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DeepTech

CORTES FINISHED IN LAST PLACE,,,WHY???

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bustercrab

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The only Tesoro I own is the Silver Umax and I stood on the sideline watching...Two club members have the Cortes and another has the Minelab Soverign GT...The GT detected a signal that the Cortes could not...It turned out to be a part of a minni ball...Any input on why this happened...If a person spends his hard earned money on a machine to find deep items and it turns out that another brand can go deeper,something is wrong...
 
Maybe the frequency of the GT. It has 17 and one may have picked up the item in and around Iron.
And it may have been just out of range on the depth of the Cortes......
 
Who knows? May be he was using too much discrimination. May be he needed manual ground balance. May be he had dirt on his coil. May be he was just tired, I don't know. But we can all tell you that even a 22 bullet would be no problem for a Cortes to pick up. So may be his MD was broke. Does sound a little far fetched.

I make my booty by finding what other people don't.

Why? Because they are doing it wrong. That's how I get mine. It ain't just Mindlab that's leaving me all this stuff. And I could find most of it with a Compadre.
And I don't want to match a Compadre with a high priced Mindlab. But in reality I do. Why can't a Mindlab find what a Compadre can.

People think just because they got a Whites or a Mindlab that they are better hunters than people without them. Well dream on buba. There may be bumbs on the street looking for a quarters that can out hunt a lot of us.

It's not the detector, it's how you use it. And I hear all these other guys say otherwise as they leave me my booty.

My hat's off to them,
 
I don't think tabdog is mad at all, I think he said some very great things. He is right about it not being so much about the detector than it is the person using the detector. I know the Cortes or any other Tesoro will do just as good (probably better) than any other brand. Very well sad tabdog. Steve.
 
I agree with Tabdog, maybe the the guy using the Cortes was moving to fast for the Cortes to pick up a small item or sweeps were not close enough together. The deeper the item you are trying to find it pays big to slow down and overlap your sweeps to get the best out of any machine. Plus I believe any machine can miss something one day and hit it the next just because of weather conditions or how the operator feels about digging what he or she interprets what their machine is telling them
 
I'm sorry Bustercrab.

I'm not mad.:shrug: Unless you want to question my sanity:blink: Then you may have something.

I think it's more like I'm like a dumb Arkie and sometimes I accidentally come on too strong. I embarrass my kids. I'll say what I think before I think about what I'm saying. It's become worse after I retired. I feel as though I don't have to worry about my behavior because I'm no longer responsible for my professional standing as a registered land surveyor. I've been ram roding crews so long that I think people are supposed to jump when I say jump. They don't:blink:

I'm truly sorry I when I offend anyone. Please forgive me:surrender:
 
Fear not! I have found things with my machine that I missed with the same machine before. Does that mean that my machine is better than my machine? No, it just means that sometimes you are up to it, sometimes you're not. The guy with the Cortes may not have been up to it that day.
 
He is, hes mad!!!!!, Jk
It seems I always find somethin when I go out. But, not yesterday after my quick 2 hour hunt. I use Whites machines, so is somethin wrong with my machines? no. I got a signal on a deep penny/dime about three days ago on a quick hunt, using my XL Pro. I went to the truck and got my M6 out and ran its coil across the target. The M6 wouldnt pick it up very well. On one swing it wouldnt hit on it. Both machines a 6 inch coil. Plus, both machines were used in a disc motion mode. But I have found deep targets with the M6. This particular target was at 8 inches. So it happens.
Well one things for sure, If I keep lurking over on this forum Im gonna have to buy a Tesoro of some kind,lol. Dont get no ideas, I will hang on to my Pro and M6.
HH,
John
 
