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Best Metal Detector for Finding Gold Jewely Answered

Mkus said:
Charles (Upstate NY) said:
I have dug pounds of gold and silver jewelry on beaches, for beach hunting the machine is only part of the equation, using a top jewelry machine is no guarantee you won't get skunked. That said I'd want a machine that can hit on small bits of jewelry, think small silver crab claw clasp from a chain or bracelet, butterfly silver earring back, tiny bits. I'm looking for the Deus to take it to a new level, hitting on small gold bits my current machine can't touch. Still waiting for my HF coil to arrive so I can run some tests.
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which coil are you getting I guess the elliptical one works better for smaller pieces because it runs a higher frequency than the round 9"
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The 9 inch round coil not the elliptical. The Deus already struggles a bit on wet salt water sand from what I'm reading so the 54kHz of the 9 inch round I'm hoping will work better than the even higher frequency elliptical. Plus I don't want it detecting specs in the gold flakes range, if it detects a gold stud earring I'll jump for joy but don't want to waste a lot of time sifting for tiny specks. All theory at this point, I'm still waiting for my HF coil I got a text and think they are out of stock at the moment.

Also Calabash...he said he was going to test the HF on a gold earring so I rushed to youtube and watched the video...about half way through he says there's the gold earring over there but I'm not going to test it with the HF yet arrgh! Now I'm obsessively checking his youtube channel to see if he posts another video, he's evil!
 
Mkus said:
Charles (Upstate NY) said:
I have dug pounds of gold and silver jewelry on beaches, for beach hunting the machine is only part of the equation, using a top jewelry machine is no guarantee you won't get skunked. That said I'd want a machine that can hit on small bits of jewelry, think small silver crab claw clasp from a chain or bracelet, butterfly silver earring back, tiny bits. I'm looking for the Deus to take it to a new level, hitting on small gold bits my current machine can't touch. Still waiting for my HF coil to arrive so I can run some tests.
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which coil are you getting I guess the elliptical one works better for smaller pieces because it runs a higher frequency than the round 9"
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If I might add all things being equal the elliptical will be more sensitive to small stuff like nuggets and necklaces compared the the equivalent length round DD coil.

I know when I hunt another 18kHz machine with a 10x5 I get a lot of chains. (This spring was 5 chains out of 7 hunts on land, which is remarkable) It's not very deep, but it will slam on everything in that first 4"-5" . For comparison I run the Deus in 18kHz quite often time and rarely see a chain, though I'm using the 11" round mostly so it's not quite a even comparison, other then the 11" is way deeper on the bigger gold.

I am going to get one of the HF coils as well for water hunting. Saltwater is not an issue for me, but small spent ammunition is a real nuisance with my particular scoop, so I have to be careful what I wish for. In the water I have hit a thin gold bracelet with a 10x5 at 18kHz machine as well as numerous earrings and earning backs, but I do like the depth of a round coil farther offshore.

Another motivation is that the 11" has a lot of drag in the water.

So I'm leaning towards the 9" round as a middle ground between depth and sensitivity, however that may change, after all I'm primarily looking for jewellery in the water. When conditions are ideal I don't need much depth, so maybe the elliptical makes more sense.
 
Just my opinion, the machine has to be a good brand but the operator of any machine makes all the differance.
 
BigTony said:
Just my opinion, the machine has to be a good brand but the operator of any machine makes all the differance.
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That's right. The cheapest detector in the hands of a capable detectorist who really knows that detector finds the gold.
 
I am not certain about cheap detectors though.
I feel the machine has to have both a digital and screen displays.
You also need to test different types of rings or chains just like we test for different coins.
 
Any metal detector can find metal.
But we need to place some odds as far as using which model vs what kind of target,,where it is located scenario wise, ground minerals etc.

A Minelab GPX will see most things detectable (except for the smallest gold and deeper).
So a person could take a GPX into an old site and dig, and dig, and dig.
Eventually about everything down to the what 16-19" depths would be gone metal wise.
And a person may find a great find by doing.

Does this make the GPX a great detector for the find that was made, where it was made, etc.
Nope.

Actually a lot of gold jewelry and coins in the USA,,,are still buried.
Why?
Because of copper and silver coinage and junk aluminum.
Detectors that work better for finding them generally don't thrive at gold.

There will always be exceptions to where a great find is found with elcheapo detector.
I don't like to live my life based on exceptions.

Now, for folks who indeed can't afford a more expensive detector,,I don't ridicule or think any less of these folks.
At least they have a chance to detect.
And yes they can make some great finds.
 
squirrel1 said:
Any metal detector can find metal.
But we need to place some odds as far as using which model vs what kind of target,,where it is located scenario wise, ground minerals etc.

A Minelab GPX will see most things detectable (except for the smallest gold and deeper).
So a person could take a GPX into an old site and dig, and dig, and dig.
Eventually about everything down to the what 16-19" depths would be gone metal wise.
And a person may find a great find by doing.

Does this make the GPX a great detector for the find that was made, where it was made, etc.
Nope.

Actually a lot of gold jewelry and coins in the USA,,,are still buried.
Why?
Because of copper and silver coinage and junk aluminum.
Detectors that work better for finding them generally don't thrive at gold.

