Just bought a like new 3d. Problem...... In salt or enhanced mode it will detect s/caps and zincs even at disc. 6 level. it also id's them as high coin. This is not my first cz3d and the other ided them right or eliminated them depending on dics. level. Input or solution please. Thanks, Ron B.
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CZ3D help
- Thread starter ronburton
- Start date
Jackpine Savage
Active member
either from the factory or someone messed with it.
Everett Cavanah
New member
Savage is right. It needs an alignment are it has a circuit problem.
Buffalo Hunter
New member
Yeah mine will ID zincs in the coin range in the enhansed mode. In the salt, it will read zinc...
WVAdirtdigger
New member
Ron,
I get many screwcaps IDing as Hi-coin. Full Zinc pennies will ID as hi-coin in enhanced mode. If you get a slightly disintegrated zincer it will ID as zinc. The 3D throws a lot of items into a higher class to get you to dig. If you're in a newer park, throw it into salt mode and detect. If you're around an old house, use enhanced.
Dave
I get many screwcaps IDing as Hi-coin. Full Zinc pennies will ID as hi-coin in enhanced mode. If you get a slightly disintegrated zincer it will ID as zinc. The 3D throws a lot of items into a higher class to get you to dig. If you're in a newer park, throw it into salt mode and detect. If you're around an old house, use enhanced.
Dave
If you are in an extremely old area just used advanced...shouldn't find any new zincs in this type of area.
If in a newer area just switch to regular(salt) mode and the Zincs will read as Zinc.
Problem is many areas that were used 100 years ago are still being used such as old parks and then its up to use whatever mode you are comfortable with.
I understand the concept of a CZ3D and many do well with them in advanced mode in old areas, but you have to switch to normal(salt)mode in newer areas lest you spend the day digging junk.
A CZ3D is not for everyone but those that hunt extremely old areas in advanced and new areas in normal(salt) do well with them...
If in a newer area just switch to regular(salt) mode and the Zincs will read as Zinc.
Problem is many areas that were used 100 years ago are still being used such as old parks and then its up to use whatever mode you are comfortable with.
I understand the concept of a CZ3D and many do well with them in advanced mode in old areas, but you have to switch to normal(salt)mode in newer areas lest you spend the day digging junk.
A CZ3D is not for everyone but those that hunt extremely old areas in advanced and new areas in normal(salt) do well with them...
Dan, you are 100% correct. The cz3d is almost like having two detectors. Yes, in the salt mode some Memorial cents between 1959 and 1982 will read as silver, like a Wheatie, do to their copper/zinc content. From 1982 to present, they became copper plated zinc and on my cz, read as zinc unless right on top of the ground.
HH
jim tn
HH
jim tn
jackintexas
New member
Yes, Dan is correct. In many real old areas some coins tend to read lower in conductivity than they normally would. Many coins are missed by detector users because of this. What Fisher did was to lower the range of discrimination to be able to pick up these coins that normally read in the junk range. In a newer area with the modern trash in enhanced mode the detector tends to pick up some of the junk targets that other detectors or CZ's in the salt mode would idenify as junk. In order to get these older coins even in trashier areas you must dig some junk to get the older coins.
as dan has pointed out,you must use the detector in salt mode in a so newer area!"..welll what has me perplexed is that just about "every" area here in new england IS old!,however ALL of them are
STILL in use today!..that being said,how is it possible to use the cz 3d as it was intended.(advanced mode!)in these areas?..it would seem to me that you may as well get a cz 5,and just hunt in normal mode!.to be honest,the only areas that it CAN be used is probably at old church grounds,and very old picnic areas lost in the woods!..thease areas will generally NOT have much modern trash,and you
will be able to hunt with it as designed!..in (advanced mode!)
(h.h!)
jt.
STILL in use today!..that being said,how is it possible to use the cz 3d as it was intended.(advanced mode!)in these areas?..it would seem to me that you may as well get a cz 5,and just hunt in normal mode!.to be honest,the only areas that it CAN be used is probably at old church grounds,and very old picnic areas lost in the woods!..thease areas will generally NOT have much modern trash,and you
will be able to hunt with it as designed!..in (advanced mode!)
(h.h!)
jt.
a lot of the real old sites in the New England area are still in use, so they get covered in modern alum. trash. The 3D doesn't like that at all.
The 3D is a very specialized detector designed for a certain type of hunting. If the area your hunting doesn't fit that bill, you would be far ahead of the game to use a different detector, or operate the 3D in the salt mode.
The 3D is a very specialized detector designed for a certain type of hunting. If the area your hunting doesn't fit that bill, you would be far ahead of the game to use a different detector, or operate the 3D in the salt mode.
Jackpine Savage
Active member
Hi Bill,
What I liked about the CZ5 was the ability to pick and chose the "inbetween" targets that I want to dig at any given site. If its an older park with not too much deep aluminum go for the deeper tab readings and dig the bouncers that could be IH's or older nickels. If theres' lots a modern trash just dig the Hi tones. Don't get much easier than that and even Tom D admitted using this method with a CZ5 will get almost eveything the 3D will at any given site.
Tom
What I liked about the CZ5 was the ability to pick and chose the "inbetween" targets that I want to dig at any given site. If its an older park with not too much deep aluminum go for the deeper tab readings and dig the bouncers that could be IH's or older nickels. If theres' lots a modern trash just dig the Hi tones. Don't get much easier than that and even Tom D admitted using this method with a CZ5 will get almost eveything the 3D will at any given site.
Tom
Mr Bill -
I am evaluating detectors for coin hunting parks, houses, sidewalks and such. You mentioned that the CZ3 is a specialized machine for a particular job... which machine(s) do you suggest I consider for the following.
Target ID
Trash discrimiation - works well in trashy areas
Coins from all periods
budget is not too much of a concern.
I was considering the Coin$trike and the CZ3. What do you guys suggest?
What is the specialty of the CZ3 you refer to, how is it differentiated from the others?
Popsmoke
I am evaluating detectors for coin hunting parks, houses, sidewalks and such. You mentioned that the CZ3 is a specialized machine for a particular job... which machine(s) do you suggest I consider for the following.
Target ID
Trash discrimiation - works well in trashy areas
Coins from all periods
budget is not too much of a concern.
I was considering the Coin$trike and the CZ3. What do you guys suggest?
What is the specialty of the CZ3 you refer to, how is it differentiated from the others?
Popsmoke
good point!..well taken jackpine!..i wanted to buy the cz3d when they first came out,as i am always looking for an edge when coin shooting,however when i rationalized just how limited this detector would be in just about EVERY coin shooting situation,i decided to save my money!
regards!
jt.
regards!
jt.
yes!..this IS possible!..i am curious,at what depth,in YOUR soil do you start digging?..generally here in new england,the old coin layer is approximately 3 " down...MOST of the time,pull tabs are 2 1/2 " down on AVERAGE!..it CAN vary though!..always wise to determine where the layer is by sampling as you suggest,just to be sure!..gotta take the patience of job though,i would think,however i am sure it must pay off.just takes aton of patience,AND time like you stated!.
regards!
j.t.
regards!
j.t.
I am in Florida. The soil is mostly sand and has a high sink rate. It varies a lot from site to site but old coins can be very deep here. The pulltabs ususally don't extend beyond six inches or so. Sometimes here we can find zincs at ten inches or more. The only solution then is move to a site with more stable soil. I understand your soil is completely different there and there may not be much separation between old and new. Down here we would kill for a chance of old coins at three inches! HH