[quote bustercrab]The only Tesoro I own is the Silver Umax and I stood on the sideline watching...Two club members have the Cortes and another has the Minelab Soverign GT...The GT detected a signal that the Cortes could not...It turned out to be a part of a minni ball...Any input on why this happened...If a person spends his hard earned money on a machine to find deep items and it turns out that another brand can go deeper,something is wrong...[/quote][size=medium]My first question was why did you stand on the sideline? Didn't you want to check that target with your Silver
 
i was informed that the sovrighn gt is a very deep seeking detector i now see evedence in your post i sugjest you get a sovren gt for your deeper finds the cortez probly is just not as deep as the other for shure but it may exel in the park im learning depth is not all my silver umax whith 8" coil is not as deep as the cibola BUT''' it will hit strong down to 5" really strong and is going to work great in the parks i would rather have a 200 dallar machine stolin from my car than a 700 dallar one thanks for you r confirmation on the sovrighn depth
 
I jumped into this on the post farther up the site so I won't go into that again. But to me, depth isn't everything. Quick response, handling masking, picking up a coin on an angle or on edge, good discrimination, ease of handling, and last, but not least, a good selection of coil types and sizes are as important as depth. When it's all said and done, I don't want to dig halfway to China (LOL) for a small bullet or coin. My thinking is - if you like your machine, whatever it is, and are finding goodies, keep hunting and don't worry about brand x,y or Z being a bit deeper. My two bits.
HH
Bill
 
monte hit it right on, and so did barber bill, to me depth is not everything, i personally dont want to dig a foot each time my detector hits on something. i have presently a xlt, time ranger lobo traq, cortes, tejon, land star, never used a mine lab sure they are great, but seemed like a allot of money to take a chance on not liking it. metal detecting is to be enjoyed as time along or with others, and i agree what ever brand you like use. people are finding great things with all brands. i have my personal favorite, tesoro, but they are not the only good detector. the detector is only as good as the person using it, and each person has a brand that will fit them and give them better results. does that mean that the other brands are no good. no, that just means that, that certain brand is better for them. i dont get caught up in cult like brand loyality, it just a detector, so find the one that works best for you and go find stuff. there i hope that came out right dont want to get linched again!
 
I agree with what you said. have fun and use what is comfortable. Depth can be the most overused expression that describes a detector.
 
If you can get in a grove that works for you, then that's your vehicle to use in the enjoyment of success in your hobby.

I got into using one brand. That brand works for me. I have three different detectors that use the same 12X10 concentric, 8X10 stock, 8" concentric, 7" concentric and a 5.75" concentric coils. They all use the same coils.:) That is really handy. But it doesn't make the machines better than someone else's. It just works for me.

I have a fourth detector that is the least expensive machine that my brand makes. It's 7" coil is hard wired to the control box. It has no buttons or switches, just one knob that turns it on and adjust the discriminator. It doesn't go very deep, but you can clean out a tot lot with it. That's where I get my best finds, tot lots. So even that cheep $150 machine will produce for me.

I had a Bounty Hunter that was a coin magnet. I had a Garrett that was more versatile in my hands, but it wasn't for me. I just didn't enjoy my self as much with those.

If you can find a groove that works for you, it enhances this great hobby.

I wish every body good luck in your quest,
 
If you like to detect in tot lots, even the lowley Compadre will produce.

The sand, gravel or wood chips doesn't go very deep. Most tot lots don't have many deep targets.

That cheep little machine makes a great tot lot machine.

I've got one just for that. It was used and in new condition. $100. I think that's hard to beat.
 
[quote Pap]I agree with what you said. have fun and use what is comfortable. Depth can be the most overused expression that describes a detector.[/quote]

i agree Pap, it is funny because with my tejon, i have yet to own a detector that go's as deep as it. but thats not the thing that makes it my favorite detector thus far. it,s light , the dual disc., the manual ground balance in both modes, the adjustable freq, of the tone, the selection of coils. and the ease of use makes it my favorite. i would have to say that depth would be my last consideration. i do mostly coin hunting and unless the ground is really unstable, coins tend to be in the 1 to 6 inches max. so to me depth is not that important. stability, quick recovery, and good disc { able to ignore iron } is what i'm concerned with. and with tennis elbow a light machine. other than that lets go hunting and maybe some day i'll learn how to post my finds. good hunting.
 
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