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Cen-Tech Pinpointer

Wow.........! You see it before you and yet you are just too blind to see! Lets say it like this, your Cen-tek it just a common two dimensional detector like *all* the rest. The Garrett ADDS depth to the configuration. Did you not notice the Cen-tek just turn and off like a light switch when the coin finally got close enough to the detector? Did you not notice the Garrett start slow beeping when the coin got within range and beeped faster and faster as the coin got closer and closer? The Garrett is a 3 dimensional pin pointer. YOU CAN TELL HOW FAR YOU ARE AWAY FROM THE COIN :thumbup:
I'll never understand how someone will spend $800 or more for a first-class metal detector, then buy a super cheap class-less (my opinion) "better'n nothin" pinpointer and run around braggin about it !

But hey gentleman, I'll be the first to defend your right to own one of these, after all I did, sure I owned one, fixed it all up with vibrator mods and laughed at the Garrett airheads till I .........tried the Garrett. :thumbup:

Go back and re- review the demo, till you get it.
 
As stated before, if your machine (and yourself) is good at pinpointing, the pinpointer you use doesn't really matter much. My centech will get me within 1 to 1 1/2 inches which is similar to the other ones. Does it have vibration, no but it works. As I also said earlier, I would rather leave a 15 dollar pinpointer at a site than a 100 dollar one.

I have yet to leave one but in the event that I do, I am only out 15 dollars.

No one is saying that the propointer isn't good. If you are happy with that's great. I am happy with my centech.
 
How far do you go with that, Laugh-at-life. Did you marry an ugly girl with knobby knees and a wart on here nose, 'cause you might loose 'er. Do you drive an old beat-up Ford P.U. with the rods a-knockin' 'cause someone might steal it. I think you'd much less likely to loose a pinpointer that cost $126.45 than one that only cost $14.95. Sucks, I'd probably TRY to loose one of those once a week or so and go buy a new one! But, friend I DO respect your opinion. The best.........! :cheers:
 
Cen-TEC pinpointer. Good on drywall. Not very good in the dirt as it doesn't detect more than inch away from metal and you can't hear it with headphones on. Trust me on this one - go for the Garrett Pro Pointer (it will cost about $125 more than the Cen-Tec but you'll never leave home without it.
 
silversmith said:
How far do you go with that, Laugh-at-life. Did you marry an ugly girl with knobby knees and a wart on here nose, 'cause you might loose 'er. Do you drive an old beat-up Ford P.U. with the rods a-knockin' 'cause someone might steal it. I think you'd much less likely to loose a pinpointer that cost $126.45 than one that only cost $14.95. Sucks, I'd probably TRY to loose one of those once a week or so and go buy a new one! But, friend I DO respect your opinion. The best.........! :cheers:

That was a little harsh don't you think?

First and foremost, I am a woman so I did not "marry an ugly girl with knobby knees and a wart on "here" nose"

Secondly I wouldn't buy a Ford Truck (No offense to those who have them)

and Third, If you can pinpoint well with your detector why do you even need a pinpointer? If someone is just starting out, use a centech. I never once said the garret was worthless. IF YOU CAN AFFORD ONE GO FOR IT.

As far as losing them goes, ask around how many people have left their pinpointers. How many have put on reflective tape or colored them something bright so they can see them when they have to go back.

Just because it doesn't cost over 100 dollars does not mean it is worthless.
 
And well put all the way around.
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Ron R.
 
:argue:

:stretcher:

ummm, looks like rain here.............................
 
Thank you kydigger. I will not sink to that persons level. That is not what forums are about. We are here to help others and to ask for help as well.
 
Hi Ken:

You won't be happy with the CenTec. It was my first pinpointer and it helps save time
locating the target but you have to be right on top of it and even touch the target to
get signal. Pinpointers are great because sometimes the target blends in with the dirt
and you just can't see it.

I would not go with the Whites pinpointer, though its a good one but for about $25
more you can get the Garrett Pro-pointer; its even better and gets more depth than Whites or Bounty
Hunter ($35 to $45). I got my propointer for $129 but I know people who have gotten their for less
because they shopped around.

