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Boost question...LTD vs F-75

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Daniel Tn

Active member
Now here's a question for you guys. For those of us already with an F-75 that love them, that don't want to lay down another grand for the same machine with a boost feature and camo paint....is there gonna be an option for sending our units in for an "upgrade"? I mean if the difference is just in a new and faster processor, all the rest of the unit should be the same, right? I had the 5" DD coil and it was great but I didn't really have a use for it and I could care less if the machine is camo or not. If I wanted mine camo I could go buy some of the tape and do it myself ya know.

If that could be done, that would really be great and would save the dealers the high blood pressure caused by a bunch of folks unloading F-75s and T2s on the classifieds and ebay for less than what they sell them for. Come on now guys...think of your dealers :eek:) That seems like a logical thing to do.

BTW...for those in the know. Is the boost mode feature only available in the DISC mode side of things? Reason I ask is for those of us that hunt motion all metal all the time because of bad ground making things read into the iron range. I.E. my videos on YouTube demonstrating this and the ground in Culpeper, VA area. IF the boost mode is only useable in Disc mode, it does me no good.
 
I think a upgrade could be a long shot . If it does happen my guess is it could be a year or two after LTDs come out.
BuckeyeBrad the only pearson i have seen write a review say the boost does work in AM mode. HH Mike
 
Limited time for the holidays is what their ads say for the F-75 LTD and T2 LTD. So "limited time" to me, means they ain't going to be a full time production model that will be available for quite a while. Unless they decide to make it available full time all the time, then they will eventually run out of the LTDs and all that will be left are the ones that change hands online from time to time.

I personally think the upgrade idea is a good one since from the ads, they aren't planning on running them long. They'd still be making money for doing the upgrades, and also selling the new units while they last. The current F-75 folks would be happy for not having to part from their machines for a new one, the first time customers could have the option for now, of the LTD or a normal machine, and the dealers wont have to worry about folks unloading their used machines and flooding the market. First Texas would be reaping the benefit of upgrade money, and new machine money, while keeping dealers happy. It's a win/win situation.
 
Dan I agree as i have a F 75 now but here is the deal Unless i know positively there will be a upgrade some day
If i wait and thy stop the run of new LTDs i will be on the outside looking in .:ranting:
 
You know I'm also a big AM user in Culpeper too as well as around here in my few true relic sites and I can tell you that the boost in AM is suh-weeeeettt!! I hunted with that today seriously and I was amazed!! Actually there are now two boost modes (characteristics) in AM if you flip to AM from either of the boost modes on the disc side. The second (CL or "cache locator") has a slower sat speed (and a slower sweep speed seems to work the best)and is deeper yet than if you use the AM mode coming off the (B)oost (P)rocess (quicker, slightly less depth). So the flexibility factor bar has been officially raised. You will absolutely LOVE this!! And I can't wait to see your videos on this very thing because if I'd have shot one today when I was hunting in this camp I've been pounding lately, most AM users would be saying saying "WHOA!!!" when they saw it. I showed boost mode to a fellow F-75 buddy last night and he was WAY more than pleasantly surprised. I'd had brunch with the guy and his wife earlier that day and I asked him then and there (he'd brought up the LTD first because he'd seen it in his new unmentioned mag) "so how much extra depth would it take for you to buy one of the LTD's and relegate your current 75 to a backup status?" He wouldn't give me a straight answer because he was understandably skeptical but he said IF he could see for himself or if I told him it was worth it, only then would he believe it. (he didn't know then, because he had no clue, that I already had one) Later in the afternoon while we were planting for our club hunt, I took him aside and said "come here, I want to show you something". Then I showed him what the LTD could do and he was immediately all smiles, well after his jaw came back up and then started smiling profusely. I KNOW this sounds like the countless hype we've all heard before, but time will tell and I ain't worried. :twodetecting:
 
Maybe is contains one of those super semi-conductors that can no longer be imported into the United States. When they're gone they're gone. What concerns me about the LTD with boost is
will it work in highly mineralized soil? I bought a White's Vision with TX (transmit) boost and I can't use it.
 
Brad you still owe me a air test and a video wont hurt ether .
Your the only show in town . I don't mean to be a hound but i keep drooling on the keyboard Thanks Mike
 
I've had several of a certain detector that had transmit boost control on it and I can say this isn't like that at all. Take that for what it's worth.
 
it's just that I don't have any non-metallic way to measure at the moment and need to run and acquire same. I'll get to it. Videos? Well, I'd really show my azz on that one, but I do want to at least garner some semblance of ability on that too. We'll see.
 
