I'm getting tired of digging pennies all the time. Most of them I dig up are so pitted and messed up that I throw most of them away. So if I stop digging pennies how many rings could I miss? I have yet to get a real gold or silver ring so I don't know how they will sound on the Ace. I know you have to dig a lot of pull tabs to find some rings but I'm just wondering how many rings chime in on the penny mark. Thanks.
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Can rings show up in the penny section on a Ace 250
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Muddyshoes
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Most large banks, I think will still take in rotted zinc pennies and exchange them for usable coinage. At least the US Mint used to do that.
I've had many days where I just got tired of digging pennies, especially when they're hot and especially when they're deep and half-rotted zinc crappers, so I definitely feel your frustration. As for rings, I've had them sound all over the spectrum depending upon their composition, depth and the angle that they're laying.
- Muddyshoes
I've had many days where I just got tired of digging pennies, especially when they're hot and especially when they're deep and half-rotted zinc crappers, so I definitely feel your frustration. As for rings, I've had them sound all over the spectrum depending upon their composition, depth and the angle that they're laying.
- Muddyshoes
If you disc out pennies, you will also disc out some silver rings. Don't get discouraged. I usually dig over 5,000 pennies a year, but have also been finding over 100 rings a year also. Sorry, there is no easy way of getting silver without the pennies. But keep in mind LOCATION-LOCATION-LOCATION.
In a word yes,some sterling rings will ring up penny, and some med to large gold ones. One of my favorite finds rang up penny, a civil war patriotic token that had a date of 1863 from a constintine mich hardware store, I've only 1 token like that (have other tokens,but not cw) and probably wont see another like it the rest of my life.
I squat by doing knee bends. And they sure do get sore at times.....
The simple answer to your question, "Can rings appear as pennies (specifically zinc cents)?" is...16penny said:
"Yes."
There is little doubt that the zinc cents present some challenges. One thing stands clear on first glance - WHERE you are detecting is a clue as to whether it is likely a zincer or something else. John is right about that. Modern elementary schools will hold more of them than mining camps abandoned 50 years in the past.
Now, something that helps us is the fact that the ACE and all Garretts are accurate, especially inside of 4". If you are fairly certain that other metals are not mixing the signal, and your detector is telling you that the target is,
a. A zinc cent
b. Within 4"
Chances are best that it is right. There is a small chance that it might be something more valuable, but detectors usually get it right on the zinc cent.
This is mostly because few things of significant metallic value fall into this range.
Of course, we would be remiss if we didn't acknowledge that there can be all sorts of variables. Many things can cause a detector to mis-identify a target - and you cannot know if that is happening just by trusting your detector. It can be fooled. If you only look at the name of our hobby, "metal detecting," you have a clue. Your instrument is doing it's job when it signals that it has detected metal. The rest is up to you, as it cannot tell with 100% accuracy that it is a zincer... or something else.
CASE IN POINT: A few years ago I found a huge piece of 18K gold - an entire front dental bridge piece. It's probably worth an @ss of $$$ today. But it ID'd as a common screwcap/low zincer... to my high-dollar detector, it was just more trash.
But, don't be too quick to trounce the common zincer. It still has a virtue or two in it's common base metal.
First, zinc cents are good for one rather important thing: Revaluation Of a Dollar.
Every 8-12 of them you recover - essentially for free - offsets the losses on one dollar due to inflation, etc.
Common copper cents have this virtue, too. But this makes the zinc cent all the more notable. It is made of nothing but junk, and yet it has the same power as the more noble (and increasingly scarce) copper cent to restore a dollar's proper value.
Zincers also offer a great opportunity for healthful exercise. John (Edmonton) has probably developed the strongest thighs in the Northern Territories by recovering those 5,000 cents of his. We might add that he gained that benefit while being paid back $50 by the very coins themselves. Few gyms offer that with your workout.
But the lowly zinc cent gives you one more thing - FREEDOM. How so?
Simple. You do not have to dig them up. You can trust your instrument and the odds, and simply leave them behind. We've all done it, after tiring of the bloody things.
In a world where more and more independence is taken away from us, the zinc cent offers each of us the chance to make our own decision. Specifically, to dig or not.
They do not force us to take them out of the earth. Only we make that choice.
So, yes, rings can look like zinc cents to a detector. Indeed, any one thing can look like anything else. But in particular, small silver pieces, the occasional class ring and likely some pewter items will fall into the same range as zincers. Are they worth recovering, compared against the remote chance that you have found something else?
Only you can decide that. Which may be the best reason of all to dig them up.
Muddyshoes
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I'm liking Dahut's diatribes. As a writer who writes perpetually looooooooooong diatribes myself, it's good to see someone else has that infliction.
Dahut.. You complete me.. [making square sign with my fingers in front of my heart...]
- Muddyshoes.
Dahut.. You complete me.. [making square sign with my fingers in front of my heart...]
- Muddyshoes.
DirtSurgeon
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I think we all get tired of digging them at one point or another. It depends on how long of a hunt I am doing that maks me dig or not dig. I usually set myself a limit / goal of 20 pennies before I start passing them up. I once met a detectorist in one of my local parks and he showed me where he dug up an indian head that I am pretty sure I had passed over. I also met a guy who dug up a 1949 gold class ring while I was there and he said it rang up as a penny and I checked it myself with my ace and sure enough, it rang as a penny. More often than not though, if it says its a penny, its a penny. (Ace 250 and AT Pro user here. )
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I have a question for all you Ace users. On my 250, zinc pennies always read on the space between zinc pennies and copper pennies/dimes, never right on the zinc penny icon. All other coins, including nickles, read right where the machine says they should. It doesn't hurt anything because my reading is consistant, but the reason I want to know is because sometimes I want to tell someone where mens gold rings read and if their zinc pennies read in a different place than my machine, then where I say the mens rings fall might be different also.
Always remember there are no absolutes in this business. There are many variables, even to the individual instrument.old lobo said:
One has to become familiar with theirs.
It is a fact that the items in the ground fall into ranges of conductivity - they are not dimes or rings or nickels to the device. Tell anyone who asks that you recover anything that indicates above foil.
To dig or not is the question....Everyone forgot those nice old sterling religious medalions, 10 dollar gold piece, Yep many larger sterling rings will hit as penny and of course those large college 10 kt. gold rings..
Always remember that day on a beach in NJ where a fellow dug zinc penny and was rewarded with a large gold diamond tennis bracelet worth at least 5-6 times the worth of an ace 250 so your call...and those that investigate find what the other guy misses.....
Always remember that day on a beach in NJ where a fellow dug zinc penny and was rewarded with a large gold diamond tennis bracelet worth at least 5-6 times the worth of an ace 250 so your call...and those that investigate find what the other guy misses.....
norman maassey
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