Could the X-terra Pro be a disguised twin frequency

[DigDog]

Maybe not the best analogy but takes more energy to lift one 50 lb weight than three 10 lb weights. Computers are pretty efficient at multitasking three small programs like email, web browsing and calendar but one photoshop program uses much more power

 

[Old Longhair]

I get that, but for whatever reason i run multi and battery lasts a while, run 4khz and battery drains very quickly. And im not the the only one who notices so can’t be i have a bad detector so whats the explanation then? From what
I’ve researched it takes more power to run 4khz vs 15khz. Maybe multi uses more than say 15khz but 4khz uaes more than multi? Its not just my observation and words. Maybe new processors and programs run different than older ones?
I don’t know man, its just whats out there from multiple sources.if you can find multiple sources saying the opposite then im really confused

I admit that I don't have all the answers. For one thing, I don't know if the Nox is an all-digital machine or not. The X-Terra was the first all-digital machine out there, and it pioneered the use of "Smart-Coil" technology that was later employed with the CTX.
An all-digital unit may well consume less power than a hybrid, and it's more likely to be more even in its battery consumption than a machine that isn't.

The bottom line is that we won't know anything for sure until we have them in our hands, and speculating about it w/o any real world information is nothing more than useless mental masturbation. Have a little patience, and in a few weeks we'll all have our answers.

 

[DigDog]

We should know expected battery life though. I guess time will tell

 

[Joe Black]

I have read many articles that say single frequency is no good on wet salt sand. I have seen just how good the x-terra pro seems to be on wet salt sand, it did cross my mind that could this detector be a little
more than a single frequency running at the same time. Like maybe a SMF in disguise. I am probably wrong but it does seem to perform way too good for a single frequency detector. I think it looks to be a better
detector by far than the simplex . The depth on silvers looks to be excellent too.

I was questioning that myself!

 

[DigDog]

I was questioning that myself!

Before multi there were plenty of single frequency machines for the beach but they usually ran very low frequencies like 3-4khz not so sure the frequencies 10khz and above would do so well. I would run it in 4khz though but might not be great on very small targets. It would hit on big rings, coins good ,but good luck on things like small earrings, necklaces, bracelets if jewelry is what you are after.
The thing is PI machines aside multi frequency came out to be great on the beach with detectors like excall, and then the Nox, etc. It was the solution to all the problems on the beach and to find targets the single frequencies didn’t see. Now we go back in time to just a single frequency and for the beach no less I don’t know..
I would use it just as a land detector but thats just me.

 

[Joe Black]

I was able to get my Equinox 900 back in December. The dealer I bought it from had it drop shipped from the distributor. They are still struggling to get the Manticore out and God only knows how long it'll take to get the X Terra Pro rolled out. I preordered one & the dealer says they're expecting to ship them in the May 1 - 15 window but no guarantee on that.
I can't figure out how a company can announce new products without a plan to flood the marketplace with them.

I totally agree! I feel very fortunate to have the Manticore in my possession right now. I’m glad I preordered mine in mid August. Minelab really needs to keep product shipping out in order to keep a customer base happy! That’s seriously important!……. If they fail to do that enough, that leaves Nokta to step in & fulfill the demands. Nokta has gained many followers because of those practices. Good prices & good quality detectors, while answering the demands from customers goes a long way.

 

[DigDog]

I was a minelab and tesoro guy. Then tesoro went out of business and ML had alot of issues so Nokta got my business.
Ill still get a ML but they became secondary. Spending over $1000 on a secondary detector is really tough.
If they cut their prices back down its alot easier to deal with the issues.
$260 on a detector when it used to be twice that much is a step in the right direction

 

[Joe Black]

I was a minelab and tesoro guy. Then tesoro went out of business and ML had alot of issues so Nokta got my business.
Ill still get a ML but they became secondary. Spending over $1000 on a secondary detector is really tough.
If they cut their prices back down its alot easier to deal with the issues.
$260 on a detector when it used to be twice that much is a step in the right direction

This happened when the first flatscreen tv’s came out. They were way expensive for what they were. Now you can get a bigger & better one for half of the cost it was back then for same size Tv.

 

[Smigo]

I still have an Xterra 705 and I struggle to see how this is an Xterra!
Its just a cheaper version to fill a gap by Minelab of their machines like the Equinox.
Not cheaper as in its no good but a cheaper version of say the Nox, trading on the great reputation of the actual Xterras. Draw in those who know the Terras are awesome thinking they'll upgrade. Bells n whistles one may but no, im not about to fall for it. The small diffs between the frequencies to me is ridiculous to say the least. Money grab. Now if they had diffs by tens between them ok, but as is, nah, keep it.

