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Custom M6 Coin ID Chart!

Joel-Winnipeg said:
Nailbender said:
Maybe it's just me but the charts are fuzzy and I can't read them, is there a way to clear them up? Thanks.
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Just click once on the chart and that will magnify the lettering .
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Do as Joel says, click the image and it will get bigger then right click on the image with your mouse button and choose Save Picture As then choose Desktop in the drop down box then click save. Now you will have a icon on your desktop labeled COINS.jpg You can double click the icon and turn the wheel on your mouse to enlarge the chart as big as you like. Steve.
 
Wow Critterhunter koodos for standing up for what you believe in snubbing the mxt for the M6. Way to offing i see people run away or scared to say any thing about the mxt but you prefer the M6 .You know there is something about the M6 that people are now just finding out .It seem the mxt forum gang are hardcore fans and they should be but the M6 is starting to pull its own weight and sway more people towards the M6 .....ps the MXT is a great MD it is what it is and that can never change...... R-bass aka,troll,drive by poster:usmc:
 
Well, either seem to be great machines but from what I've read so far there is no depth advantage of the MXT over the M6 on coins/rings. Since I don't care about prospecting and I'd go by VDI #'s for relic hunting I don't see the MXT offering me anything the M6 can't do for what I need. Then again, there are a few curious functions on the MXT that might prove to be of some use to me under the right conditions and there are also mods for sensitivity/audio boost/tones for the MXT that are interesting. I'd like to find out if those are available for the M6.

Out of the box the less tones the MXT has would be a disadvantage to me. I need my tones as I hunt with zero discrimination most of the time. After reading about it the notch function on the MXT doesn't look too good and I mostly use a mental notch on targets to avoid anyway when I want to. I happen to prefer silent search on my QXT over threshold on other Whites I've used. On some machines such as the QXT hunting without a threshold doesn't cost you any depth on deep targets. More important to have the noise reduction OFF feature on the QXT to punch deeper.

Just curious if the M6 lacks any performance on deep coins/rings compared to the MXT because it has it's threshold just turned down internaly or if it's been designed for silent search. Much of that depends of how the machine was designed to run. IE: Hunting with the threshold turned down to nothing on a machine that was designed to have a threshold can cost you depth, but some machines meant to run in silent search are designed to compensate for that.

Either way, I'm still leaning towards the M6 as my next addition to my line up but could be convinced that the MXT is a better choice for me. The mods alone make it real interesting. I'd still like to hear more opinions on the depth of both machines for coins/rings in normal discrimination mode, or if anybody has found any other MXT function to be of great use for rings/coins that the M6 doesn't offer? Thus far what I've dug up says they are complete match in depth in discrimination for coins/rings. Any differing opinions on that?
 
mxt you can get some really deep signals by hunting with the threshold just turned up enough to hear it and better in relic mode with trigger froward listen for hi tone depending were you have your disc.set at.But never used a m6 so it might be just as deep.
 
if you have a scroll button your mouse to enlarge a item press central hold down and move scroll button on mouse same time it will enlarge and item or make it smaller depending on which way use the scroll button forward or backwards.So click on chart and once it big use scroll button like i said and you can make it bigger to read
 
Thanks Fred, I've tried that and it gets bigger and blurrier. I have other charts just wanted to check this one out too, I don't really use them I pretty much dig everything was just curious.
 
Had both and sold the MXT.. Same depth but tones on the M6 are the way to go.. Used the M6 for a few years and I miss it.. Found tons of deep stuff with it.. Best coil in my mid mineralization soil was the 5.3 and the super 12 .. I had all the coils whites made.. But these two were on my detector all the time.. Best advice I can give is use little to no discrimination, lock the ground balance and listen for solid tones.. When I give it to new people I'll tell them to listen to the sound.., If it sound like static on the radio or TV 95% of the time its trash...
 
All good tips. I've asked this before but am still looking for opinions...Which of the larger coils do people feel gives the best depth on coin/ring sized targets for the M6/MXT? My friend just picked up the 10" Whites DD coil (V Rated) but we're both curious if the 12" Whites concentric, SEF 10x12, or any of the other Excelerators like the 12.5 or 14" are deeper on those targets. I'd expect the 12" concentric to perhaps have better depth than the 10" DD provided the ground isn't mineralized. Curious if the 10x12 SEF offers better depth than the 10"DD Whites as well, but mainly we just would like to get input on which coil appears to be the deepest in non mineralized or mineralized soils. He's already settled on the 5" DD Excelerator for his trash coil as we've heard it's even better than the Whites 5".

Again, if anybody has coin VDI numbers to add to the above chart please post them and I'll add them to the next version.
 
You have some different readings from what I usually get in the ground here where I am. The only silver coins that have given VDI readings in the 77 range are a half dime and some half reales. All of the silver dimes that I have ever found are in the 81-82 range. Silver Quarters are usually 88 to 89 range and silver half dollars are 90 to 92 range. Nickles are for the most part 18-20 never had any read higher than that. Wheat Pennys are usually at 76. Copper Memorials are usually at between 77-79 and clad dimes are 78-80. Zincs are from 67 for new drops down to the low 50 range for the older less than pristine ones. I guess alot of it depends upon the area you hunt.

HH
Bill
 
Thanks for that info. We'll do some comparisons to those numbers in the field. Remember that the chart is from air testing. I would suspect that some silver and copper will read a bit higher with it's halo in the ground. Due to mineralization I would also suspect the reverse to be true at some sites. Best way to calibrate your chart in your mind is by digging any targets near those numbers to see if coins are reading any higher or lower than normal. I've hunted at spots with other machines where silver dimes read like zincs, a penny like a roundtab, and so on. Minelab's BBS and FBS machines for the most part read as true in the ground as they do in the air because they are not handling the ground signal the same way as all the VLF machines on the market. Pretty impressive technology, but because of this they don't get as much depth in air tests as other machines. In the ground it's a different beast, though.
 
I only go with the vdi reading to try to acertain exactly what I am digging before I try to pull it out.
IF you can get the time behind the M6, you can almost know what you are digging without looking at the vdi gage at all.
Copper pennies differ greatly from zinc ones just by the slight duration of tone. Same with dimes.
My M6 eats quarters with ease, nine times out of ten, if it reads quarters and the audio tones hits like a quarter, it is.

Learn your machine.
 
Nailbender said:
Maybe it's just me but the charts are fuzzy and I can't read them, is there a way to clear them up? Thanks.
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I think I figured out your problem. Are you using Explorer (desktop) to view the picture? I noticed it does the same thing but it will print it out fine.

Try this instead. Click on the chart with left button to enlarge it on this forum. Then click your right button and choose "Save Picture As...". After you save the picture use Irfanview which should be listed in your "START" window (click on START icon in lower left corner of your screen). Once your in Irfanview pick display options and then click on "fit picture to screen" or whatever it says like that. Now load the picture. Paint would also probably load the picture properly as well.

Let me know if that works. By using Explorer to open the picture file it uses Photo Editor and that program will make the picture fuzzy despite enlarging it with the roller on your mouse. It prints OK from there though if you want to do that.
 
Well to start with I'm not computor savy but I can tell you this, I have XP, I use internet explorer, I don't have Irfanview, I left clicked the picture to enlarge it then sent it to my desktop, I opened it with paint and printed it out and it was still blurry. It's not a big deal to have it but I thought it would be fun to compare with my machine & coils. Thanks for the help.
 
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