Thank Brad on the subject of how much more depth to upgrade my machine . I asked others this question.
My thought was when the news first broke was a true 2.5 inches because to achieve this you would have to go up a coil size or two.
It would also cost close to two hundred for a coil and it would be large and heavy.
So to keep stock 11in DD and reach that depth works for me
 
Love my F-75. Found my first breastplate with it, and then found the other at the DIV. Have dug quite a bit with that machine and would hate to part ways with it for sentimental reasons.

But ya see, I just got a TDI a couple months ago. Really starting to learn that machine. It's good in hot dirt. So is the F-75. They are about equal in depth on lead and bullets. No lies to tell ya bout that. F-75 makes it easier to tell non-ferrous items from nails though. Then there's the brass issue. The TDI is killer on brass. Never seen another machine quite like it, and it seriously gets the F-75 by 3-5 inches on button size brass. Got a button buried in my yard at 9" deep. TDI with gain set half way, will sang on that thing. F-75 will barely register an audio tone but no visual ID on the meter. Course it's fresh buried and don't mean a lot because I dug some deep ones at the DIV with the F-75. So an LTD has me interested in seeing if with its extra boost, could match the depth capability of the TDI on button size brass. Like I say, they are already close on lead/bullets. Gaining some on brass is a big thumbs up.

Now two weeks ago I was ready to sell that TDI for a normal F-75. Then I figured something out about it and have started to like it. BUT what if that thing I found is a fluke and I could be doing better at the next DIV with the LTD?!! Heheh. See my delimma? Don't want to sell the F-75 I have because of sentimental reasons. Don't want to sell the TDI either cause I wanna compare it with an LTD.

Darn you First Texas. You could make my life so much easier by offering an upgrade at a reasonable price :)
 
Ahhh, Daniel. The paralysis of analysis. Life gets complicated, at times, doesn't it?

keep on diggin'

jimmyk in Missouri
 
One fiscal Quarter.........Something about they only bought so many of the new processors or Micro- controllers ......I really Doubt the practicality of upgrade ....(A) probably not a drop in replacement CHIP...(B)....pin out could be different (C) chip could have more on board virtual devices and ability to multitask in real time.....(D) business stand point they make more on a clean sell of new Gear ......versus the problems that could arise from to many fingers under the hood.....I made a post about ....I'm not a betting man but I believe these will be collector ITEMS....... you have been Warned .....ever hear the phrase " Get M While their HOT "

Either Way I think SANTTI CLauis IS comin early!!!!

Happy Trails
Jim Pugh
 
jimpugh said:
One fiscal Quarter.........Something about they only bought so many of the new processors or Micro- controllers ......I really Doubt the practicality of upgrade ....(A) probably not a drop in replacement CHIP...(B)....pin out could be different (C) chip could have more on board virtual devices and ability to multitask in real time.....(D) business stand point they make more on a clean sell of new Gear ......versus the problems that could arise from to many fingers under the hood.....I made a post about ....I'm not a betting man but I believe these will be collector ITEMS....... you have been Warned .....ever hear the phrase " Get M While their HOT "

Either Way I think SANTTI CLauis IS comin early!!!!

Happy Trails
Jim Pugh
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And if you were a betting man Jim I think you'd have a good bet!

First of all, every indication seems to be that these detectors have seriously raised the bar for state-of-the-art.

So if users start raving then demand is going to snowball.

And it seems like Fisher is going to be conservative in how many they make so prices could very well go up.

But remember Fisher isn't in the business to create collectors items.

If the demand is there Fisher is going to meet it eventually.

My guess would be in early to mid 2010 with essentially the same detector with some cosmetic changes, any early bugs fixed, and a different name.

Then again I could be totally wrong...:unsure:
 
jimpugh i was not sure at first when you said a Collectors item I thought it was a left handed complement [a wise crack ].

I think your correct.
 
I thihk you are right and they may even add some new programs that will allow the new F75LTD to upgrade
 
Since opinions are next to free, here's mine. I think the "Limited" means no 5" coil included after the holidays. If this beats is as hot as we are led to believe, there will be a line waiting to get there hands on one. But, like Dennis Miller always says "That's just my opinion. I could be wrong".

keep on diggin'

jimmyk in MIssouri
 
Limited Edition may pertain to the color scheme. Why would you make a top of the line detector for 3 months then stop.
 
yeah!..ESPECIALLY if it's sellin'!...money talks!..the rest is just conversation!

(h.h!)
j.t.
 
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