CEMETERIES ??

[GOLD&OLDIES]

Well i just noticed it,as far as opening it up again, i did'nt open a damn thing!!! the person or people who started it should never have even put something so distasteful on here to start with!!! and like you said GoGoGopher as long as its here people will see it just like i did and will voice their opinion and that happens to be mine!!! after all this is a forum for people to talk about things that are posted. H.H. Kevin

 

[TABAGO]

Well I'm New Here myself,, but think the topic should stay open, yes every one has a opinion,,,,, me all so
I don't think it's right to hunt in graveyard's , you can not hurt the dead, but you can hurt feeling's of Friends an relatives, an yes they may hurt you to.
you may make them angry by being there, an people do stupid things when they are mad or up set.
as for as the subject, leave it open, you don't have to open it if you don't want to read it, Blogs that don't interest me I don't read, an i think that's OK, it's a free blog
an this is a free country , I'm not trying to step on any toes here, but I hate Censorship as long as no one is hurt

Just MY 2 CENTS WORTH

An LOOK AT THe Number of Views 1.080 the second most on here I think

 

[dougmoore34]

[GRIN] Ya know I am glad its here. Those of us that were fired up enough to post back then on the topic ought to read it again [just to see how Ya feel about it now]. Well my thoughts have not changed, but I am calm about it all. The thread has seen a lot of views and it was a great topic and great question to ask. I would rather see all of us at war on here then see even one of you in a bad situation out there on the street. We are all on the same side and thats what counts in the end.
Doug in OR

 

[WolfdogIa.]

AMEN!!!

 

[Treasure Nut]

I have given it some serious thought due to the history behind a cemetery close to where I live. It would have been an area away from the grave sites, in the corner of the cemetery. But then this story came on the local TV news channel

MDing in a cemetery

Nah, gave up that thought quickly

Best look for other places to detect.

 

[TABAGO]

Very good Treasure Nut That is a super good article ,, I think we have enough places to hunt
cemeteries are off bounds....

 

[treaszures1]

anyone with common sense and half a brain would know not to dig around graves.. my two pennies

 

[EARTHLINGX]

a federal law passed in 1906 prohibits the removal, digging, or looting of any graveyard, grave site, tomb or homestead burial plots and a minimum 5 yrs. in prison as such..... this also includes animal (pet) plots because a family pet is also considered a family member.... if the homestead in question is YOUR families homestead MDing is legal providing that you have paperwork and documents on file, on person or can provide proof of some sort upon request..... if not..... [size=x-large]YOUR SCREWED........[/size]

 

[GRAY GHOST]

n/t

 

[David]

For me it would so disrespectful beeping around graves, an eiry feeling, and someone elses property. Imagine running a coil over a grave, it's very hard. The rectory or residence or chrurch surrounding the graveyard maybe ok with permission. Or like near where I live here where there use to be a school that was tore down and it is future graveyard plots also maybe ok with permission before any graves are put there..

IF you do get permission on a graveyard do not dig too deep if you know what I mean.......

On Clint Eastwood movie "The Good, Bad, and the Ugly". They dug the the wrong grave and hit a skeleton, then again, the right one, the Unknown grave beside Archie Stanton and it had $200,000 in gold in it in about 1863 values...had a gun fight and killed Lee Van Cliff(Bad), Clint(Good) took off with the gold on his horse, and hung
Ely Wallic(Ugly) with his feet on a tombstone, still alive. Clint shot the rope from a distance and I think he left Ely some gold.......What greed will cause people to do for money...that is a good lesson for poor people who what to go crooked to get money and also those wealthy people who cannot stop earning money legally(or being a crook to get it) continuously till they are dead, needing more and more money like a hole in the head....."who ever dies with the most money wins", is what they are playing....

 

[rconderman]

Hi all -

I have a different take on the cemetery thing. Many of my finds have come from detecting cemeteries. But those finds have been dug up ONLY after getting a letter of permission and carrying that letter with me. I usually contact the town supervisor and/or the highway department supervisor. Then, after getting their okay and reassuring them that I will pick up trash, not leave any holes, respect others feelings and not dig more than 10 inches down, I go to the local police to let them know what I am going to do and show them my permission letter. Then, AND ONLY THEN, will I hunt a cemetery. Why cemeteries???? Unlike Joeydogs' take cemeteries were, and still remain, very busy places with a lot more traffic than just funeral goers who stand around for 15 minutes and then leave. In fact, cemeteries were often times a gathering place for picnics, especially on Sundays after church. Mount Hope cemetery in Rochester NY, for example, is one of the first "Victorian" style cemeteries and was designed for just that purpose. People would visit their lost loved ones and enjoy a picnic lunch in effort to celebrate their loved ones and not mourn them for the rest of their lives. As such I submit to anyone that cemeteries are an excellent place to find treasure, especially when you know young kids were running around playing tag and loosing things out of their pockets. I also need to mention that 98% of my finds have not come from digging around a headstone. To the contrary, they invariably come from obscure places like around fence lines and under trees and bushes. If the center row is wide enough I even hunt there so I can try and stay away from the "plot" as much as possible. I would also say that 9 out of 10 people that observe me metal detecting (even near their loved ones) are polite and just a little curious if I have found anything worthwhile. When I show them a large cent or an Indian head penny they are astonished and always express interest in taking up the hobby themselves. It's all about asking and respecting people's wishes. It doesn't hurt to ask because all anyone can do is say no and if they do then I obey their directive and move on. Out of the 50 or so people I have approached for permission only three have said no and I simply don't hunt those places. Even the police will treat you nice if you show a humble attitude and let them know that you understand they call the shots. I have never once been threatened with arrest or given a ticket. On one occasion an officer from a local town where I wanted to hunt said "I can't let you do that". He then went on to explain that they had problems about two years ago with grave robbers that had exhumed a civil war soldiers grave and had taken his medals. He was arrested and since then the towns residents have been very sensitive about the incident. But he also told me had that incident not happened in the recent past he would absolutely allow me to hunt the cemetery as long as I observed certain rules. He then thanked me for being honest and for being polite and courteous. I received a call from his sergeant the next week asking me if I could get him in touch with someone who could sell him a detector for their department and I ended up giving a few of his officers some lessons on how to use the machine. They paid me $200 for my efforts. Finally, if I am approached by an individual and they are taking umbrage to my TH'ing in a cemetery I promptly apologize and leave immediately. To me it's just that simple, you respect everyone feelings right down the line and if someone objects then consider it a done deal and leave. Just some thoughts. And BTW, I hunted an abandoned pioneer cemetery with a friend after getting permission and here's a list of the day's finds from that locale. 1876 IH in VG, 1853 seated dime that looks brand new, 1900 V nickel and a 1917 walking liberty half. Not bad for three hours of work. I sold the IH penny for almost $75 the same day I found it.

