% by the first of next year. 1497 banks right now are at risk and 300 will go under in the next year or two. Several states are running low on unemployment compensation funds andwill soon run out. It ain't going to be purty.
Bill
Banks are now giving car owners an extra month or so before repossessing their cars and then trying to work out a deal of lower payments as they don't want all these cars. Over the next two years 6.5 million more people will lose their homes. Unemployment is predicted to be over 8% by the first of next year. 1497 banks right now are at risk and 300 will go under in the next year or two. Several states are running low on unemployment compensation funds andwill soon run out. It ain't going to be purty.
Bill