There will always be exceptions to where a great find is found with elcheapo detector.
I don't like to live my life based on exceptions.

Now, for folks who indeed can't afford a more expensive detector,,I don't ridicule or think any less of these folks.
At least they have a chance to detect.
And yes they can make some great finds.
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Well said.
 
With the Deus and 9 inch HF coil I'll have 3 detectors in my beach jewelry hunting arsenal, Deus, ML Explorer SE Pro (SE Pro 11 inch coil), and ML Excalibur. I plan to use all three.

Excalibur - Summer hunts, for surf of course but also wet sand when I just want to have a relaxing EMI/noise free hunt. The Excalibur is rock solid stable on wet salt water beaches. But its one heavy pig, I may have to remedy that now that its out of warranty.

Explorer SE Pro - Late Fall, Winter, early Spring hunts, cuts and scallops after storms. Deep on gold rings and gold medallions, very good on tiny bits of silver jewelry if shallow which they are after storms, not so great on small gold or chains.

Deus - Summer hunts (in front of lifeguard stands) and fall, winter, spring storm hunts when the storms separate the targets by weight in lines parallel to the water. I typically hunt the heavy target lines with the SE Pro, nickels, quarters, fishing sinkers and don't waste time on the light target lines, dimes, zinc cents, but if the Deus can hit on small gold that will sort with the dimes and zincs I'll give it a go.

So the best machine for jewelry is, multiple machines lol.
 
Charles (Upstate NY) said:
With the Deus and 9 inch HF coil I'll have 3 detectors in my beach jewelry hunting arsenal, Deus, ML Explorer SE Pro (SE Pro 11 inch coil), and ML Excalibur. I plan to use all three.

Excalibur - Summer hunts, for surf of course but also wet sand when I just want to have a relaxing EMI/noise free hunt. The Excalibur is rock solid stable on wet salt water beaches. But its one heavy pig, I may have to remedy that now that its out of warranty.

Explorer SE Pro - Late Fall, Winter, early Spring hunts, cuts and scallops after storms. Deep on gold rings and gold medallions, very good on tiny bits of silver jewelry if shallow which they are after storms, not so great on small gold or chains.

Deus - Summer hunts (in front of lifeguard stands) and fall, winter, spring storm hunts when the storms separate the targets by weight in lines parallel to the water. I typically hunt the heavy target lines with the SE Pro, nickels, quarters, fishing sinkers and don't waste time on the light target lines, dimes, zinc cents, but if the Deus can hit on small gold that will sort with the dimes and zincs I'll give it a go.

So the best machine for jewelry is, multiple machines lol.
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You sound a lot like me. I also use my different machines for different times and tasks.
It is nice to know that the Deus is so many detectors in one.
 
So does the 9" high frequency coil work better on saltwater beaches than the stock 9"?
 
HF coils are supposed to work better in mineralized soil, so in theory on some beaches with mineralized black sand they should work better than the LF coil. I searched high and low but never found a definitive answer to how well or not well the Deus works on salt water beaches. I watched some Deus videos which showed it being noisy but have no idea how they had the machine setup.
 
My wife is on her way back from the NJ shore where she did some testing of all of the Deus coils and yes, the HF coils handle the black sand / salt water notably better.

Will be putting some test results together soon and we found settings are key and in many cases not what you would expect to get optimal performance from

Andy
 
Andy Sabisch said:
My wife is on her way back from the NJ shore where she did some testing of all of the Deus coils and yes, the HF coils handle the black sand / salt water notably better.

Will be putting some test results together soon and we found settings are key and in many cases not what you would expect to get optimal performance from

Andy
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Awesome!! I hunted NJ beaches for years, really looking forward to this info. I hear NJ is adding 1000 feet of pumped in beach replenishment sand all along the shore which blows, bummer.
 
Charles (Upstate NY) said:
HF coils are supposed to work better in mineralized soil, so in theory on some beaches with mineralized black sand they should work better than the LF coil. I searched high and low but never found a definitive answer to how well or not well the Deus works on salt water beaches. I watched some Deus videos which showed it being noisy but have no idea how they had the machine setup.
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We have a ton of black sand after storms the coins can be found laying right on top in the layer of red sand it's crazy!
Walking down a beach by my house that's very old my brother and I were literally picking up coins oldest one I found
That day on top was a 1923 merc! Another guy I know found a buffalo.
My Etrac is fantastic on the beach which I use exclusively on them tried the deus was not to happy using it
 
Andy Sabisch said:
My wife is on her way back from the NJ shore where she did some testing of all of the Deus coils and yes, the HF coils handle the black sand / salt water notably better.

Will be putting some test results together soon and we found settings are key and in many cases not what you would expect to get optimal performance from

Andy
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Great would love to know which HF coil works best on saltwater beaches as I live right near them and in the off season hunt them a lot!
Thanks Andy
 
What would be your choice in such a scenario?
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None of the above. I hunt my gold in the dirt of schools, parks and playgrounds. I'm also no beep-N-dig hunter. Give me a good old DFX to hunt gold in my environment.
 
I don't know anything about a Nokta but found small 14kt gold ring and an 1898 IH at about this depth with the XP last week.
 
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