Can anyone think of a reason not to use Target Trace?

[harryhh]

The title asks the question.

Maybe target trace slows the detection rate a little? Maybe target trace sometimes interferes with being able to determine a good target from a bad?

Harry

 

[Digger]

Can anyone think of a reason not to use Target Trace?
Maybe target trace slows the detection rate a little? Maybe target trace sometimes interferes with being able to determine a good target from a bad?

Harry

Although there are a few places I hunt (open area with very scattered targets) where I don't necessarily need it, I can't think of a reason not to use it. Target Trace is a real time representation, processing mulitple samples per second, that helps to determine a target's ID. I've not witnessed any change in "detection rate", using Target Trace.

As to an interference with determining targets? Quite the contrary. Real time representation in TT allows all targets to be more easily identified, by allowing us to see multiple targets simultaneously. JMHO HH Randy

 

[harryhh]

Thanks Digger. I also haven't found any reason not to use target trace. But since my experience with the ctx is limited, I thought others might have come across situations where it might be best to turn target trace off.

 

[maansman]

Honestly, I really can't figure it out. I just go out and hunt......I guess should read up on it.....

- Mark

 

[harryhh]

As I've stated, my experience is limited, but I've found it useful in telling me when I might have a good item close to iron trash. Where without the Target Trace, you might only see the iron.

 

[starky]

Honestly, I really can't figure it out. I just go out and hunt......I guess should read up on it.....

- Mark

I am in the same boat. I have used my CTX for a complete year now, and honestly have no idea what all of it means. I love this machine, and am actually doing quite well with it, but have never really studied the science of it to fully understand all the options. I read all the posts, but honestly, the majority of the explanations for most subjects are explained brilliantly, however you have to have 7 years at Harvard to understand half of their words they use to explain the features and how it works. I consider myself somewhat smart, more street smart than book smart, but slightly educated, but frankly have no idea what most of you are saying LOL. I learn best by doing, not reading as I think I may have a bit of ADD when it comes to reading for instructional use. I have forced myself to go by the tones, TID and pinpointing to best determine whats under my coil, and as I said have done quite well actually. I appreciate all of the explanations and hard work you have all done to try to teach us guys who don't fully understand it, and even if most times I don't fully understand your scientific breakdown and big words, I do pick up a little here and their and try to use it and test it when out in the fields. So again thank you so much, and please continue explaining as you do, It will all eventually click with me sometime. HH

 

[harryhh]

I'm somewhat in the same boat also starky. While I can read something and learn it, I forget all too fast. Or I go out with the ctx and I find something where I think, 'Wow, that was good. I should do that more often.' I'm afraid I forget those things too.

 

[Digger]

I know you said you read the posts. But in case you missed some of the earlier ones, here are a few that I made when the CTX was being introduced.

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?86,1800453,1802499#msg-1802499

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?86,1800453,1801432#msg-1801432

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?86,1800453,1800933#msg-1800933

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?86,1800453,1801703#msg-1801703

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?86,1697905,1697918#msg-1697918

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?86,1699869,1699869#msg-1699869

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?86,1699869,1700705#msg-1700705

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?86,1699869,1700515#msg-1700515

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?86,1702492,1702492#msg-1702492

 

[harryhh]

I don't read all the posts!! And you go back pretty far with these. I took a quick look at the last one with the four adjacent targets. That is very interesting how they are displayed on the screen with target trace. I really like that. Impressive machine the ctx.

 

[Digger]

Glad they help. But my comment about reading all the posts were in response to starky, who said he had read them all. But again, glad they helped illustrate Target Trace. HH Randy

 

[harryhh]

Well, I probably said somewhere that I read all the posts also. If I did, I was exaggerating.

 

[starky]

Thank you for the quick links Randy.
I too may have exaggerated my statement about reading them all.
I will be going back to those links to see if I possibly missed any of them.
I am slowly getting the hang of some of the things explained, just need this snow to get out of here so I can get out and experiment with the explanations that I do understand.
I will eventually get the full use of this detector, the fun part about this hobby is the travels getting there!! HH

 

[Ferrous Bueller]

I don't use it. It bogs the machine down somewhat. The CTX has some great visual aids, but audio trumps all.

 

[Bell-Two]

I think Target Trace is one of the best features on the CTX. One example recently I was hunting a field that was really loaded with iron as I was sweeping my coil I got just a short high tone amongst all the iron grunts. I was using a mode that was wide open, ferrous-coin in combined tones. Investigating this signal I had to shorten my sweeps to a 2" to 3" motion and I could pick up the tone again and the cursor showed the circular reddish dot and beside it streaks of iron objects that smear, when I isolated the signal the TID gave me an 11-45 and this is what I found. With the tone, the TT and TID I felt confident that there was something good there.

 

[harryhh]

Nice find Bell-Two. And good for Target Trace.

Have you seen this post from Digger where he shows target trace displaying 4 targets?
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?86,1702492,1702492#msg-1702492

 

[JamesBondaka]

Some good info to read above

but basically target trace almost gives you... "xray vision" to a certain depth and the good targets stand out as a red circle.... among the smaller "blips" of not so good things...generally speaking.

 

[harryhh]

A hole bunch of positives for Target Trace except the possibility that it might slow the machine down a little. I wonder if Minelab has ever stepped in and said yes it does slow the machine a little or no it doesn't?

So far, in my own use, I haven't found a reason to turn it off. I thought, last year, that I had seen a post where someone had come across a situation where it was best not to use TT. But, I might not remember correctly.

 

[harryhh]

I guess I should add that if I understand it correctly, all those little dots that target trace shows are detections that the machine is doing whether TT is on or off. So, in that way it shouldn't slow the machine. But, maybe it takes a little more processing time to display those dots.

 

[JamesBondaka]

Yes correct. I suppose anything... doing anything ...would "slow" the detector down but this is basically without any delay.

 

[parkgt]

I don't use it. It bogs the machine down somewhat. The CTX has some great visual aids, but audio trumps all.

What have you seen that convinces you of that. I may not be sensitive to the negative effects you are experiencing.