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Deepest target ever dug

I believe there are many
Many variables
At play here, that's why I
Asked the question.

Halo effect, coin position, soil
Mineralization, soil moisture, battery charge,
Operator error, Swing speed, coil
Sensitivity, height of
Low tide, moon phase, Quarks, neutrinos, coriolis effect
Blood Alcohol level, hearing sensitivity range,.... blah blah blah
I think It's cool to Hear what's being said, even when
You May be a tad bit skeptical... I tend to take a man at his
Word. I have seen
Some amazing things, that I'd
Never believe if I hadn't been standing there when it went down...
I think we've all been there for a WTF moment...

Just a bunch of cats hanging out talking shop....
no Worries...
 
ironsight said:
This tread should of instead been titled: 'Deepest Coin Ever Dug?

I hear you. I thought the deeper finds would be larger than coins And would therefore
Give a bigger target signal that could be detected and dug at greater depths.
Kinda surprised that so few relics have been mentioned. You could always start a thread
With that question, then please, by all means, knock yourself out!!!!...sounds like a great topic! Start a thread.
I didn't because I wasn't specifically interested in coins...
just deep fnds in general.

There's Another cat on another thread with a similar critique of my
Topic.... heads Up folks!!! Consider yourselves forewarned! I will disappoint the
Hell out of you, so Don't expect too much!
 
dug a post hole once its was pretty deep :buds:

i once caught a fish that was 1 foot and that was between the eyes :wave:

as for detecting i dig what i can hear that's all any of us can do.

AJ
 
10 1/2" Seated dime at a Kansas park. Had high tone but no VDI. Will always remember that one because it was my first seated
 
I know some people want to claim that their machine is somehow the deepest or best, I’m not that person. What I will show you is how you how to set your Tejon up to hit 15” quarters and 12” dimes. This demonstration is done with in ground clad coins from my test garden. The 4 and 6 inch coins have been in the ground for 3 1/2 years, the 10 and 12 inch coins have been in the ground less than a month. The soil is a moist, but not muddy, clay loam soil with low mineralization, typical Northern Ohio lawn soil. The machine as tested is a Tesoro Tejon with a Tesoro 12x10 wide scan coil with the scuff cover installed. This machine was bought new 4 years ago, has never been sent back to the factory, and I don’t consider it to be one of the especially hot units.

The first test will be with the following settings: Battery life greater than 3 beeps, sensitivity 10, threshold low hum, ground balance neutral, disc 1 set at foil, disc 2 (trigger forward) set above tab to act as a coin check. The first targets are 3 nickels 4 inches flat, 4 inches on edge, and 6 inches flat, coins are 2 feet apart. Solid hit for all 3 coins, you will find these coins every time on a blind search, trigger forward to disc 2 machine is silent (normal response). Next 3 quarters at the same positions and depths. Again solid response for all 3 coins, trigger forward and still a solid response. Next 3 dimes, solid response on the 4 inch flat and 4 inch on edge, noticeably weaker response on the 6 inch flat dime. You would probably not miss this coin, in fact, it is the sound most of us are especially looking for, but it is near the max depth that you would find this coin outside of a test garden. I don’t have any coins buried at 8 inches, so on to a 10 inch quarter. Very slight response to the 10 inch quarter, I would probably miss this coin in an open field. 12 inch quarter a few peeps, this coin would not be found in this search mode. 10 and 12 inch dimes are silent.

Let’s super tune the machine by increasing the sensitivity to max, the machine is now chattering, reduce sensitivity just until it stops chattering. On my machine that puts the sensitivity knob deep into the red line. Check the 10 and 12 inch targets again, there is a slight improvement in response but none of these coins realistically would be found in an open field. Leaving the sensitivity up, now increase the threshold to max. No change in the response. Next return the threshold to a low hum and turn the ground balance ¼ turn negative, no improvement in response. Ground balance ½ turn negative produces a different sound but offers no real increase in response. Leaving the ground balance ½ turn negative and increasing threshold to max offers no improvement. I also saw no real increase in depth using Monte’s power balance instructions.

