No, I guess you don't. Anyone can "talk shop" and not use the same tool as everyone else in the shop. And I am not alone because there are a lot of folks wandering around the shop who are not using a Deus II, like you, and many who might not have an original Deus, either.
You are correct in that "people don't know what they don't know" and that applies to anyone who hasn't put in the amount of time with the 'tools' I currently have, or have wandered around the 'shop' where I typically detected for decades. I know what siste challenges I face, and I know which detectors (plural) have proven their abilities in those tough sites. One of those is the Deus, but it doesn't stand alone or supreme. I have good friends who have been using the Deus since it came out, and they are very successful in a loot of very tough, ferrous-challenged sites, but they are not using your relic program. They are using what they found to work for them where they like to hunt. Therefore, they have a similar 'tool' but use it differently and it works different from your relic program ... but it works for them and that's what is important. I use different tools so I am just as 'different' as they are with their Deus units using their chosen settings.
That's correct, I didn't badmouth or downplay ZP, I stated no doubt they have a decent new design. But it is also true that it isn't going to be a good 'fit' for everyone and some folks will not need everything it has to offer.
And that, Calabash, is YOUR opinion, and it sounds all encompassing for any-and-all applications. You ought to state YOUR opinions of how a particular product satisfies YOU and not tell everyone else out there in detector land what is or isn't 'superior' which is basically telling everyone else that whatever they are using, it isn't the best. It's inferior. It's not a good 'tool'.
The start of this 'Forum' is and anyone can post on any Forum. I am here because I own and use an XP ORX which I enjoy, and it does provide me with some very good performance for certain applications.
No, I have stated I have only minutes with a Deus that drove me nuts due to the 'Full Tones' audio. Partly because i don't like most full-range audio units, and partly due to my hearing impairment. But I do like a 3-Tone audio and the ORX appealed to me. As for the Deus II, I only mentioned that I cancelled my order. Many have because they don't like the wait or can't afford it or ??? I cancelled my Deus II order because I don't need one right away, and that's because until I finish rehabilitation and get back to being able to get around with my cane (which I have for 29 years as of this March), my allowable hunt-time is not going to work using a walker. I have stated, in some posts, that I'll likely get a Deus II later this year, if I like what I see after handing one, and I have a few friends who will have one I can borrow to check out.
Why, that's what you are doing here, telling folks how good the Deus II is because you own and use it. I'm not bashing with that statement because it is true, but you should just clarify that it is very good for you and where you hunt and what you want. Please don't make it sound like me and anyone else using something different are not using a 'superior' detector. And I do go to those Forums, and have several of them on my website, and I try to contribute what i can in a discussion. I try to be helpful and not tell them what they need to use. That's their choice.
There you go again. Not expressing it as your opinion for your wants and needs, but telling me, and others, that the Deus II is "the most superior detector ever made" and that, depending upon what an individual wants or needs, might not be correct. Also, I simply cancelled my Deus II order, now, for MY reasons, and that should call you out to bash me for making my decisions. It's not out here, yet, and when it is I will check one out. I have stated before that I like several things about the Deus II and will likely get one, down the road, then i can get out and use it.
The Garrett Apex is an Apex, not an Ace. And I invite you to come experience a Welcome-to-Hunt Outing in one of several ghost towns 'out west' that we hunt where you will truly be confronted with some very challenging ferrous debris. Dense Iron nails, other ferrous discards and tin. From full cans to horrendous amounts of shards of rusty tin. There are areas where the Apex w/small coil works well, and out-performs the EQ-800 and many other detectors in some of the worst Iron Nail environments. 'Depth', by the way, is not one of the necessary functions for a good detector in the nasty trash conditions. Besides, most desirable targets are not deep, anyway.
Again, you've simply made your bold and biased statement, and I am certain many readers won't post even though they know that to be incorrect. You can say the 11" DD on a Deus II can separate pretty well, but I don't think it is wise to tell anyone / everyone that is will separate better than the detectors and coils they use. Just like the folks who want to see the Deus II perform in actual in-the-field conditions for Park Hunting and such, the Deus II w/11' DD can prove its abilities when used size-by-size in a test against another device. Besides, I know my detector choices well and have put in a lot more than 65 hours on them ... and i don't hesitate to point out their weaknesses, either. No perfect detector exists.
Read what is written.. I have watched a LOT of videos, most of a month+ in the hospital and 3+ weeks back at home. Not only your videos but many others. And I didn't say a few, but I have watched a LOT of videos, from many places, using a lot of detectors, and I said many were performing about the same. Seeing is believing, and I watched and compared a lot of results from natural, in-the-field encounters.
There are "whiners and naysayers" on all forums. Have you been over to Friendly lately? I do get to several Forums other than mine, and until they get an XP ORX Forum, those of us who use an XP product will just have to post under this one. The ORX happens to be a very good detector, and I'll keep it around until I make the move to get a Deus II.
There you go again. Putting down any other make or model that might appeal to others. I have friends who use an original Deus, and most kind of like what it offers. But several of them also have an Equinox 800 or a Nokta / Makro device in their outfit that they favor over the Deus for certain tasks. Nothing is 'perfect' and therefore you are not using the 'BEST' detector made. It's just a very good detector that you happen to like for your own wants and needs for the hunting you do and the sites you select.
Monte
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Interested in a Deus I or any detector once I get it in MY hands at MY choice of sites with a coil I like.