I still have my CenTec. You can have it if you want it. I think its still in the trunk of my car.
Send me an address and I'll pop it off to you no strings.


Now if you have the money there are some fancy pinpointers that get 3 inches depth or more but
your talking $169 and up for like a SunRay I think one of them is called.

The propointer will get youo 2inches or more depending on the size of your target.

Katz
 
I am very satisfied with mine. Just fixed it (new sodering) and tweaked via post here, good to go!1 Thanks.
 
Ken:
Your message got to me just fine.
Its been cold and raining here in Indiana and I wasn't doing
much but just sitting around stuffing myself. Be dodged a bullet
today; we were suppose to get hit
will massive amounts of snow but be
got rain instead.

I'll send it to you
in the next couple of days.
Katz

Praying for Spring to get here!
 
lafatlife said:
Go to harbor freight online and order it that way. I have had one for 2 years and I am quite happy with it. The case/holder for it is not very good and falls apart easy, but you can rig up something else for it. If it breaks, it's only 16 bucks. If you get a propointer and it breaks, that's over 100 bucks. The difference is what 1/2 an inch or so?

The Pro Pointer comes with a two year warranty. Primarily pinpointer failure is going to be due to moisture or dirt contamination that gets into the switches. The Pro Pointer has a sealed switch and the manual states it can be washed off under water. If you seal the speaker hole with silicon (shoe goo) and put an o-ring under the screw on battery cap (to be sure that won't leak, though it doesn't look like it will) I bet the unit could be made completely waterproof down a few feet anyway.

When I had the Harbor Freight unit I thought about making it more waterproof, but that would require modding it by changing the switch and sensitivity pot and sealing the entire box. Not sure how you'd even manage that with the slide on battery cover. It's bulky square housing makes getting it out and sticking it in a hole more of a hassle. Even after modding the holder it was still useless as it grabs at the unit when I try to remove it with one hand. The Pro Pointer's holster never fights the holder removing or re-holstering it with one hand like the Centech did for me. I was also going to add a pager motor and do a few other things to it but didn't feel the performance was worth the extra money and time.

My primary dislike of the Centech (and many other pinpointers for that matter) is they are very picky with sensitivity settings to get any kind of depth out of them, where as the Pro Pointer automaticly adjusts that when turned on. Once you think you've got the Centech set at home and get out in the field I found the amount of moisture in the air would cause it to false at that setting. Once I thought I had it set right the unit would false when touching the ground with it's tip. By the time I'd tweak that low enough to not get so eratic the depth was at best 1/2".

I played with the internal POT to adjust the sensitivity but so far as I could tell it was simply a way to raise it or lower it, offering the external switch a different window of adjustment range. In other words, the only benefit people would get from adjusting the internal pot is if the external sensitivity setting is maxed out and the unit still hasn't reached a level of unstability. I found mine was already unstabile with the external knob no where near max so adjusting it made no difference. Also be careful because you might think it can handle a higher adjustment level at home and so adjust the internal pot, but once you've got out in the field you might find even the lowest external knob setting is now falsing.

Somebody above said..."By the way. I do wonder why people need a hundred dollar pinpointer that that will detect at 3+ inches." Simple reason. It allows you to find the target without getting back up and re-pinpointing with the machine. After a long day of hunting I got real sick of getting back up because the Centech couldn't find the target. My pinpointing skills with my new Sovereign GT are not as good yet as they were with my Whites. Besides, when you are using a machine like this that can get some really outstanding depth you'll find that targets can be much deeper than originaly thought. With the Centech I'd start to wonder if I was off with my plug since I couldn't get a signal. As soon as a friend would throw me his Pro Pointer I could instantly find the target, often deeper or off to the side more than I thought. After many long days of the Centech not finding it for me and bugging my friend to throw me his Pro Pointer I finally had enough.