Now we are going to try these settings: Sensitivity 10, threshold low hum, ground balance neutral, disc 2 (trigger forward) set all the way counter clockwise to all metal. This is still a motion discrimination mode, the machine will pick up iron, but it will tell me that it is iron. Disc 1 set counter clockwise past the click to slow retune threshold based all metal. Trigger back into pinpoint mode to quickly quiet the machine. Now reduce the threshold just to the point the machine becomes silent but no further. This goes against the book, but you will enjoy hunting this way. Now as you sweep the coil over empty ground you will hear the threshold tone appear and disappear, gently bump the ground balance knob positive or negative to keep the machine silent as you are searching, you no longer have to stop and balance the machine, you can now do it on the fly.

Now try the 10 inch quarter, a good solid response, I would find this coin every time in an open field. Trigger forward, you know the target is there and you now know where it is, use disc 2 to identify it. It has been my experience that Tesoro loses some of its ability to discriminate below 10 inches, pull tabs may sound like coins at this depth, but the machine still is able to deliver a different sound on iron, although, your experience may be different than mine. 12 inch quarter solid response, trigger forward and ID the target. 10 inch dime solid response, trigger forward, only a slight few pips, no useable discriminate info. This target is beyond the range of the discriminator. 12 inch dime solid response, trigger forward, no response and is beyond the range of the discriminator. If I passed the coil over any of these coins in an open field they would be coming home with me. The huge difference in response between threshold based all metal and trigger forward discriminate mode is a good indicator of target depth. At any time you can quickly retune the machine to quiet the threshold by pulling back on the trigger momentarily.

The Tejon still has one more trick up its sleeve. With the machine set to all metal as described above, set the tone control to VCO. The 10 inch quarter produces a response of greater than half the scale. The 12 inch quarter just under half the scale, lift the coil you can still get a solid response for this coin with the coil 3 inches off the ground, that’s a true 15 inch depth on a quarter. 10 inch dime about one third of the scale, 12 inch dime still comes in with a solid sound at about one fourth of the VCO scale.

That’s how you hit a 15 inch quarter and a 12 inch dime. Those numbers are conservative, when I buried these coins the 12 inches was measured with a tape measure from the coin to the top of the ground. Add the height of the grass and the coins are actually about an inch deeper than claimed.
 
amberjack said:
dug a post hole once its was pretty deep :buds:

i once caught a fish that was 1 foot and that was between the eyes :wave:

as for detecting i dig what i can hear that's all any of us can do.

AJ
I caught a bream in a private pond that was at LEAST 15 foot- from the shore.:blowup:
 
Oldguy said:
I know some people want to claim that their machine is somehow the deepest or best, I’m not that person. What I will show you is how you how to set your Tejon up to hit 15” quarters and 12” dimes.

glad you put in that disclaimer or I might have thought otherwise...........
 
slingshot said:
amberjack said:
dug a post hole once its was pretty deep :buds:

i once caught a fish that was 1 foot and that was between the eyes :wave:

as for detecting i dig what i can hear that's all any of us can do.

AJ
I caught a bream in a private pond that was at LEAST 15 foot- from the shore.:blowup:

I did the math yours just beat mine by a foot :nopity: :sadwalk:

AJ
 
Back in the 80's.. I was using a Bounty Hunter. "Mini Red Baron" with only a SIX inch coil! And dug up a 1906 "s" barber dime in excellent shape...measured with a ruler at ten inches deep....couldn't believe it
Keep in mind this was the eighties....but tht MRB was a HOT mach. For its time..
:yikes: would love to still have one of those machines....
 
Dug this 1917 Wheat today just a couple hours ago using an Etrac with a 8" Sunray Coil. Just a shade over 8" inches. I buried a Sampson Shovel and removed the plug to find I needed a second bite to get it out.



 
My F75 will easily hit a coin at I'd say elbow depth........but I dont usually dig that deep. I have located utilities for home owners and confirmed many a target for a hunting buddy whether to dig or not.
 
jd88047 said:
My F75 will easily hit a coin at I'd say elbow depth........but I dont usually dig that deep. I have located utilities for home owners and confirmed many a target for a hunting buddy whether to dig or not.