 

[GaryB]

I have a 705 also, had it for 14 or 15 years. I’m not hung up on names, the Pro is an X Terra because Minelab says it Is. The only thing the Pro has in common with the original X Terras is that both are changeable single frequency machines. The coil had to be changed on the originals in order to change the operating frequency. It wasn’t quick and certainly not cheap because it required three additional coils to have four frequencies. On the X Terra pro you just press a button. I don’t recall exactly how much the 705 cost in 2008 but it was probably twice what the pro costs and the Pro will easily out perform it. Time and technology march on.
The X Terra Pro is a changeable single frequency machine that fits on the low end of the Equinox series, it could just as well have been named Equinox Lite. I would have loved to be a fly on the wall at the meetings when Minelab chose the name.
“What's in a name? That which we call a rose. By any other name would smell as sweet.”

 

[Old Longhair]

It amuses me that people who have never even seen the new machine can draw so many conclusions about it by watching a few videos.

 

[GaryB]

It amuses me that people who have never even seen the new machine can draw so many conclusions about it by watching a few videos.

The manual is available for download on Minelab's website. A lot can be learned by reading it and watching videos.

 

[morelic1955]

I can tell from just the manual that is is more than a "Baby Nox".

 

[GaryB]

I can tell from just the manual that is is more than a "Baby Nox".

Here are the spec pages from the X Terra Pro and the Equinox 700/900 manuals and I came to the conclusion that a Nox Lite is exactly what it is.

 

[morelic1955]

I could not care if the Pro is like the other machines. I'm comparing it to the X-Terra 70 and 705. Not here to argue about similarities. I had the Nox 800 and hated it. Besides the old X-Terra series, in my hands will out hunt anything I've ever had, Period!
Spend the $269, buy one like I am and then let us know. I'm not a coinshooter, strictly a relic hunter, so I have not watched any videos on how it performs in parks. My game is to set it up in all metal, 2 tone set to auto-trac like I use my other X-Terras. I
have found plenty of buttons and other coin sized objects at the 12-15 inch depth with them. If it fails that test, well, it will not be a big loss of money for me!

 

[GaryB]

I could not care if the Pro is like the other machines. I'm comparing it to the X-Terra 70 and 705. Not here to argue about similarities. I had the Nox 800 and hated it. Besides the old X-Terra series, in my hands will out hunt anything I've ever had, Period!
Spend the $269, buy one like I am and then let us know. I'm not a coinshooter, strictly a relic hunter, so I have not watched any videos on how it performs in parks. My game is to set it up in all metal, 2 tone set to auto-trac like I use my other X-Terras. I
have found plenty of buttons and other coin sized objects at the 12-15 inch depth with them. If it fails that test, well, it will not be a big loss of money for me!

Ok, get where you’re coming from but other than the name it it doesn’t have anything in common with the previous X Terras.

 

[GaryB]

@morelic1955 , what coil did you use most with your 705? After running the standard coil for a year or so I bought the 18.75KHz for better discrimination in trashy parks and never took it off. I'm curious what you use for relic hunting.

 

[morelic1955]

@morelic1955 , what coil did you use most with your 705? After running the standard coil for a year or so I bought the 18.75KHz for better discrimination in trashy parks and never took it off. I'm curious what you use for relic hunting.

I use a 18.75kHz 10.5 DD Have used that coil along with the 5x10 HF coil in heavy nails/iron.

 

[GaryB]

Mine is the 6" solid body double D coil. The only disadvantage being loss of coverage. When the weather gets a little better I want to try single frequency at 40KHz on my Nox 900. Maybe I'll find somebody's lost earings.

 

[fematrailer]

I have read many articles that say single frequency is no good on wet salt sand. I have seen just how good the x-terra pro seems to be on wet salt sand, it did cross my mind that could this detector be a little
more than a single frequency running at the same time. Like maybe a SMF in disguise. I am probably wrong but it does seem to perform way too good for a single frequency detector. I think it looks to be a better
detector by far than the simplex . The depth on silvers looks to be excellent too.

Talked to a dealer today and his friend tested his Xterra Pro on an oscilloscope in beach mode and said it's using multiple frequencies in Beach. Wow! I called Minelab and spoke to tech support and they said it's very possible. Maybe we can just hunt in Beach all the time.