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Compadre on chains
- Thread starter TN Mike
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better machines out there than an at pro for the money but that's just what I think 
nothing wrong with a comp I liked it so much I got 3 
in some places they put the high end machine in its place like the cupboard 
so match the machine to the spot for maximum fun
and please do not mistake my words of hard work with no enjoyment if I wanted to get rich I would become an investment banker or something that pays big cash, detecting is all about fun, its a physical activity so of cause its a bit of hard work but what an office
so screw the suit and tie metal detecting till I die
so yeah its all fun and God willing I can do it for a few more years yet
so yep good luck to all and the fun is you just never know what's going to pop out.
AJ
PS those bits of bling that are not gold or silver go to my friend she loves them hangs them up on stuff you know like what women do that gives me a buzz just as much as anything else
nothing wrong with a comp I liked it so much I got 3 in some places they put the high end machine in its place like the cupboard so match the machine to the spot for maximum fun
and please do not mistake my words of hard work with no enjoyment if I wanted to get rich I would become an investment banker or something that pays big cash, detecting is all about fun, its a physical activity so of cause its a bit of hard work but what an office
so screw the suit and tie metal detecting till I die
so yeah its all fun and God willing I can do it for a few more years yet
so yep good luck to all and the fun is you just never know what's going to pop out.
AJ
PS those bits of bling that are not gold or silver go to my friend she loves them hangs them up on stuff you know like what women do that gives me a buzz just as much as anything else
kaolinwasher
Well-known member
have not used the compadre in a wile , but I think its better than the Tejon at finding chains, and small things, Now if they ever put a gain on it and a ground balance and ability to change coils you would have one of the best jewelry machines on the market. but the compadre with both hands tied behind its back as it is . is a power house .
Southwind
Well-known member
Well this new term "micro jewelry" may fool some in to making finding smaller gold sound less important but none of the gold in my videos is micro. These are all earrings and chains. None of which I shrug at.
You don't have to run in AM to find the smaller gold if you use the right detector.
You don't have to run in AM to find the smaller gold if you use the right detector.
Southwind
Well-known member
Not a bad idea. Take note of how far away from the coil your detector will still hit gold good. That was the deciding factor for me. As I said, I've got tot lots with wood chips as deep as 10" or more. Heavy gold sinks pretty quickly to the bottom of the fill. If your tot lot is sand it is not such a big deal.
machineman
Member
The real issue with micro jewelry is it sounds and reads like foil on most machines. Every piece is a different small usually weak signal. Basket ball courts are great for micro jewelry. I have found lots of earrings. The dirt behind the hoops is usually best for me then I work all the edges to about 1' out. 5.75" Compadre is great for this because it doesnt react to the rebar in the concrete slab as badly as more powerful detectors. When it comes down to it micro jewelry is more about how much you are willing to dig. Good luck.
Mike Hillis
Well-known member
Southwind,
All those little round pieces give good strong signals and hit as non-ferrous on my Fisher/Teks.
I consider Micro to be the single post high content gold earing studs or the very fine chains. Those are the tiny gold signals that require a little specialization to find. Very high frequency required to keep them in the non-ferrous range and allow the use of iron discimination.
The units with a soft ferrous/non-ferrous boundary with expanded iron range can help too, such as the ATPro and F19 have. The really hard to find tiny stuff will fall just below the ferrous cutoff and sound as iron. The AT Pro allows the audio to be dialed down so you can still hear these as non-ferrous. The F19 allows the same, and goes one step better, you can dial in to only hear those responses. The AT Pro can as well but not as fine. The neat thing is that very little trash falls in this range so the treasure to trash ratio is higher. Its a little window of treasure in the midst of trash.
I have a Compadre but don't use it much as I have other units with better feature sets to do the same thing.
HH
Mike
All those little round pieces give good strong signals and hit as non-ferrous on my Fisher/Teks.
I consider Micro to be the single post high content gold earing studs or the very fine chains. Those are the tiny gold signals that require a little specialization to find. Very high frequency required to keep them in the non-ferrous range and allow the use of iron discimination.