Sorry but just a little hard to believe. Yeah my Etrac finds buried Lines big meatal and such pretty deep. But a good accurate ID on a smaller Coin is a lot different. 10" on Quarters pretty easy. Maybe 12 on 50cent piece. I think about 8" on a Penny or dime is about normal especially with a smaller 8" coil. I have a X12 that I really need to experiment with but my ground rarely allows anything much deeper than 10" except big metal.
 
wet salt sand PI detector large coins right at the edge of detectors reach to much hard work left them and went home, only time I can remember leaving the fish biting !

AJ
 
daddyflea said:
jd88047 said:
My F75 will easily hit a coin at I'd say elbow depth........but I dont usually dig that deep. I have located utilities for home owners and confirmed many a target for a hunting buddy whether to dig or not.

Sorry but just a little hard to believe. Yeah my Etrac finds buried Lines big meatal and such pretty deep. But a good accurate ID on a smaller Coin is a lot different. 10" on Quarters pretty easy. Maybe 12 on 50cent piece. I think about 8" on a Penny or dime is about normal especially with a smaller 8" coil. I have a X12 that I really need to experiment with but my ground rarely allows anything much deeper than 10" except big metal.

While the etrac will hit coin in the 14 inch range, so will the F75. After a good rain, I will hit 10 inch targets all day long and I havent even cranked the F75 up. I believe the science behind the detector is maxed out at around 20 inch range. Now this is why I dont like to give depth. Air test will show 2 foot on a dime. But dug target, pulled a zinc at elbow depth. Could the target been in the side of the hole? Did the target keep falling as I dug? I dont know but will say depth is over rated. Also note my old bounty hunter found a metal culvert one day. I have not done a good test of my new etrac. I did not buy it to go deep. I bought it to help me see old coins in the dirt. The relic guys knows what all metal mode will do on a F75. I also have a boost process and a cache mode. I have dug soda cans at 2 feet several times. It is very hard to show depth on a video, and honestly vids can be manipulated. How do you suggest I show you the depth of the F75?
 
jd88047 said:
daddyflea said:
jd88047 said:
My F75 will easily hit a coin at I'd say elbow depth........but I dont usually dig that deep. I have located utilities for home owners and confirmed many a target for a hunting buddy whether to dig or not.

Sorry but just a little hard to believe. Yeah my Etrac finds buried Lines big meatal and such pretty deep. But a good accurate ID on a smaller Coin is a lot different. 10" on Quarters pretty easy. Maybe 12 on 50cent piece. I think about 8" on a Penny or dime is about normal especially with a smaller 8" coil. I have a X12 that I really need to experiment with but my ground rarely allows anything much deeper than 10" except big metal.

While the etrac will hit coin in the 14 inch range, so will the F75. After a good rain, I will hit 10 inch targets all day long and I havent even cranked the F75 up. I believe the science behind the detector is maxed out at around 20 inch range. Now this is why I dont like to give depth. Air test will show 2 foot on a dime. But dug target, pulled a zinc at elbow depth. Could the target been in the side of the hole? Did the target keep falling as I dug? I dont know but will say depth is over rated. Also note my old bounty hunter found a metal culvert one day. I have not done a good test of my new etrac. I did not buy it to go deep. I bought it to help me see old coins in the dirt. The relic guys knows what all metal mode will do on a F75. I also have a boost process and a cache mode. I have dug soda cans at 2 feet several times. It is very hard to show depth on a video, and honestly vids can be manipulated. How do you suggest I show you the depth of the F75?

I have used almost every brand of Detector made except a Fisher. They are all not very far apart except two. The V3i and the Minelab Etrac. I think sheer depth goes to a V3i but good usable ID goes to Etrac. My Etrac gets deep cans all the time at close to 2 feet and reports them as coins but this is normal. Try to ID a 8" nickle or maybe a 9" on edge Wheat from a Pull Tab then get back to me.
 
SOMEONE please tell the relic sites that I hunt that depth is over rated I heard that twice in the last week from fellow detectorist .Please tell us why depth is over rated feature on a machine?
 
cause where I need the depth its an iron pit and using a bigger coil I still cant hear the deep coins (iron mask) that are there that a small coil wont hit, solution dig out the iron I guess, there's always a trade off in detecting .......

AJ
 
thats why I like different machines with different coils for different circumstances.
 
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