Best regards and have fun hunting!!!!!

 

[waltship]

I know of one cemetery that has no tomb stones. If you know it's a cemetery, but nobody else does, is that O.K. This farmer back in the early
"60s", built a pond and threw the stones into the dam. He then used part of the cemetery for a tobacco bed. I didn't find out where he put the tomb stones til I was talkin to one of the guys that used to work for him years later.

 

[ronaldj2]

I have to be in agreement on this, in some states it is illegal, in some cities and towns it is strictly forbidden. You wouldn't want to be arrested and have your metal detectors confiscated. I was a grave digger as a teenager and ocassionally I would find bones or even jewelry. We would dig a small hole within the grave and bury these items. There are some things that are to be sacred, in good conscience I can't see myself detecting over a dead man's bones (knowingly). And also, there are enough people out there who have already formed the opinion, that detectorists are looters, so why add fuel to that fire? In one of my relic areas, up in the woods there is an old cemetery with soldiers and other men who died during Shay's rebellion in revelutionary times. I happen to be detecting that day a stumbled across this little cemetery, now this place is in the boonies and I was the only one around. I went into the cemetery, But and I quote: I left my metal detector in the woods far enough away, so that incase and this would be rare, if someone else should show up, there would be no metal detector associated with my visit. Some of the men who died, were born in the early-mid 1700's, believe me, the temptation is always there. Right or wrong is just a decision away!!

Ron Lefebvre

 

[Old Katz]

Unless the cemetery is very old and in the country side, I would
save myself a lot of grief and stay out. The grounds keppers get more than peeved
when they see some guys out there with metal detectors, and besides cemeteries
are private property. Also be aware that some municpalities have strick laws against MDING
while other have laws on the books but don't enforce them until someone calls in a complaint.
There are lots of places to MD.

Why MD a cemetery? Because people even in grief drop stuff and most MDers don't go there out of respect.

Take time to smell the flowers.
Practice random acts of gradtitude.

 

[GoGoGopher]

I love to hear folks opinions, but it seems this topic just keeps popping up...With all the other places to hunt, it is just common courtesy to stay away from grave sites...I will not hunt on the same block as a cemetery.


HH,

 

[rconderman]

Yeah we have lots of old abandoned cemeteries up here in Western NY, all way back in the woods and completely unmaintained. I have found so many old coins that I have filled a three ring binder with them. Each Page/Sleeve has 20 coins so by my calculations I have a little over 350 19th and early 20th (pre-1930) century coins. I have been TH'ing for a little under two years. Is this considered a good start by you guys?

I use a Minelab Explorer SE with a WOT coil. I recently published two articles in Western and Eastern Treasures magazine. If anyone cares to read them the titles are: Three Sisters and a Cousin from 1853 (January '09) and Canadian Invasion (March '09)

 

[MAJOR1]

GRAVE YARDS HAVE A LITTLE RESPECT,WE BURY OWER LOVED ONES THERE TO REST IN PEACE AN HONER THEM.
WHAT YOU DONT REALIZE FELLA WE ALSO PAID FOR THE PLOT WITCH IS BIGGER THAN THE ACTUAL GRAVE, IF I EVER CAUGHT YOU ON OWER FAMILY LOT THAT'S TRESPASSING, AND I WOULD HAVE YOU ARESTED SO FAST YOUR HEAD WOULD SPIN AND YOU COULD ALSO READ ABOUT YOURSELF IN THE PAPER AN SEE YOUR SELF ON TV THEN WE WOULD SEE HOW MANY FRIENDS YOU HAVE , this has nothing to do with religion

 

[ronaldj2]

While a graveyard may be taken care of by a groundskeeper or an undertaker, the individual plots are owned by people just like you and me. People pay good money for a cemetery plot. I think, and this is only my opinion, that a groundskeeper could get him or herself in trouble with a plot owner by giving out permission. Especially if someone says: Hey," who said you could metal detect over my families plot?" and then the reply goes out, Well the groundskeeper said I could.. You see where there could be a conflict of interest ? I do ! I know that I am probably going to receive a variety of responses, maybe some negative, some positive, oh well !! Thank God we live in a country where everyone is able to express their opinions, this is your right, and should be used in a manner as not to cause harm in a malicious way . Freedom of speech and press are rights.. If this were another country you might not have a forum to write to.

 

[waltship]

We all (almost all) agree, NO CEMETERIES. Can we put this topic to sleep?

 

[ronaldj2]

consider the subject dead and buried!!