The units with a soft ferrous/non-ferrous boundary with expanded iron range can help too, such as the ATPro and F19 have. The really hard to find tiny stuff will fall just below the ferrous cutoff and sound as iron. The AT Pro allows the audio to be dialed down so you can still hear these as non-ferrous. The F19 allows the same, and goes one step better, you can dial in to only hear those responses. The AT Pro can as well but not as fine. The neat thing is that very little trash falls in this range so the treasure to trash ratio is higher. Its a little window of treasure in the midst of trash.
I have a Compadre but don't use it much as I have other units with better feature sets to do the same thing.
HH
Mike
Mike Hillis
Well-known member
Southwind,
Try it with the ATPro first and see what you think. Just dial in the 30 to 40 range as a mid tone and disc out everything else. I like the 34 to 40 range. Lots of little jewelry peices show up around between 36 and 40 but I open it up just a little bit more. I do this with the F19 and my ETProV. Not only will you like what you find but you'll also discover there isn't that much trash there. A few tiny foil balls and the occasional small wire fragment, but for the most part its a fairly trash free zone.
I have to remember to create a program for this on my V3i.
The new toned Golden uMax had promise in this area as well. At least the one I had did. The new gold tone could be pushed around by the notch setting. I could push the gold tone down into the ferrous range to a certain degree and at least get a mixed ferrous/gold tone audio reports on the tiny non-ferrous. Tesoro still doesn't have a clue as to what they had with the new toned Golden. I often wish I had never sold that particular detector. But at the time I thought it was no big deal. i'd just buy a plain jane one and have it updated, but when I tried that I found out they quit offering the update too. Stupid Tesoro. Stupid Me.
Good luck.
Mike
Try it with the ATPro first and see what you think. Just dial in the 30 to 40 range as a mid tone and disc out everything else. I like the 34 to 40 range. Lots of little jewelry peices show up around between 36 and 40 but I open it up just a little bit more. I do this with the F19 and my ETProV. Not only will you like what you find but you'll also discover there isn't that much trash there. A few tiny foil balls and the occasional small wire fragment, but for the most part its a fairly trash free zone.
I have to remember to create a program for this on my V3i.
The new toned Golden uMax had promise in this area as well. At least the one I had did. The new gold tone could be pushed around by the notch setting. I could push the gold tone down into the ferrous range to a certain degree and at least get a mixed ferrous/gold tone audio reports on the tiny non-ferrous. Tesoro still doesn't have a clue as to what they had with the new toned Golden. I often wish I had never sold that particular detector. But at the time I thought it was no big deal. i'd just buy a plain jane one and have it updated, but when I tried that I found out they quit offering the update too. Stupid Tesoro. Stupid Me.
Good luck.
Mike
all the fine stuff (gold chains etc..) I have tested with F19 came in there on the 40 or a bounce in to high 30's so yep good plan to just target that range when its hot out
I have found super small washers like minute , chain, fine coated electrical wire with the Vaquaro and detech 6 x 8 coil super nice set up but no notch so dig dig everything winter sport for me doing that stuff.
but it has to be there 1st right cant find something that's not there !!
AJ
I have found super small washers like minute , chain, fine coated electrical wire with the Vaquaro and detech 6 x 8 coil super nice set up but no notch so dig dig everything winter sport for me doing that stuff.
but it has to be there 1st right cant find something that's not there !!
AJ
pulltaber
Member
Southwind said:
southwind, I have found a lot of gold chains over the years with a lot of different inclining the ATP .I have also found some chains with my Tesoro Stingray that the ATP could not hit till the iron dicemante was turned down to 15 .I have got a thin broken in half 10 k ring that the ATP will not hit even if I touch it to the coil. in pro iron dis 0 . the old sting ray will sill hit it at min dis at two inches and even better in the all meal. If you want to find it all you have to dig it all .I have also noticed that chains do not sink like a ring because they are lighter an when they are dropped they will srpead out and have more surface area so they will usually not be more then about 5 Inches any way .That's as deep that I have found even with the ATP or with a Sand Shark pi.So if the compadre will hit them at 5 in with dis set at min not at the iron setting you are not missing much