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Coil Cable Question

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54shooter

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The cable on my 6X8 sef coil is all stretched out and I have a heck of a time getting it inside the shafts. I ended up with this loop in the cable trying to adjust everything shorter. Is the loop a bad thing or does it affect the way it works at all. I have found some fairly deep junk with it but I threw one of my silver rings in a 3" deep hole and checked it and it wouldn't hit on it except with the very tip of the coil. I'd say maybe the top 2". When I swung right over the top of it I got nothing. Needless to say this worries me as I could be walking right over a lot of good targets. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks All, Tony
 
Tony, this might help you out. I never run my cable through the shafts. I have several coils each with a lower shaft for a quick change out. I always wrap the cable around the shafts and hold in place with Velcro ties. This method allows you to take-up or add slack in your cables. Give it a try, it works and it will for you as well ! :detecting:
 
You want to not have spare coil hanging out. It will hang up on things and cause unnecessary wear. Cord needs to be secure but not stretched tight.
 
OK, I know I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer but I can't see how to have the coil cable on the outside and still be able to put everything together. What am I missing here?
 
Alright shooter, unscrew and take the cable loose from the E-trac. Then pull cable back through the shafts until it is loose/free back down to the coil. If necessary readjust the lower shaft in the upper shaft to your desired length. Now wrap the cable around the outside of the shafts (like a candy-cane) up the shafts and reconnect the cable connector back to the E-Trac leaving enough slack that the coil can move freely back and forth.... but not to have that big Loop that was showing in the way .... I then like to use Velcro ties to hold the cable snugly against the shafts. It's a very simple fix for the problem of your original picture showing that excessive loop of cable. Like I said in my earlier post, I never bother with trying to pull cables up through the inside shafts... as it is a pain in the...*>^... if you know what I mean !:detecting:
 
roadapple said:
Alright shooter, unscrew and take the cable loose from the E-trac. Then pull cable back through the shafts until it is loose/free back down to the coil. If necessary readjust the lower shaft in the upper shaft to your desired length. Now wrap the cable around the outside of the shafts (like a candy-cane) up the shafts and reconnect the cable connector back to the E-Trac leaving enough slack that the coil can move freely back and forth.... but not to have that big Loop that was showing in the way .... I then like to use Velcro ties to hold the cable snugly against the shafts. It's a very simple fix for the problem of your original picture showing that excessive loop of cable. Like I said in my earlier post, I never bother with trying to pull cables up through the inside shafts... as it is a pain in the...*>^... if you know what I mean !:detecting:
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Sure would like to see a picture of this. :)
 
OK, are there E-Tracs the have the coil cable connection on the outside of the upper shaft? I can't figure out what your telling me. How do I connect the upper shaft to the unit? That's why I added the pic to my last reply. Maybe these pics will help you understand my dilemma. Is my E-trac to old or new to be able to do this? All of my other detectors have the coil cable wrapped around the shaft but none of them connect like my E-Trac.
 
54shooter said:
OK, are there E-Tracs the have the coil cable connection on the outside of the upper shaft? I can't figure out what your telling me. How do I connect the upper shaft to the unit? That's why I added the pic to my last reply. Maybe these pics will help you understand my dilemma. Is my E-trac to old or new to be able to do this? All of my other detectors have the coil cable wrapped around the shaft but none of them connect like my E-Trac.
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I believe you have discovered the obvious,,,,mr. roadapple is full of roadapples and has no idea of what he speaks. :)
It has been evident from a number of his other posts but you have fully exposed him now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
the guy maybe has a x1 probe if thats the case the cable is on the outside mine is stock e tracs are all run thru the shaft unless you have the probe that could be what he means dennis
 
Well I sure couldn't see what I was missing. I also understand the obvious about the loop of cable being prone to snagging and the like, I was wondering if the loop could cause the info the unit was receiving be compromised in some way.
 
LOL ....... I do have the X1 probe .....LOL ,,,, thats exactly your problem is you need an X1 probe for this application LOL ......Sorry my bad..... get a knife an cut the s. o. b. /or buy a probe ...LoL...:rofl:
 
Think I'll pass on both Thanks though.
 
I keep a 2 ft. piece of shoe lace with a small metal nut on the end in my bag - just lower the end with the nut down the shaft - tie it on the cable and pull it though the shaft - make the connection.
 
Thanks ETO,
My main problem there is I can't shorten the shafts without making that loop down by the coil. I was also wondering if the loop affected the way the detector reads things in the ground. It must not cause nowone's warned me about it. That's what was worrying me. Thanks for taking the time to help me. Good Luck and HH
 
Tony save yourself a LOT of headaches, spend the extra bucks and get a upper AND lower shaft then swapping coils takes like 30 seconds, it was one of the best things I EVER purchased extra for my etrac, that is the best and QUICKEST way!!!!!!!!!

as for the first time you put the coil cord up the shaft, take a rag and dump baby powder on it and rub it all over the cord, it will glide right up the shaft much easier! I did this once and never again because like I said I have two upper and lower shafts, one for my stock coil and one for my 6x8 so i can swap them in 30 seconds
 
The biggest problem as i see it is that dangling cable having metal conductors will likely cause falses when it moves around relative to the coil.

What i would do is get some black plastic tie wraps to secure the cable to the shaft to take up the slack and keep the cable from moving around while sweeping.
 
Thanks Terry the baby powder worked like a charm. I have an extra lower shaft and I'll keep an eye out for a upper and take care of the problem for good. I really don't use my pro coil anyway but that will be a fix that might make me not dread swapping coils. Thanks to everyone for their help, Tony
 
I just traded for a new lower and upper shaft. I dont adjust my shafts once they are set. Being new I found threading cables is a pain. With that said, you can re train the cable by wrapping around a pencil and hitting it gently with a hair dryer. But I would not do that. I think your best bet is to leave it alone too.
 
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