Not to mention that if you are using a screwdriver like you should in ball fields or other areas where we might lose our right to detect if people keep digging plugs all over the place on shallow targets when they don't have to, the Pro Pointer will give me that extra depth stock or even much more super tuned to really get down there and locate my target so I can pop it

I'm not trying to discourage people from buying the Centech. Like I said, it's better than nothing, but I would caution people who might think from reading these threads that it's just as good as say the ProPointer or Vibraprobe. It doesn't even come close, and the difference for me was whatever mild satisfaction I got using the Centech was more than overwhelmed by a lot of aggrevation on most targets. It would false enough on ground minerals to have me chasing my tail, or be so picky with it's adjustment that I could have dug the target out without a pinpointer by the time I got it tuned properly. You've got to ride the edge of unstability with it to get any kind of depth, and there's a very thin line between decent performance and falsing.

In the end, though, it's only $20 and you can not go wrong for that price. If you plan to do a lot of clad or other very shallow target hunting it will be useful to find some of those without digging and then popping with your screwdriver. When targets are three to four times deeper than that you'll still be able to locate them with the Pro Pointer but not the Centech. It saves time trying to find it with a screwdriver without digging. And, if using a machine that gets really good depth you'll find that targets are going to be further away from the initial plug you dig, either deeper or slightly off to the side, and that's also where the Pro Pointer really shines.
 
ken(toronto) said:
Here's a video showing the performance of the Garrett pro-pointer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUoUkG5x7N8

here's a video on the Cen-tech:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx07M749bYU

I see difference of about 1/2"

Ken

Here's the big difference. The Pro Pointer will get better depth when you turn it on in the field because it doesn't have to adjust down as far to eliminate nearby electrical noise. On the other hand, the reverse is true for the Centech. I could get some pretty amazing depth out of it (still not near the Pro Pointer's depth, though) but once I got out in the field the ground minerals or moisture would cause me to have to lower it much more. I even noticed that the Centech will tune to some good depth while it's pointing upside down or sideways in the air but as soon as I pointed it downward (still in the air and away from anything, mind you) the unit would start falsing. Not sure why that's the case. Maybe it's the earth's magnetic field or something.

I agree the Whites are not great, even the new ones. If you dig up the reviews you'll find the Vibraprobe (which I think is a PI) is a close second to the ProPointer. The Vibraprobe will get more depth but I think it's heavier and bigger. I also don't care for it's automatic turning on/off (flip it upside down and it comes on with no switches) because I'd be afraid it would be sitting in my trunk just the right away to keep going on and off. It's fully waterproof, though, so that's a big plus for water hunters. The ProPointer fits in your hand much better than the Centech and can be removed from the holster, turned on, super tuned, used, and put back in the holster with one hand. Not possible for me when I used the Centech. Two hands to get it unsnagged from the holster. Two hands to hold the button down to turn it on and adjusted it sticking the probe against the dirt. Two hands to get it back into the holster.

All I'm saying is don't be fooled by people saying it can be super tuned to even stock depth of the Garrett, and once you super tune the Garrett with one hand (just slide a piece of metal down the shaft with your thumb with no need to have to tweak sensitivity), you'll be leaving most others way behind in the dust regardless of how expensive they are. Super tuning/adjusting the Centech will get to be a frustrating game of dexterity having to hold down the button, adjust it, then slide the metal down the shaft.

Really am being too hard on the Centech. If you can't afford something better ($127 with free shipping for the Pro Pointer at some sites) for $100 more than the Centech is still going to be useful and better than nothing. I'm pretty cheap myself and that's why I bought one. Couldn't understand why somebody would spend $100 on a pinpointer either, until I used a friend's.
 
>Couldn't understand why somebody would spend $100 on a pinpointer either, until I used a friend's.<

You are so right Critterhunter.
Katz
 
And I agree with both of you. My centech will go about an inch and a half. As far as re-scanning the hole to pinpoint again with my machine, I don't get up. I just hold the machine lower and swing it over the hole again.

Garrett makes great products, please don't get me wrong on that. If you can afford one buy it. If you can't the centech is better than nothing.

I guess as far as pinpointers go, we all forget to take into account our own ground conditions. It is a metal detector just like the big boys and mineralization does affect the performance of pinpointers just as it does with the machines. Perhaps that is why I consistently get 1 1/2 inches with it. I don't have a lot mineralization.
 
Well you guys can keep your Cen-teks. I'll just keep my Garrett............and my friggin Toyota. By gosh if my throttle sticks..............I'll just get to the Tot-Lot "a little" quicker :help:
 
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